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I received some confirmation today on the question of a turbo on the "S". Apparently this is correct. So in the US the initial models will be a bi-turbo 3.0 six "S" and a bi-turbo 3.6 six "Turbo", available in May. The base model turbo 4 and diesel will not come out until 2015.
GM Austin:
I received some confirmation today on the question of a turbo on the "S". Apparently this is correct. So in the US the initial models will be a bi-turbo 3.0 six "S" and a bi-turbo 3.6 six "Turbo", available in May. The base model turbo 4 and diesel will not come out until 2015.
I really wonder where that 3.6 turbo will be derived from: a souped up version of the 3.0 turbo i guess.... 
....and the next question would be about power: if the 3.0 is good for 420 hp a 3.6 shoukd be good for 480-500 hp. Seems a bit of an exaggeration in a little Macan. Unless: the 3.6 turbo will be a repalcement for all Porsche 4.8 turbo engines in Cayenne and Panamera and the Macan happens to be the first model to get that. The next cars to use that lighter engine will be the successors for the current Cayenne and Panamera.
Looking at the general downsizing trend that could make sense! 
turbolite
turbolite:
GM Austin:
I received some confirmation today on the question of a turbo on the "S". Apparently this is correct. So in the US the initial models will be a bi-turbo 3.0 six "S" and a bi-turbo 3.6 six "Turbo", available in May. The base model turbo 4 and diesel will not come out until 2015.
I really wonder where that 3.6 turbo will be derived from: a souped up version of the 3.0 turbo i guess....
....and the next question would be about power: if the 3.0 is good for 420 hp a 3.6 shoukd be good for 480-500 hp. Seems a bit of an exaggeration in a little Macan. Unless: the 3.6 turbo will be a repalcement for all Porsche 4.8 turbo engines in Cayenne and Panamera and the Macan happens to be the first model to get that. The next cars to use that lighter engine will be the successors for the current Cayenne and Panamera.
Looking at the general downsizing trend that could make sense!
I think those power figures will be less in the Macan with the 3.0 well under 400, maybe even 350 or less, and the 3.6 producing around 400. The tuning of these powerplants will be toward fuel economy, possibly with taller axle ratios too for lower RPM cruising. That's my thought anyway.
Oct 6, 2013 5:13:46 AM
GM Austin:
turbolite:
GM Austin:
I received some confirmation today on the question of a turbo on the "S". Apparently this is correct. So in the US the initial models will be a bi-turbo 3.0 six "S" and a bi-turbo 3.6 six "Turbo", available in May. The base model turbo 4 and diesel will not come out until 2015.
I really wonder where that 3.6 turbo will be derived from: a souped up version of the 3.0 turbo i guess....
....and the next question would be about power: if the 3.0 is good for 420 hp a 3.6 shoukd be good for 480-500 hp. Seems a bit of an exaggeration in a little Macan. Unless: the 3.6 turbo will be a repalcement for all Porsche 4.8 turbo engines in Cayenne and Panamera and the Macan happens to be the first model to get that. The next cars to use that lighter engine will be the successors for the current Cayenne and Panamera.
Looking at the general downsizing trend that could make sense!
I think those power figures will be less in the Macan with the 3.0 well under 400, maybe even 350 or less, and the 3.6 producing around 400. The tuning of these powerplants will be toward fuel economy, possibly with taller axle ratios too for lower RPM cruising. That's my thought anyway.
Don't forget that Porsche won't allow the Macan to step on the Cayenne's toes when it comes to performance the same way it does with the Boxster/Cayman and 911. If anything the Macan Turbo's final power figure should lie somewhere between the Cayenne S and Cayenne Turbo, perhaps on par with the current Cayenne GTS.
Porsche already uses a detuned version of the 3.0L bi-turbo in the base Panameras sold in China; they have a power output of 320 hp compared to the 420 hp in the S models, so I'm expecting the final power to hover around there.
rulesdontapply
2008 Porsche Boxster S PDE2
2012 Porsche Cayenne S
Oct 6, 2013 6:02:10 AM
Oct 6, 2013 9:25:24 AM
Boxster Coupe GTS:
RC:
Guys, they cannot make the RS Q3 as attractive as the Q5 version.
The oddities are there for a reason.
It will be interesting to see how an Audi RS Q5 five-cylinder turbo compares to a Porsche Macan six-cylinder turbo...
i dont think that will come.... we already have the SQ5 at 360 hp, so i dont think they will apply the RS treatment to the Q5. I actually remember reading the interview of an Audi engineer who mentioned that the only reason they did the rsq3 was that it was easy and cheap to do and therefore that will probably remain the only Q in RS form....
turbolite
Oct 6, 2013 10:12:35 AM
turbolite:
Boxster Coupe GTS:
RC:
Guys, they cannot make the RS Q3 as attractive as the Q5 version.
It will be interesting to see how an Audi RS Q5 five-cylinder turbo compares to a Porsche Macan six-cylinder turbo...
i dont think that will come.... we already have the SQ5 at 360 hp, so i dont think they will apply the RS treatment to the Q5. I actually remember reading the interview of an Audi engineer who mentioned that the only reason they did the rsq3 was that it was easy and cheap to do and therefore that will probably remain the only Q in RS form....
Don't think so, I read somewhere about Audi planning an RS version of their forthcoming Q8 to take the fight to the X6M.
rulesdontapply
2008 Porsche Boxster S PDE2
2012 Porsche Cayenne S
Oct 6, 2013 11:33:10 AM
rulesdontapply:
turbolite:
Boxster Coupe GTS:
RC:
Guys, they cannot make the RS Q3 as attractive as the Q5 version.
It will be interesting to see how an Audi RS Q5 five-cylinder turbo compares to a Porsche Macan six-cylinder turbo...
i dont think that will come.... we already have the SQ5 at 360 hp, so i dont think they will apply the RS treatment to the Q5. I actually remember reading the interview of an Audi engineer who mentioned that the only reason they did the rsq3 was that it was easy and cheap to do and therefore that will probably remain the only Q in RS form....
Don't think so, I read somewhere about Audi planning an RS version of their forthcoming Q8 to take the fight to the X6M.
It is also worth keeping in mind that the 2.5-litre five-cylinder turbo engine in the next Audi RS3 is rumoured to generate around 400 hp...
Oct 8, 2013 8:57:07 PM
There will be some further information on the Porsche Macan released on Wednesday 9th October 2013...
Autocar magazine 9 October preview:
"...our first opportunity to ride in the new Porsche Macan. Embargo restrictions mean we can't give any details away regarding the Range Rover Evoque rival, but with the car set to be the biggest-selling Porsche in the future anticipation is high."
...thanks to Autocar magazine! 
Oct 8, 2013 9:17:18 PM
Oct 8, 2013 11:31:27 PM
Oct 9, 2013 3:25:37 AM
New Porsche Macan 4x4 - First Ride...
The Macan, Porsche’s new junior SUV, impresses with its road and off-road ability on a ride with its test team...
(9 October 2013)
New Porsche Macan 4x4 - First Ride - Autocar link
Oct 9, 2013 5:28:42 AM
Enmanuel:
Boxster Coupe GTS:
But in all seriousness, this is sexy.
Oh wow. The Porsche design language works much better on a smaller vehicle and this little thing looks the part of a Porsche.
The review is glowing; looks like we have a winner already. And yes, by the looks of it so far... the Cayenne S will be sent off for a Macan Turbo in its place.
rulesdontapply
2008 Porsche Boxster S PDE2
2012 Porsche Cayenne S
Oct 9, 2013 5:55:41 AM
Oct 9, 2013 6:21:12 AM
A few short facts (according to rumors):
1. Porsche threw out the Audi AWD because they weren't happy with the dynamic results. They added their own hang-on system which provides impressive dynamics.
2. Audi claimed that there is no room for a bi-turbo V6 in the engine bay, Porsche proved them wrong. The Turbo is rumored to get a 400 hp bi-turbo charged V6 engine. The Macan S also gets a V6, natural aspirated or supercharged (confusing information here).
3. In Germany, Porsche will offer three models from the start: The Turbo, the S and a Diesel with aprox. 250 hp. The 4-cyl. Diesel comes later, there is also the possibility of a 4-cyl. petrol engine (turbo charged).
4. AWD system, engines and interior are from Porsche. Yes, some engines may be based on their Audi tier but they have been heavily modified.
Bottom line is: The Macan is not a re-badged Audi.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)
RC:
2. Audi claimed that there is no room for a V6 in the engine bay, Porsche proved them wrong. The Turbo is rumored to get a 400 hp bi-turbo charged V6 engine. The Macan S also gets a V6, natural aspirated or supercharged (confusing information here).
Hmm... Audi Q5 have following V6 engines:
-3.0TDI with 250ps
-3.0TDI with 313ps
-3.0TFSI with 290ps
Rest is true, Macan is mid distance Q5 relative.
bridggar:
Clamshell bonnet was a surprise.
Indeed! Was not expecting that and completely missed any hint of it in the previous spy photos. In these photos I can now see the painted on conventional hood cut line.
Great review. Very encouraging. I think I'm getting an S and taking it to Utah right away for some off-road testing. 
RC:
A few short facts (according to rumors):
2. Audi claimed that there is no room for a bi-turbo V6 in the engine bay, Porsche proved them wrong. The Turbo is rumored to get a 400 hp bi-turbo charged V6 engine. The Macan S also gets a V6, natural aspirated or supercharged (confusing information here).
When did Audi claim that? The SQ5 has a Bi-turbo V6 engine 
Bottom line is: The Macan is not a re-badged Audi.
Which wouldn't be a shame anyways. The Q5 already is the best SUV in its class (overall). Macan can only be better.
I've traded my SQ5 in but now I get some doubts... Should I have kept it for another year and trade it for a Macan....? 
Maybe I was too impatient.
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Suzy
Another first ride review, this time from Motor Trend:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1310_2015_porsche_macan_first_ride/
There were three versions of the Macan on our trip: the S trim, the top-of-the-line Turbo, and the world-market Diesel. When I asked if the diesel model would eventually be sold in the U.S., the U.S. product reps and Porsche engineers frequently answered, "What do you think?" Engelman noted that 30 percent of Cayenne sales are currently diesels, indicating a strong possibility and willingness to sell the diesel model Stateside.
Although Porsche had access to the Volkswagen corporate parts bin to use as much or as little of the Audi Q5 as it wanted, the Macan is about 80 percent new and different than the Q5, including unique gasoline powertrains, unique sheetmetal, and some pretty substantial structural and chassis differences, including the positioning and design of the front dash crossmember.
The Macan is a niche product at a premium price, and it is definitely not for those customers choosing a crossover strictly on the basis of utility or practicality. Even for those seeking a status nameplate, the Q5, BMW X3, Mercedes-Benz GLK, or even Range Rover Evoque are probably more suitable for those who simply want to impress their non-enthusiast, status-conscious friends. But for those who appreciate Porsche's performance heritage and mystique and want a compact crossover, the Macan sacrifices little in terms of driving enjoyment and the Porsche experience in exchange for a measure of utility.
Oct 9, 2013 1:47:14 PM
My PCNA contact confirmed (without confirming) a 2.0 litre gas engine, The S will be the V6 mentioned (wouldn't say if turbo or not) and the S would cost in the low $60k's in Canada.
In customers hands by late April.
Past-President, Porsche Club of America - Upper Canada Region
This is going to be a great car! perfect alternative for the ones who want to have one (family-)practical car with a sporty appeal (in a way that the Cayenne as truck will never have).
I love the fact that the S is also a turbo engine, probafly that one will already have very nice grunt! The Turbo will be a bombshell with the new 3.6 liter turbo engine.... 
So, now let's hope for a decent price here in Europe...
PS : given that the new biturbo engine is a 3.6 liter biturbo like the 996 turbo was, i believe that the same 420 HP like the 996 had would be a perfect fit!!! 
turbolite
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