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May 11, 2014 5:06:30 AM

philgva: Junior; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 75, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 24, 2014; Reply to: macca993

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Agree with Macca, one thing to consider is with the full exhaust you might loose warranty. When I check with my dealer changing the center exhaust was ok from a warranty stand point. I am also interested ultimately by the full akrapovic or cargraphic only if the header and bypass muffler have no issue with warranty. Now that it got extended by a year, I really don't feel the immediate need. A friend with a 997 fairly brand new turbo got his engine in flame and it burned everything in the engine bay, cost 50k and neither Porsche not tech art want to bare the cost. So at the end for couple of more HP and db I am not sure it is worth it, especially with the extra noise of the full system. With previous 997 RS and full akrspovic exhaust some cars were not allowed in SPA

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May 13, 2014 5:21:33 AM

philgva: Junior; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 75, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 24, 2014; Reply to: philgva

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Some news on the engine swap. Yesterday I was invited for the presentation of the 918 and discuss with my contact. So basically, after the engine is changed the dealer has to send to Porsche all the number, chassis, engine, so that the car will be matched. They will also do this to the authorities so it won't be seen as a replacement engine. So you need to count some extra days unless they release it to you before the admin has been completed, that it don't know.

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May 13, 2014 9:06:04 AM

ClockEm: Newbie; Loc: Midwest , United States; Posts: 18, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 24, 2014; Reply to: philgva

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Same is being done in the Uniyed States.

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May 13, 2014 9:58:27 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: ClockEm

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The engine swap barely started according to my information, so it could take quite some time longer than expected.

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May 13, 2014 2:32:24 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: RC

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There are supposed to let us know this week (I am not holding my breath) when our engines will be replaced. At the pace this is going I do not expect to see my car until October/November. I have no idea nor told as to why this is taking so long.

The communication from Porsche on this fiasco has been nothing short of abysmal.

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May 13, 2014 6:46:21 PM

sondek71: Newbie; Loc: Zurich , Switzerland; Posts: 4, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: nberry

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Sick of reading all the threads on 3 forums in parallel.....I now stopped being driven insane by the cat and mice game of PAG....just bought a pre-owned GT3 RS to play with.....this should shorten the (still) unknown waiting time.....finally looking forward to the Track Day season ahead....as happy Cat B owner.....;-))

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May 13, 2014 6:59:38 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: sondek71

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sondek71:

Sick of reading all the threads on 3 forums in parallel.....I now stopped being driven insane by the cat and mice game of PAG....just bought a pre-owned GT3 RS to play with.....this should shorten the (still) unknown waiting time.....finally looking forward to the Track Day season ahead....as happy Cat B owner.....;-))

Congrats on the RS! Smiley Good choice. Smiley Bulletproof.

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May 13, 2014 6:59:47 PM

igirl: Junior; Loc: Paris , France; Posts: 63, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 3, 2013; Reply to: philgva

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

philgva:

Some news on the engine swap. Yesterday I was invited for the presentation of the 918 and discuss with my contact. So basically, after the engine is changed the dealer has to send to Porsche all the number, chassis, engine, so that the car will be matched. They will also do this to the authorities so it won't be seen as a replacement engine. So you need to count some extra days unless they release it to you before the admin has been completed, that it don't know.

Hello

Any news? The 991 GT3 is back on road?
I've heard from a dealer that they haven't received all the pieces from Porsche and so they can't finish to swap the engines...? :(

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May 13, 2014 8:32:24 PM

Rotbart: Junior; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 91, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 16, 2014; Reply to: igirl

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Great to see, that the first engines being changed atm. Hopefully you guys don't have to wait that long any more and can drive the GT3 as soon as possible. kiss

Something, that is not about engines: Just found the 918 seat option on the German GT3 price list, probably available for MY 2015 cars.

Also the pre production car Chris Harris drives here has the 918 seat fitted on driver's side.

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May 13, 2014 8:47:13 PM

philgva: Junior; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 75, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 24, 2014; Reply to: Rotbart

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Igirl, not yet as mentioned when the dealer gets the engine he has to order separately about 40 parts, etc screw, everything that gets undone is replaced by a new part. This what they found out last Friday. Mine engine is supposed to arrive tomorrow will see but I think I will get it next week due to testing and admin, will for sure let you know.

Ah yesterday I sat in the 918 with the club sport package and to be honest the only two things I would take are the steering wheel and central console. I prefer the GT3 seats...

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May 13, 2014 8:56:11 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5178, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: philgva

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Very surprising news about your dealer needing to order parts for the engine swap. Porsche should have developed, and sent, a complete kit for undertaking the engine swap. This is a significant oversight and does not bode well for the quality of the update.

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May 13, 2014 9:05:15 PM

philgva: Junior; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 75, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 24, 2014; Reply to: CGX car nut

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Sorry 3 things the paddle shift were in carbon that was really nice. The most amazing part was they the car left from the hotel and for not disturbing guest they went on the electric mod, quit amazing. Funny enough one owner of not yet deliver 918 came with his La Ferrari, quite impressive

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May 13, 2014 9:17:42 PM

igirl: Junior; Loc: Paris , France; Posts: 63, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 3, 2013; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

CGX car nut:

Very surprising news about your dealer needing to order parts for the engine swap. Porsche should have developed, and sent, a complete kit for undertaking the engine swap. This is a significant oversight and does not bode well for the quality of the update.

Well, my dealer told me that they are receiving the different pieces in several packages... So it's not "1 box = 1 engine with everything for it together". :(

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May 13, 2014 9:20:08 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: igirl

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

igirl:

CGX car nut:

Very surprising news about your dealer needing to order parts for the engine swap. Porsche should have developed, and sent, a complete kit for undertaking the engine swap. This is a significant oversight and does not bode well for the quality of the update.

Well, my dealer told me that they are receiving the different pieces in several packages... So it's not "1 box = 1 engine with everything for it together". :(

What could possibly go wrong?

This is getting more complicated for each day...

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May 13, 2014 9:58:53 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5178, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: bluelines

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

bluelines:

igirl:

CGX car nut:

Very surprising news about your dealer needing to order parts for the engine swap. Porsche should have developed, and sent, a complete kit for undertaking the engine swap. This is a significant oversight and does not bode well for the quality of the update.

Well, my dealer told me that they are receiving the different pieces in several packages... So it's not "1 box = 1 engine with everything for it together". :(

What could possibly go wrong?

This is getting more complicated for each day...

It is very sad when General Motors is starting to look like a model of manufacturing and service efficiency when compared to Porsche. Smiley 22

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May 13, 2014 10:32:51 PM

jesse: Co-Pilot; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 270, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 13, 2004; Reply to: CGX car nut

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Smiley You guys really think that Porsche is something special regarding service quality? It's just the same crap as with other manufactures like BMW / Audi / VW and so on.

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May 14, 2014 12:50:30 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: philgva

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

philgva:

Sorry 3 things the paddle shift were in carbon that was really nice. The most amazing part was they the car left from the hotel and for not disturbing guest they went on the electric mod, quit amazing. Funny enough one owner of not yet deliver 918 came with his La Ferrari, quite impressive

Perfect way to egg on Porsche's face for the endless delays. Had I have one I would have done the same thing.

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May 14, 2014 2:13:58 AM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5178, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: jesse

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jesse:

You guys really think that Porsche is something special regarding service quality? It's just the same crap as with other manufactures like BMW / Audi / VW and so on.

Why shouldn't one expect a higher level of service for a $150,000+ automobile versus a $20,000 one? It is foolish to expect a customer to compromise and accept inferior service. Lexus is proof of that.

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May 14, 2014 2:34:56 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: CGX car nut

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CGX car nut:

jesse:

You guys really think that Porsche is something special regarding service quality? It's just the same crap as with other manufactures like BMW / Audi / VW and so on.

Why shouldn't one expect a higher level of service for a $150,000+ automobile versus a $20,000 one? It is foolish to expect a customer to compromise and accept inferior service. Lexus is proof of that.

I had one of my worse service experience dealing with Lexus, vowed to never buy Lexus again. Those are some cocky bastards on par with Ferrari dealerships.

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May 14, 2014 9:20:38 PM

davew (cincy): Veteran; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 1164, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2004; Reply to: Whoopsy

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I was treated quite poorly by a Nissan dealer when the GT-R first came out. Bye-bye and thanks for nothing.

Of course I have to admit that I am not a regular customer.

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May 15, 2014 12:59:57 AM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5178, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Whoopsy:

CGX car nut:

jesse:

You guys really think that Porsche is something special regarding service quality? It's just the same crap as with other manufactures like BMW / Audi / VW and so on.

Why shouldn't one expect a higher level of service for a $150,000+ automobile versus a $20,000 one? It is foolish to expect a customer to compromise and accept inferior service. Lexus is proof of that.

I had one of my worse service experience dealing with Lexus, vowed to never buy Lexus again. Those are some cocky bastards on par with Ferrari dealerships.

I've never known anyone before who ever had less than a very pleasant experience with Lexus. However, there are always exceptions.

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May 15, 2014 2:04:20 AM

Z356: Newbie; Loc: Carmel,CA , United States; Posts: 31, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 1, 2007; Reply to: bluelines

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bluelines:

Congrats on the RS! Good choice. Bulletproof.

Bulletproof? You must be kidding!

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/592328-catastrophic-coolant-hose-coupling-failure-registry.html

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/730166-2010-gt3-cl-recall-a-new-recall.html

Have you ever heard of intermediate shaft failure on the 997's, including gt3 RS's?

Or rear main seal issues on the gt3 RS?

http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic/26116-rear-main-seal-leak/

Saludos,

Eduardo

Carmel

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May 15, 2014 4:12:50 AM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: Z356

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Oh no, I have woken up Eduardo...

My deepest and sincerest apologies for the use of the word bulletproof. It was not to be taken literally nor were I kidding. The GT3 RS is certainly not bulletproof. It is not built for combat.

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May 15, 2014 5:34:40 AM

philgva: Junior; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 75, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 24, 2014; Reply to: bluelines

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As of yesterday, my engine has not arrived but all 40 peripheral parts did, getting closer but guess it won't be ready for this weekend

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May 15, 2014 6:17:32 AM

sondek71: Newbie; Loc: Zurich , Switzerland; Posts: 4, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: philgva

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Looks like they have half glasses down in Carmel......at least i will be driving something like a GT3 in less than 4 hours....after the parody playing since 3 months....happy enough though

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May 15, 2014 10:26:46 AM

GTlover: Co-Pilot; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 238, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2011; Reply to: Z356

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Z356:

bluelines:

Congrats on the RS! Good choice. Bulletproof.

Bulletproof? You must be kidding!

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/592328-catastrophic-coolant-hose-coupling-failure-registry.html

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/997-gt2-gt3-forum/730166-2010-gt3-cl-recall-a-new-recall.html

Have you ever heard of intermediate shaft failure on the 997's, including gt3 RS's?

Or rear main seal issues on the gt3 RS?

http://www.renntech.org/forums/topic/26116-rear-main-seal-leak/

Saludos,

Eduardo

Carmel

I guess when you talk about IMS you mean the normal 996-997 engine (has been beaten to death)..996/997 GT3 engines dont have IMS problems as they dont have it!!

Yes..996 and more 997 had their littls gremlins as well..but at least they didnt have get all a new engine and were waiting 3 months..keeping in mind that the 991 GT3 was presented in March 2013 at geneva..we have to wait 2-3 years more to make a valid comparisin..but for me its clear: 997 GT3: 1..991 GT3:0..if it now proves to be the most reliable track car ever..and fast..then it will be for sure in 5 years : 991 Gt3: 2 - 997 GT3 : 1...but were not there yet..

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May 15, 2014 6:20:01 PM

igirl: Junior; Loc: Paris , France; Posts: 63, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 3, 2013; Reply to: GTlover

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Guys,

I think I am one of the rare and lucky persons to have its 991 GT3 back!

Do not ask me how I did it.
I just can tell you that I had strong and hard discussions with Porsche and my dealer.
Nothing was easy.
But, at the end, they made it.
My baby is finally here and I will spend all my WE with it! :)

Keep faith. Good luck to the other owners.
And do not try to find a logic between the car delivery and engine swap dates...

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May 15, 2014 6:50:53 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: igirl

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Female? angry smiley

Congrats on getting the car back! We expect a detailed report and lots of pics after the weekend indecision

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May 16, 2014 12:51:48 AM

ag23: Co-Pilot; Loc: Puerto Rico , United States; Posts: 223, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 13, 2011; Reply to: igirl

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igirl:

Guys,

I think I am one of the rare and lucky persons to have its 991 GT3 back!

Do not ask me how I did it.
I just can tell you that I had strong and hard discussions with Porsche and my dealer.
Nothing was easy.
But, at the end, they made it.
My baby is finally here and I will spend all my WE with it! :)

Keep faith. Good luck to the other owners.
And do not try to find a logic between the car delivery and engine swap dates...

Don't worry about all the sexist comments... We are all very jealous... Smiley

Congratulations on getting your car back! Post pictures so that we can see it in action!

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2013 Porsche Panamera GTS [970.1] (Basalt Black) {Sold}

2013 Porsche 911 [991.1] Carrera S (GT Silver)

2014 Porsche 911 [991.1] GT3 (Agate Grey)

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May 16, 2014 3:49:24 AM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: ag23

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ag23:

Don't worry about all the sexist comments...

Are you referring to my comment?

Is holding up a door for a lady and letting her go before you sexist? Get the analogy? I guess not.

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