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Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
While i continue to believe that the Macan will bring more long time customers to the Porsche brand, I also believe that the totality of the Macan customer experience (sales, service, efficient delivery of information) will become more and more important to that customer's acquisition and retention.
Assuming that the demographic of the Macan buyer is younger than the current Porsche demographic, this generation of buyer is particularly influenced by technology (iPhones, Web purchasing, Twitter, instant messaging, etc.,) and expects that their automobiles and their purchasing/servicing experience be hassle free, efficient and lightening quick. For example, I predict that those customers will soon prefer to purchase their cars online directly, just as they would other online purchases. Sales personnel at dealers will dwindle, and become more like advisors. Service will be accomplished more remotely as well. Porsche "dealerships" will become more like Porsche "experience centers" where customers will pick up the cars they have ordered online, have them serviced in situations where the repairs cannot be done remotely, and where customers can enjoy events and other recreational and educational experiences. Tesla is already moving in this direction, with their sales centers in malls and small office spaces. Those manufacturers who move best to this--I believe inevitable--change will prosper, while others who don't adapt will fail.
I am still the customer who prefers to go to a dealer, see cars on the showroom floor, talk to sales personnel, even just hang around the "atmosphere". But folks, I am now 71, and probably fall into the "troglodyte" class.
RC, perhaps a new thread could be started entitled "Future of Porsche Customer Experience". I think Rennteam members would have some fascinating ideas and predictions, and even i could learn something...
Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
mercedes new GLA - the Evoque and in particular the small face lift with the new autobiography, and the Volvo concpet XC SUV all make the Macan look like a vehicle designed by the bean counters in Porsche.
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Mercedes GLA is built on A/B class platform .. it is a small SUV, not mid sized like the Macan. GLA is IMO over designed and will not date well, like many recent modern Mercs.
Evoque also smaller than Macan, and no V6 Diesel. Plus interior quality not as good as Macan. On top of all that, far too blingy and shouty.
Volvo: let's see. The current XC60 is utter rubbish .. poor engines, terrible handling and unsettled ride. Interior OK, but nothing to get excited about.
Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
WAY:
But RC, Porsche always had the 914/916 and 924/944. Didn't they "cheapen" the brand too?
And don't forget the 912. Did that not dilute the Porsche brand and image? Or worse yet, the 912E.
In the US, the 914 was sold as a Porsche, but in the rest of the world it was a VW-Porsche; I suppose that's why RC did not list it as the start of Porsche's brand dilution. But doesn't the very idea of a "VW-Porsche" in itself a dilution?
The reality is, Porsche started as a re-bodied VW. So enough with the exclusivity and dilution talk. What dilutes a brand are uninspired products, and in this regard, I agree with RC: ditch the V6 and Diesel Cayenne, e.g. I disagree on the Cayman though.
Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
CPA4S:
mercedes new GLA - the Evoque and in particular the small face lift with the new autobiography, and the Volvo concpet XC SUV all make the Macan look like a vehicle designed by the bean counters in Porsche.
You clearly don't understand that Porsche owners do not want to be too flashy, at least not over here in Germany.
Also, why would someone drive a "less sporty" SUV? The competition will have difficulties to keep up with the dynamic Macan. Also, the Macan looks a bit like a small Cayenne and this is also more important than you think for some customers.
The new GLA looks hideous, the Evoque is super stylish but then too stylish and the Volvo concept is...a concept and even if Volvo would get it right, nobody here would seriously consider one instead of a Porsche.
As you see: All is well in the house Porsche. 
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Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
All the empty slots are gradually being filled in the Porsche grand model plan. We hope that in the next few years we'll have the small Panamera based on the upcoming Audi A6 platform and undoubtly Porsche will not miss the great opportunity to offer a MQB based hyperhatch selling at 50% above Golf R.
With this mentality buyers will soon turn away from the 911, as the illustrious history of this model fades away in memory. The IMS debacle was somehow kept silent but I don't think that the GT3 fiasco will go unnoticed, as it has already occupied the mainstream media.
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Feb 25, 2014 8:23:01 PM
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Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
Porsche Macan vs Range Rover Evoque...
"...one of these is the best small SUV in the world..."
"Porsche purists might not like it, but the Porsche Macan has already proved to be a smash hit. More than 50,000 have been sold already, which means there's a year-long waiting list. In the hysteria around the new model, it's easy to feel sorry for the Range Rover Evoque. But when it comes to performance, ride and handling, even in the 46mpg S Diesel, the Macan is all over the Evoque. Steve Sutcliffe puts them both to the test..."
Porsche Macan vs Range Rover Evoque -- Autocar video link
Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
the macan is 90 % of the size weight and interior of the Cayenne - come on. it is a joke to call it a new SUV - it is nothing more than a Cayenne varient - at least under that title it would be an honest delivery of product.
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those other cars are ORIGINAL - i can see why a modern Porsche thread may have issues with that principle. just compare those early Porsche drawings of what that machine could have been. night and bl@@dy day fronm he slab that came out.
i am starting to understand Clarksen's take on the brand after waiting for the Macan and then seeing the product. as one might be able to tell from my tone, i think it is one of the most disappointing product deliveries in a very long time.
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Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
reginos:
Porsche should have made the Panamera more practical (rear bench and sufficient luggage space) and offer a Coupe version too to rival Mercedes and Bentley. Personally, I like the shape of the facelifted Panamera.
Yes, however...the facelift is not really a hit. 
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Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
CPA4S:
those other cars are ORIGINAL - i can see why a modern Porsche thread may have issues with that principle. just compare those early Porsche drawings of what that machine could have been. night and bl@@dy day fronm he slab that came out.
i am starting to understand Clarksen's take on the brand after waiting for the Macan and then seeing the product. as one might be able to tell from my tone, i think it is one of the most disappointing product deliveries in a very long time.
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2012 991 C2S -PDK / 2010 997.2 turbo cab manual, sold //2008 RS 60 sold /04 C4S sold - 08 Cayenne Turbo PDCC sold
Well... Then buy something else...
it seems that at least 50,000 people don't agree with you, because the car is selling like hot cakes. I was also kinda disappointed when I first say the car at the L.A. Autoshow, so I didn't buy one. What's the big deal? There are alternatives enough. The only thing that matters for Porsche, is how the car is selling and they're doing a pretty good job.
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Feb 26, 2014 10:38:28 AM
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Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
Boxster Coupe GTS:
Porsche Macan vs Range Rover Evoque...
"...one of these is the best small SUV in the world..."
"Porsche purists might not like it, but the Porsche Macan has already proved to be a smash hit. More than 50,000 have been sold already, which means there's a year-long waiting list. In the hysteria around the new model, it's easy to feel sorry for the Range Rover Evoque. But when it comes to performance, ride and handling, even in the 46mpg S Diesel, the Macan is all over the Evoque. Steve Sutcliffe puts them both to the test..."
Porsche Macan vs Range Rover Evoque -- Autocar video link
What I really want to know is, what is the throttle response like on the diesel. I'm more likely to order the S or Turbo, but curious to know what the throttle response on a "Porsche" diesel is like. The only diesel we've ever owned, a X3 30D (they don't bring the 35D here) has crappy throttle response and I really dislike it. Will the Macan Diesel S change my mind about diesels?
Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
Throttle response is pretty good on the Diesel S, especially with Sport Plus (Sport Chrono package) active. Even has a launch control. My wife's X3 35d has a sport setting and the throttle response is quite good with that setup.
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RC:
Throttle response is pretty good on the Diesel S, especially with Sport Plus (Sport Chrono package) active. Even has a launch control. My wife's X3 35d has a sport setting and the throttle response is quite good with that setup.
I'm very curious about that as well. Can't wait to testdrive the Macan diesel S. I wonder how it compares to the Q5's engine and that from the Cayenne diesel. It is the same, but I didn't like it in the Audi. The Biturbo from the SQ5 is completely different. Much better throttle respons and besides the lower rpm, it almost feels like a good turbocharged petrol engine, like the one in the TTS (but a lot less powerful of course). That is the only reason why i went for that engine in my A6, instead of the normal 3.0TDI, which would have saved me quite a bit of money.
Also curious if ABT will come with an upgrade for the Macan S diesel. 
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Feb 28, 2014 7:23:38 AM
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Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
Off to Geneva today for press days next Tuesday and Wednesday. Anxious to get a firm impression of the Macan, and will be posting pics and comments daily. Any particular questions Rennteamers would like me to ask of Porsche representatives? i want to really compare the space/fee/design features of a Macan versus a Cayenne.
Any other questions on other models as well? Targa will be there, and the cars that will race at LeMans. The press conference will focus on Porsche's return to top level racing. Going to be interesting...
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Not a Porsche, but the California T is my favourite car of the show I think. Can't wait to see it in person! Also curious about the 991 Targa.
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Re: OFFICIAL: Porsche Macan
Wonderbar:
Off to Geneva today for press days next Tuesday and Wednesday. Anxious to get a firm impression of the Macan, and will be posting pics and comments daily. Any particular questions Rennteamers would like me to ask of Porsche representatives? i want to really compare the space/fee/design features of a Macan versus a Cayenne.
Any other questions on other models as well? Targa will be there, and the cars that will race at LeMans. The press conference will focus on Porsche's return to top level racing. Going to be interesting...
HI, I'd really appreciate knowing if Porsche is planning on offering PDCC on the Macan, and, why it's not utilized now? thanks much
Mar 2, 2014 3:21:25 AM
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