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    Mar 4, 2014 6:35:00 AM

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    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    Mar 4, 2014 6:59:25 AM

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    For now the car has a very conservative aero. If it is a final package, I am afraid, Audi will kill Porsche.


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    Mar 4, 2014 8:21:26 AM

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    Inside it is something out of this world!


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    Mar 4, 2014 12:26:16 PM

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    kudryavchik:

    For now the car has a very conservative aero. If it is a final package, I am afraid, Audi will kill Porsche.

    Remember that Porsche now has Jose Gallego Segura and Mark Webber (who is very good at aero work), so they are well manned in that area.

    Mar 4, 2014 5:15:24 PM

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    webber especially))) Make f1 car airborn is a trus mastership!)))


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    Mar 5, 2014 6:07:34 AM

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    You should have seen what he did with a Mercedes!angrysmiley

    Mar 5, 2014 7:12:56 AM

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    Spyder idol , have u seen 919 #14 testing at Sebring now with new aero body? The lights, roof air intake front hood and side pods look totally different from what Motorsport .com has. I don't think it will look like what we now see at Geneva 

    Mar 5, 2014 7:13:25 AM

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    Mercedes was a true f22raptor flight))) I know))) But, as I understand, making proto fly is much simplier))) Porsche GT1 also flew well)))

     


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    Mar 5, 2014 7:23:54 AM

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    Spyder idol , have u seen 919 #14 testing at Sebring now with new aero body? The lights, roof air intake front hood and side pods look totally different from what Motorsport .com has. I don't think it will look like what we now see at Geneva 

    Have from the rear, the front fender it totally different. Could you please send the reference for more photos?Smiley


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    Mar 5, 2014 8:27:58 AM

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    Here are the photos:

    http://www.motorsport.com/all/photos/main-gallery/?s=5&y=2014&r=7862

    It is an evolution (as expected). Not a revolution.

     

    Mar 5, 2014 8:30:35 AM

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    It is reasonable to expect to see more aero changes throughout the season.

    Mar 5, 2014 8:45:11 AM

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    Yes, of course it is not a revolution, but it is also not a car that was presented yesterday. Very different aero, inlet ports and so on)


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    Mar 5, 2014 8:58:43 AM

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    ...which is natural. You don't really want every one getting a close look at your euro package whilst the car is being displayed to the public on stage.

    Also - The car  presented is what they call the 2013 chassis. The one testing is the 2014 version.

     

    Mar 5, 2014 9:19:33 AM

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    Yep, totally agree, normal procedures)))

    Spyderidol, how do you think why did they decide to make a mixed gearbox casing? Why not CF with Ti inserts. For what Alu?

    The most interesting thing in car is - turbogenerator. Very radical decision!...


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    Mar 5, 2014 10:59:58 AM

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    I really have no idea. I'm sure that they (Porsche) have a reason. I only hope that it is valid.

    I'll be interested to see their demeanor after the Sebring tests. They should have a better idea on how the car performs in relation to the Audi (a much better looking car IMO) after this test.

     

    Mar 5, 2014 11:22:06 AM

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    A very interesting chat with Mark Webber at the Geneva Motor show.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnbPD...ure=youtu.be&a

    Mar 5, 2014 5:46:00 PM

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    What does journalist say: Its a lot slower than f1 car or it is not a lot slower than f1 car???)))

    4,4 liters of fuel per Le Mans lap, 9000 rpm, 870 kgs...


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    Mar 5, 2014 5:50:19 PM

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    Its slower, of course. Journalist pointed that fact as difference that will be noticeable for Mark (in comparison with other drivers that have no experience with F1 car).


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    last year around 10 secs per lap, but more advanced I believe. 


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    Mar 5, 2014 6:13:20 PM

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    It is also important to remember that tires make a huge difference. LMP1's are talking of quadruple-stinting their tires at Le Mans. That's about + 600Km. 

    F1 tires last for about 60km.

    Mar 5, 2014 6:29:30 PM

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    Tyres and weight of course. Just watched incar of R18 and F1 Alonso - same speed on fast corners, little less speed in LMP1 on slow and midspeed ones, little bit longer acceleration, top speed the same.

    So, yep - weight and tyres.

    Very interesting to compare group C and F1. Group C was a monster on straights. But slower on lap times due to weight.


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    Mar 5, 2014 10:50:34 PM

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    Spyderidol:

    A very interesting chat with Mark Webber at the Geneva Motor show.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnbPD...ure=youtu.be&a

    Porsche 919 Hybrid and 911 RSR with Mark Webber at the Geneva Motor Show 2014

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    Porsche 919 Hybrid and 911 RSR with Mark Webber at the Geneva Motor Show 2014 -- Evo video link

    Smiley SmileySmiley

    Mar 6, 2014 8:36:05 AM

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    Footage of this week's test at Sebring.

     

     

     

    Mar 7, 2014 5:42:17 AM

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    It looks so great in motion, and that V4 has a nice little growl to it!  Porsche is analyzing parts while Audi is working on race simulation (http://www.racer.com/index.php/latest-stories/item/101617-audi-porsche-test-won-t-reveal-order). 


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    I love the way the gearbox sounds and the looks are growing on me. I especially like the curve and swoop of the rear between the rear wheels. I don't think I'll ever get over the vertical stabilizer though yes

    -J

    Mar 7, 2014 1:34:41 PM

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    SimpleSkin:

    I love the way the gearbox sounds and the looks are growing on me. I especially like the curve and swoop of the rear between the rear wheels. I don't think I'll ever get over the vertical stabilizer though yes

    -J

     

    Oh well. It looks like the latest aero package has removed my favorite feature. LOL.

    -Justin

    Mar 7, 2014 1:57:14 PM

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    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    The first (big) picture in the article is the Audi. Not the 991.

    Mar 8, 2014 4:26:31 PM

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    How soon before we see a turbo V4 in a Porsche road car???

    Mar 8, 2014 5:11:54 PM

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    Not long.

    Mar 12, 2014 12:54:40 PM

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    Wonderful information in this particular Forum, thanks to all.

    Can anyone post when Porsche made the decision to halt the LeMans program (1998?), and why (both the "official line" and the real reasons?  I am researching a long article and would love some facts and/or references to pursue.  

    Thanks...

     

    P.S. I have some press kit pics of the 919 and 991 RSR, if someone wants me to post.  They may be old news, but let me know...

     
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