Jaguar F type coupe
Do you like it?
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"Form follows function"
Do you like it?
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"Form follows function"
Definitely on the looks department the 991 is way ahead, I think this car is more Boxster/Cayman rival than 991 but with this 550Hp engine and at this price it can really hurt some 991 sales. It looks and sounds good and it seems it can be a lot of fun too, very nice job from Jaguar.
J.Seven
Although it looks better than the Convertible, I still think the rear looks already outdated and the front is too much Maserati...
Not really my cup of tea... But it sounds nice though.
Suzy
2013 Porsche Boxster S (MT) | Basaltblack metallic
2012 Audi SQ5 TDI | Lavagrey metallic
Achingly beautiful and a great sound. Thankfully they have toned down the exhaust a little (it can go back to full song with a push of a button) but it was too loud around town.
This WLL take a lot of sales away from the 911, and Aston and Maserati...
Past-President, Porsche Club of America - Upper Canada Region
reginos:
Do you like it?
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"Form follows function"
I like it, I just wish the price tag would be closer to the C63 AMG Coupe.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), BMW X3 35d (2013)
Mar 21, 2014 10:16:15 PM
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reginos:
Do you like it?
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"Form follows function"
It's the price of a decently specced Carrera S - which is where my money would go I'm afraid
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Porsche 997 Carrera S PDK Aqua Blue / Black - Skoda Octavia Mk.3 daily drive
Nice sound. Looks like a Aston-Maserati-Chrysler Crossfire. Hate the rear lights.
Would never get it instead of a 991 and I don't think it will affect the 991 sales (at all). IMHO it is for old geezers who appreciate cruising more than driving. I might change that opinion when I see an official lap time and not only tire smoke.
2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | S-PASM (-20mm) | PSE
2010 Audi S5 cabrio | Ibis White
Mar 24, 2014 3:35:17 AM
Mar 24, 2014 4:47:47 AM
Grant:
Has anyone heard whether a manual gearbox will eventually be available?
What do you think? In five years tops, manual gearboxes will be a thing of the past (with a few exceptions for the US market)...or a thing of "kit" cars. I guess you knew this before, didn't you?
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)
RC:
Grant:
Has anyone heard whether a manual gearbox will eventually be available?
What do you think? In five years tops, manual gearboxes will be a thing of the past (with a few exceptions for the US market)...or a thing of "kit" cars. I guess you knew this before, didn't you?
Rumour suggests there will be one soon
Gen II Cayman S
RC:
What do you think? In five years tops, manual gearboxes will be a thing of the past (with a few exceptions for the US market)...or a thing of "kit" cars. I guess you knew this before, didn't you?
That is just a fact in the marketplace, designed to the lowest common denominator of drivers who cannot drive well
I like my music played on vinyl and reproduced by vacuum tubes also. Just because something is obsolete doesn't mean it isn't superior.
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550
Mar 24, 2014 9:17:53 PM
RC:
Grant:
Has anyone heard whether a manual gearbox will eventually be available?
What do you think? In five years tops, manual gearboxes will be a thing of the past (with a few exceptions for the US market)...or a thing of "kit" cars. I guess you knew this before, didn't you?
Correct, and replaced by autonomous driving systems for the youngster set raised on magic glass panels.
Mar 25, 2014 12:42:53 AM
I don't see how Jaguar engineers can feel proud about this car.
Consider its weight of 3671lb, its cheap plastic paddle shifters, little room for luggage, bus driver size steering wheel and its hideous touch screen system that's lower tech than a third world cellphone.
Yes its a new Jaguar coupe. But not a good one.
Mar 25, 2014 12:43:37 AM
CGX car nut:
RC:
Grant:
Has anyone heard whether a manual gearbox will eventually be available?
What do you think? In five years tops, manual gearboxes will be a thing of the past (with a few exceptions for the US market)...or a thing of "kit" cars. I guess you knew this before, didn't you?
Correct, and replaced by autonomous driving systems for the youngster set raised on magic glass panels.
I'm holding out for the Porsche Driving Simulator. Why bother with the physical world at all. Have a quick virtual spin on the simulator for fun, then hop into your GoogleMobile that will drive you to the office while you answer emails.
As far as transmission options, I will order the 915 transmission chip, to get that old 911 SC shifting feel through the programmable force feedback shift lever.
911 SC shifters were for wimps and its pattern was a mistake. The original 901 5spd dog leg pattern was much more sporty. In fact the SC felt like a barge compared to early 911's which didn't even have a hydraulic clutch assist system. One could argue that post 73 911's were softened up for customers who wanted to look like they were "sports car owners".
Jim, you're absolutely right. I enjoyed the dog leg 1st gear in my old 914 more than the 911 SC pattern; it felt more special; provided more of a sense of occasion. (BTW, the 911 SC did not have hydraulic clutch assist but simply an over-center assist spring acting on the pedal.) So much obscure stuff that Porsche could mine if they offered a driving simulator...
That dog leg pattern was bad ass. If you were in a hurry and knew it very well, the 1st to 2nd shift was more almost straight up but at a slightly right offset angle. It was a tricky wrist move. The 4 to 5 shift motion was kind of like whipping a horse to go faster. The glory of it all! 911s after 72 lost that user trick thrill.
JimFlat6:
That dog leg pattern was bad ass. If you were in a hurry and knew it very well, the 1st to 2nd shift was more almost straight up but at a slightly right offset angle. It was a tricky wrist move. The 4 to 5 shift motion was kind of like whipping a horse to go faster. The glory of it all! 911s after 72 lost that user trick thrill.
I love that pattern too. The 928 had it too and so did my 1979 BMW 635CSi European model with close-ratio 5spd. My friend's Pantera has it also.
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550
JimFlat6:
I don't see how Jaguar engineers can feel proud about this car.
Consider its weight of 3671lb, its cheap plastic paddle shifters, little room for luggage, bus driver size steering wheel and its hideous touch screen system that's lower tech than a third world cellphone.
Yes its a new Jaguar coupe. But not a good one.
I am pretty sure they could have reduced weight and they could have offered a better quality here and there but I doubt they could have kept the current price tag by doing that. Jaguar knows their typical customers pretty well, so I guess there was no need for further "sophistication" and sportiness.
Look at Maserati for example (or maybe even Aston Martin for that matter): Expensive but they still seem to sell, despite their actual lack of sportiness. A base 991 Carrera with 350 hp puts a Maserati Grandturismo to shame when it comes to acceleration or track performance and the base 991 Carrera costs at least 40k EUR less.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)
Grant:
JimFlat6:
That dog leg pattern was bad ass. If you were in a hurry and knew it very well, the 1st to 2nd shift was more almost straight up but at a slightly right offset angle. It was a tricky wrist move. The 4 to 5 shift motion was kind of like whipping a horse to go faster. The glory of it all! 911s after 72 lost that user trick thrill.
I love that pattern too. The 928 had it too and so did my 1979 BMW 635CSi European model with close-ratio 5spd. My friend's Pantera has it also.
The Porsche's and BMW's were made by Getrag. I drove the 924 Carrera GT with this box and the 3-2 change was very handy. What a nice car that was with "only" 210 HP. Now the 981 GTS comes with 340 HP and it is considered too little.
"Form follows function"
reginos:
The Porsche's and BMW's were made by Getrag. I drove the 924 Carrera GT with this box and the 3-2 change was very handy. What a nice car that was with "only" 210 HP. Now the 981 GTS comes with 340 HP and it is considered too little.
Actually, the early 911 gearbox was made by Porsche, afaik (before they started outsourcing).
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73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550
How about creating a new forum section for transmissions? You guys seem to have a lot to share. This thread had gone even more off topic than the GT3 thread. Who would have thought?
2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | S-PASM (-20mm) | PSE
2010 Audi S5 cabrio | Ibis White
Mar 25, 2014 9:43:25 PM
bluelines:
How about creating a new forum section for transmissions? You guys seem to have a lot to share. This thread had gone even more off topic than the GT3 thread. Who would have thought?
Shhh! The rich diversity of subject matter on just a few threads is one of the things that makes RT unique!
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