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It is still possible that with the next generation (not facelift), the R8 could be canned and instead, the "960" pops up. The new Porsche sportscar platform, the one which was supposed to be used for the current R8 as well but didn't make it because Huracan development was already too far, will be the universal Porsche sportscar platform for the next 911 and is also "fitting" a mid engine, so it would make sense to use it.
For me, a 960 would make more sense than a R8 but I may be wrong.
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All cars make sense since they'll all just share technology. Lamborghini, Audi, and Porsche can all have success exotic cars if it's all group technology. There is more than enough wealth in the world to accommodate healthy sales for all of them, especially if they have different price points.
$200K R8, $250K 960, $300K Lamborghini. Works fine.
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noone1:All cars make sense since they'll all just share technology. Lamborghini, Audi, and Porsche can all have success exotic cars if it's all group technology. There is more than enough wealth in the world to accommodate healthy sales for all of them, especially if they have different price points.
$200K R8, $250K 960, $300K Lamborghini. Works fine.
The Huracan and the R8 are quite close, price-wise, in Germany. It works because the Huracan is an exotic, the R8 is socially more acceptable and lacks the reputation of the Lambo. I do not see the R8 next to a 960 though, especially if they are performance-wise close to each other, even if they have a different price tag.
I love my R8 but I do not see what this car has to do with Audi and their "bread and butter" products.
Compared to the M Gmbh and even AMG products, I think the Quattro GmbH is having a more exotic approach, probably resulting in the only true German super sportscar, the R8. Yes, the 911 Turbo S is a super sportscar as well but it is not using your typical sports car design. The 918 is of course in the same category (more hypercar than super sportscar) but since Porsche doesn't produce it anymore, the R8 is the only one left.
Sorry but I really think that Audi needs to give up the R8, for the sake of Porsche. It would be funny for Porsche to develop the next R8 but not be "permitted" to offer a car in the same class of their own. Doesn't make sense to me.
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RC:Sorry but I really think that Audi needs to give up the R8, for the sake of Porsche.
Nah, you only say that because you want to posess one of the last R8. 
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Rossi:RC:Sorry but I really think that Audi needs to give up the R8, for the sake of Porsche.
Nah, you only say that because you want to posess one of the last R8.
Is it the last R8?! The last NA R8? The last one with 3.7 bar tire pressure?
I don't think Audi could or should give up the R8 as long as Porsche is building a 911 Turbo (S). The price, performance, usability and target buyers seem too similar.
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bluelines:Rossi:RC:Sorry but I really think that Audi needs to give up the R8, for the sake of Porsche.
Nah, you only say that because you want to posess one of the last R8.Is it the last R8?! The last NA R8? The last one with 3.7 bar tire pressure?
I don't think Audi could or should give up the R8 as long as Porsche is building a 911 Turbo (S). The price, performance, usability and target buyers seem too similar.
I think so as well. If money can be made, they will do it.
The only thing I can think of why to get a car now is this NA-topic. For those, who prefer NA over turbo, time is running out. Used 458/Spider, 458 Speciale (difficult)/Speciale A (impossible), R8/Spyder, Huracan/Spyder/Superleggera are the cars to get. Only the last five can be bought new. Of course it all depends on what comes next, especially in case of Lamborghini and Audi, now that Ferrari has chosen the turbo-route.
But perhaps we will see NA plus electric in the future, but I guess the time of many cylinders unfortunately will come to an end. 
And if I had to choose between a NA-V12 and a biturbo-V8, respectively a NA-V8 or V10 and a biturbo-V6 I would always choose the first.
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