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Oct 11, 2013 1:26:05 PM

Super Darius: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Italy-Como , Italy; Posts: 4084, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 7, 2002; Reply to: 991 GT3

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Thanks all guys! wink

Hope to make the right choice,i leave the Turbo engine,and this is what worry much me,but i whant to take this car for a few,and i think a GT3 RS will be more emotional and exclusive than a 911 Turbo,specially due is not a DD,but a fun car for the week end(and not all the week end) so...

Both great cars,but this time i whant to change.

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Oct 11, 2013 1:31:43 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Super Darius

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Super Darius:

Thanks all guys!

Hope to make the right choice,i leave the Turbo engine,and this is what worry much me,but i whant to take this car for a few,and i think a GT3 RS will be more emotional and exclusive than a 911 Turbo,specially due is not a DD,but a fun car for the week end(and not all the week end) so...

Both great cars,but this time i whant to change.

Change is sometimes good. Smiley

When you get the car, you invite us...for some spaghetti...aldente of course. Smiley

Smiley

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Oct 11, 2013 1:33:41 PM

bhnyc: Co-Pilot; Loc: New York , United States; Posts: 173, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 21, 2011; Reply to: Super Darius

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Super Darius:
Thanks all guys!
Hope to make the right choice,i leave the Turbo engine,and this is what worry much me,but i whant to take this car for a few,and i think a GT3 RS will be more emotional and exclusive than a 911 Turbo,specially due is not a DD,but a fun car for the week end(and not all the week end) so...
Both great cars,but this time i whant to change.

The GT3 specializes in emotion and the RS versions are a double dose. Congratulations and enjoy.

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Oct 11, 2013 1:33:56 PM

Super Darius: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Italy-Como , Italy; Posts: 4084, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 7, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

RC:

Super Darius:

Thanks all guys!

Hope to make the right choice,i leave the Turbo engine,and this is what worry much me,but i whant to take this car for a few,and i think a GT3 RS will be more emotional and exclusive than a 911 Turbo,specially due is not a DD,but a fun car for the week end(and not all the week end) so...

Both great cars,but this time i whant to change.

Change is sometimes good.

When you get the car, you invite us...for some spaghetti...aldente of course.

Sure,and some caffè espresso,so also Suzy will join us... Smiley

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Oct 11, 2013 1:39:36 PM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Super Darius

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Super Darius:

i'm officially on the list for an RS from....today.

Many congrats, Dario, I think you made the right decision. Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Oct 11, 2013 2:06:52 PM

SuzyF: Expert; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 1306, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2013; Reply to: Rossi

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Congrats Dario! kiss

Saw that you immediately changed your cover on FB ;)

PS: Caffè Espresso is perfect blush

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Oct 11, 2013 2:18:25 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: SuzyF

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SuzyF:

Congrats Dario!

Saw that you immediately changed your cover on FB ;)

PS: Caffè Espresso is perfect

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Suzy

I am only around 400 km away from Dairo's location, so we can always meet there for a good espresso and some good italian food. And of course for some old school bragging about cars. Smiley My son would love that, especially if it warms up again (after the winter) outside.

So next year it is...spring (we can repeat it when Dario's car is coming in autumn Smiley ).

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Oct 11, 2013 2:19:20 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: reginos

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reginos:

MKSGR:

BTW, when I am talking about production quality I always keep in mind that the Italian products are unique and irreplaceable. I am not saying that the products are inferior - I am just saying they have different qualities/specifica, These special qualities also make the products so desirable And the F458 is a magnificent car

It's important where and by whom a product is engineered, not so much where it is manufactured or assembled.

Many components are made all around the world, as someone mentioned above, but if they are made to German standards they are as good as if they are made in Germany.

I had a C class made in South Africa and I currently own a VW Polo also made in SA. They are perfect as any of the others. Also the engine of one of my BMW motorbikes is made in China. Again the factory there is run to the BMW Motorrad-Berlin standards.

Of course, if the Ferraris were engineered in Zuffenhausen they would be better Smiley Smiley

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Oct 11, 2013 2:22:22 PM

Super Darius: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Italy-Como , Italy; Posts: 4084, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 7, 2002; Reply to: RC

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RC:

So next year it is...spring (we can repeat it when Dario's car is coming in autumn ).

xzhahxzhahah Smiley

Smiley

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Oct 11, 2013 2:59:09 PM

SuzyF: Expert; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 1306, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2013; Reply to: RC

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RC:

I am only around 400 km away from Dairo's location, so we can always meet there for a good espresso and some good italian food. And of course for some old school bragging about cars. My son would love that, especially if it warms up again (after the winter) outside.

So next year it is...spring (we can repeat it when Dario's car is coming in autumn ).

Hahaha! Smiley

For me it's only half that distance, so next year spring it is! Hahaha Smiley Smiley

With a little luck I have my new car around that time (if I can decide which one I want) Smiley

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Suzy

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Oct 11, 2013 3:13:04 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

MKSGR:

reginos:

MKSGR:

BTW, when I am talking about production quality I always keep in mind that the Italian products are unique and irreplaceable. I am not saying that the products are inferior - I am just saying they have different qualities/specifica, These special qualities also make the products so desirable And the F458 is a magnificent car

It's important where and by whom a product is engineered, not so much where it is manufactured or assembled.

Many components are made all around the world, as someone mentioned above, but if they are made to German standards they are as good as if they are made in Germany.

I had a C class made in South Africa and I currently own a VW Polo also made in SA. They are perfect as any of the others. Also the engine of one of my BMW motorbikes is made in China. Again the factory there is run to the BMW Motorrad-Berlin standards.

Of course, if the Ferraris were engineered in Zuffenhausen they would be better

So, we must have high hopes for the future Lamborghinis, since Porsche will have input in all VW Group's sportscars Smiley

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Oct 11, 2013 3:34:37 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: reginos

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Piech's wife loves Ferrari, she even collects Ferraris. I heard that Piech is rumored to "target" Ferrari with the next Lamborghini generations. Maybe he feels annoyed that his own wife loves Ferrari. Btw: Piech loves to drive...Bugatti. He has the latest and most powerful version (of course ), among other cars of course, like the Carrera GT and the 918 now (as far as I heard).

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Oct 11, 2013 3:41:53 PM

Super Darius: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Italy-Como , Italy; Posts: 4084, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 7, 2002; Reply to: SuzyF

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

SuzyF:

With a little luck I have my new car around that time (if I can decide which one I want)

well...i think that we "can" have some problems for a meet in spring. Smiley

RC will come with the Turbo S,and this is sure,Suzy in train and me at foot. Smiley

then RC will come home in train,i will keep the Turbo S and Suzy hahahahhaha Smiley (i'm joking) Smiley

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Oct 11, 2013 3:43:49 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: Super Darius

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Super Darius:

SuzyF:

With a little luck I have my new car around that time (if I can decide which one I want)

well...i think that we "can" have some problems for a meet in spring.

RC will come with the Turbo S,and this is sure,Suzy in train and me at foot.

then RC will come home in train,i will keep the Turbo S and Suzy hahahahhaha (i'm joking)

Be careful not to end up with RC yourself, and Suzy to run away with the Turbo S Smiley

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"Form follows function"

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Oct 11, 2013 4:08:01 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14171, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: Super Darius

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Super Darius:

i'm officially on the list for an RS from....today.

but i don't know nothing about it...so RC,make something for me/us.

congratulions ! We are now in the same boat ..... in a very flat , no wind , sea , and just waiting , waiting.......

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Oct 11, 2013 5:51:08 PM

DuckieRS: Senior; Loc: Belgium , Belgium; Posts: 786, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 15, 2007; Reply to: Gnil

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Felicitazioni guys!

Remember to use a 'flare' when the waiting gets to you... We'll give support.

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Oct 11, 2013 7:41:17 PM

Super Darius: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Italy-Como , Italy; Posts: 4084, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 7, 2002; Reply to: reginos

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

reginos:

Super Darius:

SuzyF:

With a little luck I have my new car around that time (if I can decide which one I want)

well...i think that we "can" have some problems for a meet in spring.

RC will come with the Turbo S,and this is sure,Suzy in train and me at foot.

then RC will come home in train,i will keep the Turbo S and Suzy hahahahhaha (i'm joking)

Be careful not to end up with RC yourself, and Suzy to run away with the Turbo S

Sure the real end would be this...hahahhaha Smiley

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Oct 11, 2013 7:47:00 PM

Super Darius: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Italy-Como , Italy; Posts: 4084, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 7, 2002; Reply to: DuckieRS

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Duckie,Gnil and all others,really thanks!!

the wait will be long,all news and rumors can help,so go and find something good Smiley

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Oct 11, 2013 8:39:00 PM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5884, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: Super Darius

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Congratulations Super Darius -- the 991 GT3 RS will be an awesome drive!

It seems that at the LA Auto Show there will be two world debuts for Porsche in addition to the Macan, so maybe we could see the unveiling of the 2014 Porsche 991 GT3 RS...

Porsche 991 GT3 RS Nurburgring Track Test -- Video Link

Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Oct 11, 2013 9:27:58 PM

SuzyF: Expert; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 1306, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2013; Reply to: Super Darius

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Super Darius:

reginos:

Super Darius:

SuzyF:

With a little luck I have my new car around that time (if I can decide which one I want)

well...i think that we "can" have some problems for a meet in spring.

RC will come with the Turbo S,and this is sure,Suzy in train and me at foot.

then RC will come home in train,i will keep the Turbo S and Suzy hahahahhaha (i'm joking)

Be careful not to end up with RC yourself, and Suzy to run away with the Turbo S

Sure the real end would be this...hahahhaha

Hahahahaha!! I would never do such thing! Smiley ......... probably........ Smiley Smiley

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Suzy

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Oct 11, 2013 10:33:34 PM

watt: Rennteam Master; Loc: Way Back In , New Zealand; Posts: 4561, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 27, 2002; Reply to: RC

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RC:

Some rumor update regarding 991 GT3 customer cars:

1. No customer car built until earliest mid of November (very likely no customer car delivered at all until December but this remains to be seen...).

2. Delay issues seem to be PDK (heat) and engine (high revving durability).

3. Solutions: PDK will get improved cooling, engine gets improved pistons/piston rods.

Again...rumors. Please take with a grain of salt. There is no official confirmation for the above!

Do not be worried if you ordered a GT3. I heard rumors that Porsche is doing everything to get the job done and the customer cars will be perfect. On the contrary, I think that with the improvements, the GT3 will be even better and much more reliable. It is good that they caught it in time.

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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)

This sounds fairly serious to be occurring so late in the product launch cycle. Are there previous examples this serious that were resolved quickly?

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Oct 11, 2013 11:20:11 PM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5884, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: watt

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Interesting comments from Matthias Müller (Porsche CEO) in the latest issue of Total 911...

Matthias Müller, Porsche CEO:

"When we had to decide on the GT3's gearbox, there was a huge discussion over whether we should have a manual gearbox, PDK or both. Of course, a lot of people voted for both, but in the end we decided to go with PDK. Developing two drivetrains is expensive and we are convinced about the specially developed PDK transmission in the GT3, as it changes gear in less than 100 milliseconds."

"But I have a 997 GT3 RS 4.0 with a manual gearbox, and I am also a fan of the manual gearbox. So maybe if we release a special edition of the new GT3, we might fit a manual gearbox."

-- Matthias Müller, Porsche AG CEO

...thanks to Total 911 for the interview!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Oct 12, 2013 8:33:29 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

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Mr. Müller had a 991 GT3 as his primary "work" car for quite some while. Now he drives a 991 Turbo S (and of course he can drive whatever Porsche has to offer too). I thought it is worth mentioning.

The "fitting" of a manual gearbox for a "special model" he mentioned could prove to be a challenge (AWS and electr. diff. and all) but if they build one, I would expect a price tag over 200k EUR, so I guess it wouldn't matter.

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Oct 12, 2013 8:38:59 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: reginos

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reginos:

then RC will come home in train,i will keep the Turbo S and Suzy hahahahhaha (i'm joking)

Be careful not to end up with RC yourself, and Suzy to run away with the Turbo S

Smiley

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Oct 12, 2013 9:56:50 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: RC

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RC:

Mr. Müller had a 991 GT3 as his primary "work" car for quite some while. Now he drives a 991 Turbo S (and of course he can drive whatever Porsche has to offer too). I thought it is worth mentioning.

The "fitting" of a manual gearbox for a "special model" he mentioned could prove to be a challenge (AWS and electr. diff. and all) but if they build one, I would expect a price tag over 200k EUR, so I guess it wouldn't matter.

I think it will be an excuse for a limited model with manual gearbox, less technology and little lighter (a/c, PCM out, plastic windows etc) selling at an inflated price.

For those who think that "less is more" and have cash to spare.

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Oct 12, 2013 10:37:30 AM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5884, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: reginos

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Porsche 991 GT3: On the Road / Exhaust Sound...

Porsche 991 GT3: On the Road / Exhaust Sound -- Video Link

Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Oct 12, 2013 4:16:51 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14171, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

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What a sound !! The GT3 is visceral and that makes it so much special compared to any other 911

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Oct 12, 2013 4:39:15 PM

moo: Junior; Loc: uk , United Kingdom; Posts: 107, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 23, 2013; Reply to: Gnil

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Gnil:

What a sound !! The GT3 is visceral and that makes it so much special compared to any other 911

...until our GT3 RS's come along.... ::::))))

peter

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Oct 12, 2013 4:48:27 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14171, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: moo

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

moo:

Gnil:

What a sound !! The GT3 is visceral and that makes it so much special compared to any other 911

...until our GT3 RS's come along.... ::::))))

peter

can't wait ........ with the titanium exhaust : ))))))

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Oct 12, 2013 5:00:56 PM

AAHTT: Senior; Loc: san diego , United States; Posts: 654, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 21, 2006; Reply to: Super Darius

Re: OFFICIAL: New 911 GT3 (991)

Super Darius:

i'm officially on the list for an RS from....today.

but i don't know nothing about it...so RC,make something for me/us.

excellent choice Dario, congrats kiss

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