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    05.06.2014 18:54:03

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    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    bluelines:
    987er:

    I kinda find myself opening this thread time and time again, coz I thought it was all about 991 spyshots and related news and such. But lately it's more like general talk about some Porsche managers and Cayennes...?

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    05.06.2014 19:06:31

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    I see.  One for all and all for one...

    05.06.2014 19:21:00

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Any idea if the 991.2 gets an updated PCM like the 997.2 over the 997.1? 

    05.06.2014 19:25:43

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    What exactly about the PCM do you think is in need of an update?  Any suggestions/ideas?

    05.06.2014 19:40:01

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Well, I don't expect changes of the screen size but maybe improved hardware and graphic design.

    the 997.2 the PCM made a huge step with the introduction of a touchscreen. 

    05.06.2014 20:40:55

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    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Carlos from Spain:
    bluelines:
    987er:

    I kinda find myself opening this thread time and time again, coz I thought it was all about 991 spyshots and related news and such. But lately it's more like general talk about some Porsche managers and Cayennes...?

    yes

    This is what makes Rennteam unique. A spectrum of unrelated topics in the same thread. See it positively, you pick up all info without having to switch thread... Smiley

    x10! Smiley

    All the advantages of a mailing list combined with those of a forum. 

    06.06.2014 08:08:46

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    987er:

    What exactly about the PCM do you think is in need of an update?  Any suggestions/ideas?

    Display size, touch sensibility, anti-shake touch correction (not even sure this exists yet), resolution, speed, functionality incl. features. I could continue. Smiley


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    06.06.2014 09:20:00

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    RC:
    987er:

    What exactly about the PCM do you think is in need of an update?  Any suggestions/ideas?

    Display size, touch sensibility, anti-shake touch correction (not even sure this exists yet), resolution, speed, functionality incl. features. I could continue. Smiley

    What about a completely new system?? PCM is rubbish compared to what other, "cheaper" brands in the VAG group offer. Even the Golf 7 has a much better infotainment system than Porsche. PCM is a big disappointment when you're usd to Audi's MMI or BMW's iDrive for example.


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    06.06.2014 10:22:02

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    I like that Porsche went the touchscreen way, it's really intuitive. When you look at the 918 you probably see how they want to implement the PCM in the middle console. Or take the Panamera Sportturismo as a hint of the future. I just can't imagine that they introduce a new PCM system like in the 918 with the 991 facelift. 

    06.06.2014 10:44:25

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    I'm not sure whether touch is the way to go.
    Touch screens are difficult to use when driving, since you want to keep your eyes on the road. Without the feel of hardware buttons, I find that difficult to do.
    Would be interesting to hear feedback about that from Tesla Model S and 918 customers.


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    06.06.2014 11:11:48

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Joost:

    I'm not sure whether touch is the way to go.
    Touch screens are difficult to use when driving, since you want to keep your eyes on the road. Without the feel of hardware buttons, I find that difficult to do.
    Would be interesting to hear feedback about that from Tesla Model S and 918 customers.

    That's the main reason why I like MMI so much. (and iDrive as well). Especially now with the touch sensible controller where you can use gestures for input in the navi. Works flawless and Google maps navi is perfectly intergrated.

    IMO it's a shame that such a nice system is on the VAG shelfs, yet it's not used for their high-end brands like Porsche, Lamborghini and Bentley.


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    06.06.2014 11:17:38

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Touch operated systems in cars are a problem because neither the display itself nor the touch sensitivity adapt to the car actually moving. I know that you shouldn't use the PCM while driving but what about the co-passenger? Same issues here. Some sort of anti-shake feature would be great.

    Not a fan of the BMW type navigation systems with i-something. I don't like them, this is old school, like using a mouse.


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    06.06.2014 11:29:02

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    The 918 has two screens, what do you thing about this solution? IMO a head-up display would be a nice upgrade for Porsche.

    06.06.2014 11:36:25

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    RS 991:

    The 918 has two screens, what do you thing about this solution? IMO a head-up display would be a nice upgrade for Porsche.

    I don't like head-up displays, never did. They distract from driving.


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    08.06.2014 00:02:43

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    I'm not quite sure, but I think we didn't discuse if the 991.2 could get any sort of PAA (porsche active aerodynamics). I find this topic very interesting and I'm wondering what will come next. Other manufactures like Ferrari try to keep a clean design without any spoilers. Which way do you like best? 

    I was quite amazed when Porsche introduced the 4-stage rearspoiler on the Panamera Turbo, but I haven't heard any facts which say how much downforce it really produces. Any informations? I hope they make something more of that if it's worth it. They could use such a 4-stage spoiler for other models as well.

    next: a possible air brake, I would like to see such a solution, it's fascinating. They could use the whole rearspoiler or just some integrated moveable parts in it, and combine it with an moveable frontspoiler.

    what do you guys think about the whole active aerodynamics topic? Maybe even some technical hints?

    cheers

     

    09.06.2014 17:56:17

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

     

     

    09.06.2014 19:29:33

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Unblelivable how Porsche can think that the sound that car makes is acceptable... sounds worse than a 3 series sedan 


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    09.06.2014 20:42:17

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Which sound ? There is no more sound at all !! Probably already respecting  the future 2016 noise restriction.surprise

    The car seems to be able to cope very well at it's limits .


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    09.06.2014 20:46:45

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Car looks much more lively than the new Audi R8, albeit that video shows the Audi out in the rain.  

    16.06.2014 11:38:26

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Could this be it? I think so from looking at the spy shots.

     

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    16.06.2014 11:55:21

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Yes, this is 991 GT3 RS. 1/43 or 1/18 model car...

    16.06.2014 11:58:29

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Ehmmm....

    GREAT!

    But....

    Where are the decals and the front splitters?

    Different rear bumper from GT3 too...love the front wheels arches with air grille


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    16.06.2014 12:11:34

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Any idea about the side intakes? More cooling or possibility of a small turbo?


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    16.06.2014 12:44:18

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Maybe brakes and engine cooling?


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    16.06.2014 12:54:52

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Whatever they might be, Porsche should have styled them different to Turbo's.


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    16.06.2014 12:57:07

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    reginos:

    Any idea about the side intakes? More cooling or possibility of a small turbo?

    According to Fastlanedaily.com the RS will be turbocharged - as will Ferrari's updated 458!!!

     

    16.06.2014 13:06:47

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    911 Turbo has big grills at the back hood, this don't. So, no turbo charging? yes

    16.06.2014 15:25:00

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    reginos:

    Any idea about the side intakes? More cooling or possibility of a small turbo?

    You will know more soon. This car is NA engine. 

    Price is accoring to my source sky high. 

    Just... Some things are cooking rather strange in P HQ lately. Even some huge changes are possible. Like NO RS at all! I do not belive in that but, we will see soon...

    16.06.2014 15:35:31

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    Kreso : What is soon ?  I am getting very inpatient . The wait has been soooo long mail   

    But as time passes, If I were at P HD I would also seriously think about skipping 991.1RS as it is getting way to long into the production cycle ( FL of Carrera just around the corner )  +  NA engine might indeed not be ideal for the future racing homologations . 

    And what is sky high for the price ????  more then 20-30 K more then GT3 ?


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    16.06.2014 15:40:13

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    Re: 991 spy shots 2ND THREAD (for UNRELEASED models only) Thema geschlossen

    KresoF1:

    Just... Some things are cooking rather strange in P HQ lately. Even some huge changes are possible. Like NO RS at all! I do not belive in that but, we will see soon...

    what?Smiley

    Smiley

     


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