Re: 458 Speciale intro
RC:
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so a Turbo S will likely run as fast as the Speciale for half the price?
The Speciale is rumored to cost around 235k EUR (base price incl. 19% German VAT). I guess a well equipped car will be around 260k EUR, as I predicted before. The Turbo S is unfortunately not half the price. A well equipped Turbo S is around 205k EUR. The Speciale however is rumored to do 0-200 kph in 9.1 seconds, so the performance of the Speciale should be better than the one of the 991 Turbo S, especially in the over 150 kph range.
.... I like Ferrari's approach of lowering the 458 weight by 90 kg. I know that, considering the new AWS system and wider body, the weight of the new 991 Turbo S is actually 25 kg lower than the previous model but they should have dropped the weight by real 50 kg. ....
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)
The Ferrari expert of the board is Iain. But I would like to chime in here.
I think value of the Speciale is very very good, especially in Ferrari measures. It is only 30k euro (exc. German VAT) more expensive than regular italia but offers:
Racing Seats (5000 euro) - Alcantara trim (3500 euro) - interior carbon fiber pack including doors (11000 euro) - Forged dark color rims (4300 euro) - Scuderia shields (1000 euro) - carbon fiber airbox (some 5000 euro) as standart options on the car.
And it has much better brakes, active aero, 35 hp more, at least 50-60 kg lighter (I'll come to that 90 kg), better dynamics, sportier transmission software and all over better car.
The only thing it lacks is the radio/Hi-Fi system If I were to buy one, I would only get hi-fi system, colored brake calipers and rear parking sensors. That's all you need to have all of which will cost around 5-6k euro and the rest comes with the car. I think it is a much better value than Scuderia in terms of extra equipment. Now the cabin has enough alcantara upholstery as standart which will give that rich feel and several different colors of 3D fabric can be chosen for the middle part of the seats and the headlinear. It is still possible to load the car with every carbon option, expensive stripes, more alcantara or leather, telemetry data and even in-cam. But they are not essential to enjoy the car.
As for the 90kg lower weight: It is possible to have it that way if you check all the extra carbon options including engine bay and the diffuser. Also you should not choose any equipment which would add weight such as radio/Hi-Fi, leather, navi, telemetry, roll-bar etc.
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