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    Whoopsy:

    All because the P1 uses the 12C platform. The space above the gas tank is the only place they can stash the batteries. Also, they put the e-motor where the starter motor is as they didn't have room to extend the 12C chassis in order to fit it inline like the 918 or the LaFerrari. All hard points are confined by the 12C platform.

    Despite the compromise, the P1 is still a great performer, but just imagine how much better it can be had McLaren got the money to do a ground up design instead of recycling the 12C platform.

     

    The latest news of hybridization of the McLaren range does suggest that the company has learned a positive lesson. 


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    http://www.carscoops.com/2014/05/future-cars-crystal-ball-gazing.html?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co

    Sadly  something as good looking as this is unlikely


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    Wow, at first I thought "why is there a corvette in this thread". Then the 928 window lines jumped out at me. That looks great except for the busy doors in my opinion.


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    Looks like a hybridization between a Viper and a Corvette.  Fugly IMHO  ........


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    The design idea is Ok, but the front and side looks too busy IMO


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    bingo

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/scoop/facelifted-porsche-911-targa-development-2015-launch


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    I would be upset if I am only getting the targa in my garage and saw this photo......

    They should have been very smart about these test mules! Test in ur own backyards!!!!


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    I don't get that.... I think it's for the first time they are soooo pushing the facelift... Who will buy 991/1 Targa if 991/2 Targa is around the corner??? yes


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    its the prospect of a targa gts that i find so exciting

     


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    SportCarGroup:

    I don't get that.... I think it's for the first time they are soooo pushing the facelift... Who will buy 991/1 Targa if 991/2 Targa is around the corner??? yes

    same can be said of coming GT3RS, no ? . and these discussions have occurred here for 996, 997, 991 generations and will continue in the future 992 , 994, 995 , 998, 999 series if the model line is still even alive 40 -44 years  from now 

     

     


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    March 2015 991.2? First deliveries summer 2015? 

    An year from now and we'll see 991.2 on street? Not bad.. I think I wouldn't buy a 991 now... Smiley And that GTS looks very good... Smiley


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    MKW:
    SportCarGroup:

    I don't get that.... I think it's for the first time they are soooo pushing the facelift... Who will buy 991/1 Targa if 991/2 Targa is around the corner??? yes

    same can be said of coming GT3RS, no ? . and these discussions have occurred here for 996, 997, 991 generations and will continue in the future 992 , 994, 995 , 998, 999 series if the model line is still even alive 40 -44 years  from now 

    Actually I cannot remember that the FL apeared so fast with the 997/2. 991/1 Targa was revealed on 15/01. I don't recall that 4 month after debut of specific Porsche model we were able to see it's FL mules on the street Smiley


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    BTW...991 GT3 RS won't be a FL...


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    true but targa gts will be a new model


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    steelested:

    true but targa gts will be a new model

    Why you're so sure it will be Targa GTS, but not just a FL Targa?


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    Last rumors tell Gt3 RS release pushed back to spring 2015...

     

    really,i think is too much...i don't know what to do if this rumor is true.


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


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    Super Darius:

    Last rumors tell Gt3 RS release pushed back to spring 2015...

     

    really,i think is too much...i don't know what to do if this rumor is true.

    Haven't heard about it....but the Turbo Targa should show up very soon


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    the auto car report suggest this and the rear exhausts are placed centrally in the same style as other gts models

    no one can be sure but thats the article

    hag sameach Smiley


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    steelested:

    the auto car report suggest this and the rear exhausts are placed centrally in the same style as other gts models

    no one can be sure but thats the article

    hag sameach Smiley

    Let's hope that they are right...Targa GTS would be very nice, as it originally heavier than other 991 family members :)

    Toda raba, ve hag sameach gam lecha Smiley


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    Super Darius:

    Last rumors tell Gt3 RS release pushed back to spring 2015...

     

    really,i think is too much...i don't know what to do if this rumor is true.

    My excitement about the car has dropped seriously in the last month . I agree it is getting too much .

    And, all these FL mules going around  ( TT, Targa, Carrera ) is not helping getting exited for an 'older' model .

    I don't understand this new way of showing FL mules a few month after the launch of the 1st car . They dad that with the TT and now with the Targa Smiley


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    Speculation: maybe some car related laws (for example emisson) will be changed in the near future and the facelift has to to presented before this will happen. So better too early than never. Pure speculation


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    Gnil:
    Super Darius:

    Last rumors tell Gt3 RS release pushed back to spring 2015...

     

    really,i think is too much...i don't know what to do if this rumor is true.

    My excitement about the car has dropped seriously in the last month . I agree it is getting too much .

    And, all these FL mules going around  ( TT, Targa, Carrera ) is not helping getting exited for an 'older' model .

    I don't understand this new way of showing FL mules a few month after the launch of the 1st car . They dad that with the TT and now with the Targa Smiley


    Same here..

    I don't know what to do,Also change to a TTS seems not a good move looking at all these FL mules.

    this time for me is really difficult...i'm near to give up and buy nothing,i'm really disappointed.Smiley


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


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    Could the GT3RS come out with the aesthetics facelift changes included?  otherwise this is ridiculous IMO.


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    Carlos from Spain:

    Could the GT3RS come out with the aesthetics facelift changes included?  otherwise this is ridiculous IMO.

    this must be the best solution...but sure will not happen.

    bed thing to spend so much money for something that don't satisfy you at 100%

    really,this time is difficult for me to take the final decision.


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


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    If I remember correctly, Goodwood festival of speed tweeted that the GT3RS will be unveiled at the event. So that's at the end of this month. Hopefully it is true!


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    BMW M3 usually kept the old looks after 3 series would have a facelift

     


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    but wasn't that because BMW were too lazy to update the tooling on the bespoke front wings?  (they did change  the rear lights)


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    991 (what a car!) XC90 - 120 Cab - 2 kids, 1 dog


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    I think it was not viable due to lower production numbers

    They didn't change rear lights on the proper M3 (E30)

    My point is RS will be special because of what it is mechanically, not because of new lights


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    pxaxh:

    If I remember correctly, Goodwood festival of speed tweeted that the GT3RS will be unveiled at the event. So that's at the end of this month. Hopefully it is true!

    Been invited by Porsche to Goodwood but no mention of the 3RS in the letter  Smiley


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    lor:

    My point is RS will be special because of what it is mechanically, not because of new lights

    right,and sure...

    but why have not all in one time?one/i would be happier to spend that money...Smiley

    i understand an year before...but judging from what we know ,seems question of weeks from the RS lauch to the launch of the facelift...

    i hate this kind of things.

    Hate also the facelift of the Turbo after an year and half from the introduction,we are not talking of a 50K euros Audi,damn....Smiley


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


     
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