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Jul 22, 2015 1:58:01 AM

vantagesc: Pilot; Loc: U.S. , United States; Posts: 486, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 26, 2010; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: 991.2 and future models

CGX car nut:
Impatiently waiting for more information and pleasantly surprised, and pleased, to see a manual in one of the photographs. I guess the new AM N430 might not get as much use as I had first thought.

Can you provide some impressions of your N430 in general or compared to a 911? Intriguing car for a reasonable price.

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Jul 22, 2015 3:51:36 AM

Paulo_Rangel_Melo: Expert; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 1528, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2003; Reply to: vantagesc

Re: 991.2 and future models

Guys! There´s one thing called "EVOLUTION"

Most (or some) guys here in the forum ("i think") we´re air cooled fans....but...they adapted!

And "we" will always adapt to new things!!!

This car (the 991 facelift) is going to be another that "we" are going to adapt!!! and we are going to "Love It"!!!

Regards from Azores, Portugal!!!

Woshhhhhhhhh (Last time i said "woshhh" was about 5 or more years) LOVED IT!!!!!

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Jul 22, 2015 3:58:55 AM

Paulo_Rangel_Melo: Expert; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 1528, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2003; Reply to: Paulo_Rangel_Melo

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This is offtopic!!! (Sorry, forum has changed a litle bit and i dont know how to move this post) Havent posted here for a long time! !!! Does ""my good old Ferrari friend "Nberry"" still sitck arround here??? Regards from Azores, Portugal. Woshhhhhhhh.

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Jul 22, 2015 4:04:04 AM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: Paulo_Rangel_Melo

Re: 991.2 and future models

Paulo_Rangel_Melo:
This is offtopic!!! (Sorry, forum has changed a litle bit and i dont know how to move this post) Havent posted here for a long time! !!! Does ""my good old Ferrari friend "Nberry"" still sitck arround here??? Regards from Azores, Portugal. Woshhhhhhhh.

He sure is, but he is no longer that much into Ferrari. He joined the dark side Smiley

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Jul 22, 2015 4:06:36 AM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5173, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: vantagesc

Re: 991.2 and future models

vantagesc:
CGX car nut:
Impatiently waiting for more information and pleasantly surprised, and pleased, to see a manual in one of the photographs. I guess the new AM N430 might not get as much use as I had first thought.

Can you provide some impressions of your N430 in general or compared to a 911? Intriguing car for a reasonable price.

Dynamically, the N430 feels different as the driver sits far back, almost on top of the rear axle; therefore, turn-in seems a bit more laggy or delayed. The damping is compliant and well-controlled but the 911 feels more connected. All is forgotten by the exhaust noise.

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Jul 22, 2015 4:32:10 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: Wonderbar

Re: 991.2 and future models

Wonderbar:
Reginos, I don't see this button on the car in the AutoBild photos. Is it with SC option?

It was on the PDK car but not in the picture of the manual.

It could be a PDK-only option or standard on the S model or..... Smiley

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Jul 22, 2015 5:04:40 AM

Paulo_Rangel_Melo: Expert; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 1528, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2003; Reply to: bluelines

Re: 991.2 and future models

bluelines:
Paulo_Rangel_Melo:
This is offtopic!!! (Sorry, forum has changed a litle bit and i dont know how to move this post) Havent posted here for a long time! !!! Does ""my good old Ferrari friend "Nberry"" still sitck arround here??? Regards from Azores, Portugal. Woshhhhhhhh.

He sure is, but he is no longer that much into Ferrari. He joined the dark side

Reallly??? I guess Hell did come to San Diego!!! :P Good to be back after 5/6 years!!! Regards from Azores, Portugal!!!

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Jul 22, 2015 5:54:04 AM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8054, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: Paulo_Rangel_Melo

Re: 991.2 and future models

Paulo_Rangel_Melo:
Guys! There´s one thing called "EVOLUTION"

Most (or some) guys here in the forum ("i think") we´re air cooled fans....but...they adapted!

And "we" will always adapt to new things!!!

This car (the 991 facelift) is going to be another that "we" are going to adapt!!! and we are going to "Love It"!!!

Regards from Azores, Portugal!!!

Woshhhhhhhhh (Last time i said "woshhh" was about 5 or more years) LOVED IT!!!!!

Ha Paulo! Welcome back mate, it's good to see you again! Hope all is well on the beautiful Azores?

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Jul 22, 2015 7:48:35 AM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14167, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: reginos

Re: 991.2 and future models

reginos:

Prices, please?

Are you planing a replacement ? Smiley

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Jul 22, 2015 8:28:56 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: Gnil

Re: 991.2 and future models

AMS article...

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/fahrberichte/porsche-911-facelift-iaa-2015-carrera-mit-turbomotor-9826781.html

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Jul 22, 2015 9:06:57 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: Gnil

Re: 991.2 and future models

Gnil:
reginos:

Prices, please?

Are you planing a replacement ?

I am always planning Smiley

However, for the usage I have for the 911 and the time I can spend driving it, the 991, although improved compared to the 997.2 in certain areas, wasn't worth the extra money taking into account my own priorities.

The 991.2? We'll have to see it.

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Jul 22, 2015 9:13:55 AM

Paulo_Rangel_Melo: Expert; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 1528, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2003; Reply to: Gnil

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Thanks Man! I Good to see you too!!! Apreciate that !!! Azores is better than ever!!! Low Cost (after 20 plus years) are flying here finally and tourism is up 20 plus %!!! and we still mantain Mother Nature...also...we´re seeing more Porsche´s than ever here in Azores!!! :)

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Jul 22, 2015 9:57:54 AM

Roy J.: Newbie; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 14, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2013; Reply to: reginos

Re: 991.2 and future models

reginos:

What is it?? Smiley

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Jul 22, 2015 10:06:27 AM

Gauss: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Luxembourg , Luxembourg; Posts: 5821, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 3, 2003; Reply to: Roy J.

Re: 991.2 and future models

It's a sports response button. There are 4 settings that adjust the throttle response for a sportier behavior.

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Jul 22, 2015 10:07:51 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: Gauss

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0=normal

S=sport

S+ sport plus

I any ideas?

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Jul 22, 2015 10:12:13 AM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: reginos

Re: 991.2 and future models

Ice? For Camp 4. 😂

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Jul 22, 2015 10:19:04 AM

ALDO: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany, Black Forrest , Germany; Posts: 3072, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2003; Reply to: WAY

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I for Internet controlled throttle and car response. It is part of car connect and new porsche social media sports driving community. There is a realtime tool where all community members can have direct access to your car. Rennteam is also preparing a true two-way connect to this portal. So we could have access also thru Rennteam. All members can change the settings and a algorithm based on fuzzy logic will then update your car settings including throttle response, exhaust sound, music you can hear, braking power and the overall power output of your car. It is a pretty cool thing.

But before the lunch of the portal you can use this button for individual settings.

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Jul 22, 2015 10:21:44 AM

WAY: Rennteam Master; Loc: Melbourne, Australia; Posts: 3344, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: ALDO

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I vote we put Justin Beaver music for RC.

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Jul 22, 2015 10:28:08 AM

Gauss: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Luxembourg , Luxembourg; Posts: 5821, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 3, 2003; Reply to: reginos

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Individual

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Jul 22, 2015 10:30:06 AM

ALDO: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany, Black Forrest , Germany; Posts: 3072, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2003; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: 991.2 and future models

KresoF1:
Grant:
Aha - so, you'll only keep GTS for a few months? Do you have to pay VAT twice?

No, car will go to my business partner here in early 2016 when I get 991.2

He wants 991.2 GTS but, he is not willing to pay price of new one. Therefor I ordered the car in his desired color and low specs (I just added -20mm). I will drive it until 991.2 arrives. It will be also a good thing to compare both generations directly.

In Croatia you can buy the car for your business but if driving privately you (your company) can not collect the VAT back. So it is the same if you would buy it as a private person.

When selling a used car, you or the buyer have to pay 5% special tax. So you have to be a Greek to buy a car just for a few month Smiley or you love your country so much

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Jul 22, 2015 10:34:43 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: Gauss

Re: 991.2 and future models

Gauss:
Individual

Throttle, PDK, PASM, PSM, ABS. Any other new parameters?

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Jul 22, 2015 10:35:59 AM

Boyko23: Veteran; Loc: Sofia , Bulgaria; Posts: 1116, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 27, 2004; Reply to: reginos

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When the official unveil is expected?

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Jul 22, 2015 10:46:58 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: ALDO

Re: 991.2 and future models

ALDO:
KresoF1:
Grant:
Aha - so, you'll only keep GTS for a few months? Do you have to pay VAT twice?

No, car will go to my business partner here in early 2016 when I get 991.2

He wants 991.2 GTS but, he is not willing to pay price of new one. Therefor I ordered the car in his desired color and low specs (I just added -20mm). I will drive it until 991.2 arrives. It will be also a good thing to compare both generations directly.

In Croatia you can buy the car for your business but if driving privately you (your company) can not collect the VAT back. So it is the same if you would buy it as a private person.

When selling a used car, you or the buyer have to pay 5% special tax. So you have to be a Greek to buy a car just for a few month or you love your country so much

What you wrote is correct to some extent. I am working and living here long enough to know what is possible and what is legally acceptable. Car will be registrated on company where my partner and I share ownership (it is so called "closed" d.d.). I will use the car for about 6 months and then he will use the car. Simple as that. My bookkeeper knows her stuff pretty well since she worked for over 15 years in Ministry of Finance. All is about carefull planning and working by the law (you needto know local laws and their interpretation by local authorities).

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Jul 22, 2015 10:57:01 AM

ALDO: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany, Black Forrest , Germany; Posts: 3072, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2003; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: 991.2 and future models

KresoF1:
ALDO:
KresoF1:
Grant:
Aha - so, you'll only keep GTS for a few months? Do you have to pay VAT twice?

No, car will go to my business partner here in early 2016 when I get 991.2

He wants 991.2 GTS but, he is not willing to pay price of new one. Therefor I ordered the car in his desired color and low specs (I just added -20mm). I will drive it until 991.2 arrives. It will be also a good thing to compare both generations directly.

In Croatia you can buy the car for your business but if driving privately you (your company) can not collect the VAT back. So it is the same if you would buy it as a private person.

When selling a used car, you or the buyer have to pay 5% special tax. So you have to be a Greek to buy a car just for a few month or you love your country so much

What you wrote is correct to some extent. I am working and living here long enough to know what is possible and what is legally acceptable. Car will be registrated on company where my partner and I share ownership (it is so called "closed" d.d.). I will use the car for about 6 months and then he will use the car. Simple as that. My bookkeeper knows her stuff pretty well since she worked for over 15 years in Ministry of Finance. All is about carefull planning and working by the law (you needto know local laws and their interpretation by local authorities).

You can turn it 100 times, PDV (VAT) has to be paid and "Porez na promet" also. You know well what I mean Smiley

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Jul 22, 2015 11:05:00 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: ALDO

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PDV(VAT) will be payed. Croatia is despite its shortcomings and some problems a country where most citizens and companies are paying their taxes. Other thing is how good are some of the tax laws. Some like Fiscalization Law http://www.fiscalization.hr/en/questions-and-answers are excellent. Imagine similar law in Greece...

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Jul 22, 2015 11:08:31 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: reginos

Re: 991.2 and future models

reginos:
0=normal

S=sport

S+ sport plus

I any ideas?

Porsche SRB

O = Original

S = Sport

S+ = Sport Plus

I = Individual (you can adjust this setting in the new PCM system)

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Jul 22, 2015 12:02:24 PM

ALDO: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany, Black Forrest , Germany; Posts: 3072, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: 991.2 and future models

RC:
reginos:
0=normal

S=sport

S+ sport plus

I any ideas?

Porsche SRB

O = Original

S = Sport

S+ = Sport Plus

I = Individual (you can adjust this setting in the new PCM system)

Christian, you are a true German! No space left of a joke Smiley

The same answer would have give us Schäuble Smiley

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Jul 22, 2015 12:42:55 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5173, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: ALDO

Re: 991.2 and future models

Audi now being said to introduce an electric turbocharger on the new S4 at Frankfurt. http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1026341_new-audi-s4-headed-to-frankfurt-auto-show-with-electrically-aided-turbo-report

Could Porsche have a similar set-up, based on a few postings above, for the 991.2?

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Jul 22, 2015 1:08:33 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: CGX car nut

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Technically, such a setup cannot be called a turbocharger since it is not driven by exhaust gas. It is a electric supercharger.

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Jul 22, 2015 1:12:29 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12585, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Whoopsy:
Technically, such a setup cannot be called a turbocharger since it is not driven by exhaust gas. It is a electric supercharger.

Unless there is a combination of regular and electric turbos - then it's dual-charged?

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