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16.06.2015 18:07:07

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Deutschland; Beiträge: 10248, Gallery; Registriert: 23.07.2003; Antwort auf: Boyko23

Re: 918 latest news

Boyko23:
So, to expect power updates?

Retroactive blanket power updates for all cars can be ruled out, as power output is "fixed" in Type Approval or Certification data for the model.
Provision would have to be made for retrospectively updating individual cars' official registration data to comply with the relevant local laws.

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16.06.2015 18:32:25

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 13737, Gallery; Registriert: 11.04.2002; Antwort auf: fritz

Re: 918 latest news

fritz:
Boyko23:
So, to expect power updates?

Retroactive blanket power updates for all cars can be ruled out, as power output is "fixed" in Type Approval or Certification data for the model.
Provision would have to be made for retrospectively updating individual cars' official registration data to comply with the relevant local laws.

Interesting! I wasn't aware of this. Does this apply to all countries?

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16.06.2015 18:46:38

Mithras: Expert; Loc: Toronto, Canada , Kanada; Beiträge: 1981, Gallery; Registriert: 16.03.2005; Antwort auf: fritz

Re: 918 latest news

fritz:
Boyko23:
So, to expect power updates?

Retroactive blanket power updates for all cars can be ruled out, as power output is "fixed" in Type Approval or Certification data for the model.
Provision would have to be made for retrospectively updating individual cars' official registration data to comply with the relevant local laws.

God I hate Bureaucracy. Smiley Especially European bureaucracy north of about the 45th parallel. You're just so, good, effective and wildly overzealous about it. Smiley

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16.06.2015 18:48:16

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Deutschland; Beiträge: 10248, Gallery; Registriert: 23.07.2003; Antwort auf: nberry

Re: 918 latest news

nberry:
fritz:
Boyko23:
So, to expect power updates?

Retroactive blanket power updates for all cars can be ruled out, as power output is "fixed" in Type Approval or Certification data for the model.
Provision would have to be made for retrospectively updating individual cars' official registration data to comply with the relevant local laws.

Interesting! I wasn't aware of this. Does this apply to all countries?

It just doesn't really arise, Nick, as no car manufacturer would facilitate a blanket retroactive engine power upgrade.

Individual cars can naturally be tuned to enhance their engine power outputs, and the measures necessary to keep them strictly "street legal" will vary from country to country, depending on the relevant local laws.

Giving car manufacturers a free hand to retrospectively change significant certification-relevant features without "official" sanction in some form would make a mockery of the certification procedures.

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16.06.2015 18:48:34

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Kanada; Beiträge: 16151, Gallery; Registriert: 19.09.2006; Antwort auf: nberry

Re: 918 latest news

nberry:
fritz:
Boyko23:
So, to expect power updates?

Retroactive blanket power updates for all cars can be ruled out, as power output is "fixed" in Type Approval or Certification data for the model.
Provision would have to be made for retrospectively updating individual cars' official registration data to comply with the relevant local laws.

Interesting! I wasn't aware of this. Does this apply to all countries?

Pretty much. When I had my 12C and McLaren released the power update from 600 to 625HP, all the cars that gets it also gets a new certificate saying the car has the update.

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16.06.2015 18:55:05

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Deutschland; Beiträge: 10248, Gallery; Registriert: 23.07.2003; Antwort auf: Mithras

Re: 918 latest news

Mithras:
fritz:
Boyko23:
So, to expect power updates?

Retroactive blanket power updates for all cars can be ruled out, as power output is "fixed" in Type Approval or Certification data for the model.
Provision would have to be made for retrospectively updating individual cars' official registration data to comply with the relevant local laws.

God I hate Bureaucracy. Especially European bureaucracy north of about the 45th parallel. You're just so, good, effective and wildly overzealous about it.

If the "you" was aimed at me, I'm not overzealous about it as I don't have a dog in the race anyway. Smiley
I'm just telling it the way it is for those who may be interested.
That it really is that way is confirmed by Whoopsy's post on his experiences with his McLaren, which was in itself a pretty unique state of affairs, and one most car manufacturers would try to avoid like the plague.

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16.06.2015 19:05:50

Mithras: Expert; Loc: Toronto, Canada , Kanada; Beiträge: 1981, Gallery; Registriert: 16.03.2005; Antwort auf: fritz

Re: 918 latest news

fritz:
Mithras:
fritz:
Boyko23:
So, to expect power updates?

Retroactive blanket power updates for all cars can be ruled out, as power output is "fixed" in Type Approval or Certification data for the model.
Provision would have to be made for retrospectively updating individual cars' official registration data to comply with the relevant local laws.

God I hate Bureaucracy. Especially European bureaucracy north of about the 45th parallel. You're just so, good, effective and wildly overzealous about it.

If the "you" was aimed at me, I'm not overzealous about it as I don't have a dog in the race anyway.
I'm just telling it the way it is for those who may be interested.
That it really is that way is confirmed by Whoopsy's post on his experiences with his McLaren, which was in itself a pretty unique state of affairs, and one most car manufacturers would try to avoid like the plague.

No, absolutely not aimed at you. Just a broad brush stroke, I should have used "They're". I know you (as is fritz) have no hand in it.

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16.06.2015 19:20:13

Ziggy: Expert; Loc:; Beiträge: 1600, Gallery; Registriert: 27.07.2004; Antwort auf: Mithras

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Whoopsy, you should update your avatar to the one you have been using since you took delivery of your car, it looks much better imo.

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16.06.2015 19:59:24

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Schweiz; Beiträge: 11655, Gallery; Registriert: 29.04.2005; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

Re: 918 latest news

Whoopsy:
Gnil:
Maybe he can tell us the whole story again

Here is a condensed version.

-Paid deposit and revealed the shocker here.

-Start waiting

-More waiting

-Still waiting

-Delayed

-More delays

-Delayed again

-Paid a visit to the factory to see my car getting built

-More waiting

-More delays

-Finally here.

-Getting my mind blown away.

-More recalls

-Car in pieces, multiple times

-Drive it and getting my mind blown away again

-Still astonished by the car's performance

Smiley Smiley

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16.06.2015 22:17:11

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 13737, Gallery; Registriert: 11.04.2002; Antwort auf: fritz

Re: 918 latest news

fritz:
nberry:
fritz:
Boyko23:
So, to expect power updates?

Retroactive blanket power updates for all cars can be ruled out, as power output is "fixed" in Type Approval or Certification data for the model.
Provision would have to be made for retrospectively updating individual cars' official registration data to comply with the relevant local laws.

Interesting! I wasn't aware of this. Does this apply to all countries?

It just doesn't really arise, Nick, as no car manufacturer would facilitate a blanket retroactive engine power upgrade.

Individual cars can naturally be tuned to enhance their engine power outputs, and the measures necessary to keep them strictly "street legal" will vary from country to country, depending on the relevant local laws.

Giving car manufacturers a free hand to retrospectively change significant certification-relevant features without "official" sanction in some form would make a mockery of the certification procedures.

I was thinking of the McLaren which Nick just confirmed required a new certification. Good stuff! Smiley

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19.06.2015 08:53:44

Boyko23: Veteran; Loc: Sofia , Bulgarien; Beiträge: 1116, Gallery; Registriert: 27.03.2004; Antwort auf: nberry

Re: 918 latest news

Porsche just announced, that 918's production has been ended.

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19.06.2015 09:46:58

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Deutschland; Beiträge: 59606, Gallery; Registriert: 26.03.2002; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

Re: 918 latest news

Whoopsy:
KresoF1:
Whoopsy:
At the beginning of the 918 program, all the test prototypes were supposed to be crushed in the end, but seems like they have changed their mind, they will be using them to test on going enhancement for the production car.

I heard the same thing.

Nick, I am glad that your car is running healthy.

THEY were glad my car is running healthy too, I am one of the most vocal owner they have.

Smiley Smiley

Well, if Porsche would give me one of those pre-production cars to drive it on a daily basis and give feedback, I would be a very vocal person too. Smiley

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19.06.2015 14:17:13

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Kanada; Beiträge: 16151, Gallery; Registriert: 19.09.2006; Antwort auf: Boyko23

Re: 918 latest news

Boyko23:
Porsche just announced, that 918's production has been ended.

Engine line was shut down 5 days ago. Porsche announced the production has ended yesterday but not exactly true. They meant there will be no more 918s entering the production floor.

My friend JUST finished his factory tour literally 2 hrs ago. 14 cars left on the floor, one at each station. So actual END of production where the cars will leave the production line is next Wednesday. Then another week or so to validate the last car. IF nothing goes wrong the last of the 918s will leave the factory before Aug 1st. The cars on the floor right now are all custom once offs, including the ugliest one ever, McDonald's colour scheme. Speed Yellow with full red interior and even red badging. Smiley

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19.06.2015 14:18:34

bridggar: Veteran; Loc: UK , Vereinigtes Königreich; Beiträge: 1223, Gallery; Registriert: 25.05.2007; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

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Money can't buy.......baa daab baa baa baaa!!!!

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19.06.2015 14:25:27

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Beiträge: 3344, Gallery; Registriert: 11.05.2004; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

Re: 918 latest news

Whoopsy:
Boyko23:
Porsche just announced, that 918's production has been ended.

Engine line was shut down 5 days ago. Porsche announced the production has ended yesterday but not exactly true. They meant there will be no more 918s entering the production floor.

My friend JUST finished his factory tour literally 2 hrs ago. 14 cars left on the floor, one at each station. So actual END of production where the cars will leave the production line is next Wednesday. Then another week or so to validate the last car. IF nothing goes wrong the last of the 918s will leave the factory before Aug 1st. The cars on the floor right now are all custom once offs, including the ugliest one ever, McDonald's colour scheme. Speed Yellow with full red interior and even red badging.

Probably a McDonald's franchisee? Lol

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20.06.2015 18:05:04

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Deutschland; Beiträge: 10248, Gallery; Registriert: 23.07.2003; Antwort auf: WAY

Re: 918 latest news

http://driving.ca/porsche/918-spyder/auto-news/news/porsche-builds-its-final-918-spyder-supercar

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20.06.2015 18:09:32

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Deutschland; Beiträge: 9448, Gallery; Registriert: 08.04.2002; Antwort auf: fritz

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great article Fritz - thanks!

The asking price for a 918 on the used marketis now double the original list price.

you should have had the gods to get one! mail

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22.06.2015 13:38:15

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 9870, Gallery; Registriert: 15.11.2005; Antwort auf: Lars997

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Key word: asking price...

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22.06.2015 13:58:43

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Kanada; Beiträge: 16151, Gallery; Registriert: 19.09.2006; Antwort auf: SciFrog

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The last few cars that changed hands were at 1.2-1.4mil US, and 1.5mil CAD.

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22.06.2015 23:28:09

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Kanada; Beiträge: 16151, Gallery; Registriert: 19.09.2006; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

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Went back to my dealer to pick up my car, saw this Birch Green Turbo Cab getting PDI-ed

Looks really really close to Acid Green, and it is the colour Porsche painted the few 918s with and passed off as Acid Green I believe. Only difference between the 2 colour is that the Acid Green has more 'pop', fluorescence-wise.

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22.06.2015 23:54:27

Wonderbar: Rennteam Pro; Loc: usa , Frankreich; Beiträge: 2735, Gallery; Registriert: 31.10.2005; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

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Gotta love individuality.

I remember riding with Hurley Haywood years ago in his personal baby blue Turbo. Each to his own….

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23.06.2015 00:07:37

JoeRockhead: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Topside , Monaco; Beiträge: 8033, Gallery; Registriert: 17.09.2007; Antwort auf: Wonderbar

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I think that would be a great colour on the GT3 RS. I have seen some older TTs that have really bizarre colour combos before though.

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23.06.2015 00:10:37

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Kanada; Beiträge: 16151, Gallery; Registriert: 19.09.2006; Antwort auf: JoeRockhead

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This one has black interior with yellow stitching and yellow seat belts and FULL yellow gauges.

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23.06.2015 00:22:23

bobr: Veteran; Loc: New York , Vereinigte Staaten von Amerika; Beiträge: 945, Gallery; Registriert: 03.12.2003; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

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Won't have any problems finding that Turbo Cab in a parking lot.

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23.06.2015 00:25:32

JoeRockhead: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Topside , Monaco; Beiträge: 8033, Gallery; Registriert: 17.09.2007; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

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Whoopsy:
This one has black interior with yellow stitching and yellow seat belts and FULL yellow gauges.

Yellow callipers too? I know a guy who buys all of his Ferrari's black, with all yellow accents. They look great.

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23.06.2015 02:50:25

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Kanada; Beiträge: 16151, Gallery; Registriert: 19.09.2006; Antwort auf: JoeRockhead

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You mean like this?

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23.06.2015 03:13:13

JoeRockhead: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Topside , Monaco; Beiträge: 8033, Gallery; Registriert: 17.09.2007; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

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Yeah. Something about the shields tying together the rest of the car with the yellow and black. It all fits. The only car it didn't look good on was the CS for some reason.

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23.06.2015 03:18:42

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Kanada; Beiträge: 16151, Gallery; Registriert: 19.09.2006; Antwort auf: JoeRockhead

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I only wish Ferrari will let me paint the key yellow. It's the only red in my car when i am driving. I even have yellow techs in both.

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23.06.2015 11:38:48

neunelf: Senior; Loc: Switzerland; Beiträge: 610, Gallery; Registriert: 04.11.2003; Antwort auf: Whoopsy

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Walter Röhrl crashed a 918

http://www.worldcarfans.com/115062395665/walter-rohrl-crashes-porsche-918-spyder-weissach-video

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23.06.2015 12:24:17

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Deutschland; Beiträge: 12682, Gallery; Registriert: 11.04.2002; Antwort auf: neunelf

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neunelf:
Walter Röhrl crashed a 918

http://www.worldcarfans.com/115062395665/walter-rohrl-crashes-porsche-918-spyder-weissach-video

For a rather long time it looked as if Walter Röhrl could keep the car on the tarmac, too bad he touched the barrier in the end. Smiley

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