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    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Well,

    the pimp image continues in the dealers.  I 0rdered 3 vettes last march, and   In june rick hendrick chevroletvtried to jack me for $5k per car over window.  I told them to fk off and disputed their deposits on amex

    ohhhhh ho ho a weeks ago, they leave a message theyll deilver all 3 at window

    they suck

    gm sucks

    i remember my zo6 my only corvette.  I sold it At 5 k so i wouldnt have to go to a GM dealer... For an oil change

    the whole experience sux

     

     


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Not sure if you are joking...half of it sounds true, the other half... 

    Too much sun in the 991 Carrera S Cab? 

    Joking aside, I think that GM should really do something about the image of the Corvette and other US cars in Europe. Right now, it seems that they are only selling lower end Chevrolets (specifically made for the Euro market), which is a pity.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Sept. 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Im not joking and its all true.

     I had dinner last night w a ex GM engineer.  He said they all worked their friends in production scheduling to make sure their vettes were not built on mondays or fridays, the quality being 60 percent of the sober days.

    government motors means a govt product.  We laughed last night about the quality problems the first year cars will have.

    not withstanding, if the dealer had not jacked me on price i would have taken delivery.  At least for a little pricing pressure on porsche...


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Watt, the don't buy cars built Monday or Friday may have been true 20 years ago but not today. GM is getting good quality reviews.


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    I don't know, the new vette looks good on the outside, it looks really high quality. While I haven't seen one in person yet, from press photos I can already tell the beauty is only skin deep. It still has sub par plastic inside, a grade of plastic  that's not even fit for making trash cans. The leather is probably a couple grade below the Korean makers also. 

    When the car has to be made to a tight price point, something has to give because of high labour cost, and the interior is still the favourite cutting spot for the accountants. 


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    I saw one in LeMans and it looks really nice - and I am not into Corvettes....

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    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Nick,

    when you buy one let us know how the quality is, how your wife likes it and how it goes over in LaJolla Smiley.  Im just glad i got my deposits back.  

    More than one guy here says he really likes it but... Hes not into corvettes or would never buy one.  Its kinda like the GTR problem only worseSmiley  i keep looking at the numbers which look great.... But the brand aura karma dharma fllarma and yuma just not quite... ThereSmiley  although the Gtr is remarkable. 


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Whoopsy:

    I don't know, the new vette looks good on the outside, it looks really high quality. While I haven't seen one in person yet, from press photos I can already tell the beauty is only skin deep. It still has sub par plastic inside, a grade of plastic  that's not even fit for making trash cans. The leather is probably a couple grade below the Korean makers also. 

    When the car has to be made to a tight price point, something has to give because of high labour cost, and the interior is still the favourite cutting spot for the accountants. 

    This is something I actually really noticed: When I rented two Corvette Convertibles for some casual fun during our LV trip, I noticed the nice body of the car, the nice sounding (and feeling) engine but the absolutely CHEAP plastic interior, absolutely incredible. Not even low class japanese cars have such a bad interior, how come??? Smiley How much can it cost to improve the interior quality? 50 bucks? 100 bucks? Talking materials here, not necessarily looks.

    This seems generally to be a problem of US cars: Our Cadillac Escalade...same thing. Horrible interior. I won't even start with the drive feel and chassis setup, no wonder BMW and Mercedes have gained that much in the SUV segment in the US.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S (Sept. 2013), Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Very true RC. The US are starting to catch up though. The latest Chrysler 300 are not bad. US SUV still ride pretty bad.


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Looks like the next Z06 will instead be a Z07 with Twin Turbo V-8 power and standard carbon brakes.  600hp for under $100k.

    Sort of the 991 Turbo S of Chevy...

    http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/02/corvette-z06-renamed-z07-twin-turbo-v8/


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    watt:

    Nick,

    when you buy one let us know how the quality is, how your wife likes it and how it goes over in LaJolla Smiley.  Im just glad i got my deposits back.  

    More than one guy here says he really likes it but... Hes not into corvettes or would never buy one.  Its kinda like the GTR problem only worseSmiley  i keep looking at the numbers which look great.... But the brand aura karma dharma fllarma and yuma just not quite... ThereSmiley  although the Gtr is remarkable. 

    Watt, what made you order the three Corvettes? I understand your reasons for canceling but ordering in the first place is a mystery.Smiley

    BTW, I doubt Corvettes will go over well in Malibu. Wyoming maybe.Smiley


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    C4S better driver's car than the C7 and F12... :)

    http://youtu.be/q6y7oeZx9WY


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    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    When watching the videos of the C7 and 991 - I am struck by the relatively sloppy body control of the 'Vette.  Nosedive, body roll..  just looks sloppy - albeit very fast.  Can't think of a Porsche buyer that doesn't appreciate finesse.


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Keep in mind there was about a $100,000 difference in the two cars tested. Guess which was the more expensive car.Smiley


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Omg, the sound of the V12 ...


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    TomSilver:

    Omg, the sound of the V12 ...

    Just think, for a measly $434,000 you can have that sound.Smiley


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    If I'm a Ferrari engineer, I'm red in the face. $434K car with 300hp more and what should be the most cutting edge tech, and it's barely quicker than my mom's Corvette. Who cares if it's a GT car? So is the Corvette and Porsche. Hell, the Corvette and Porsche are several times the GT car the Ferrari is.

    Pathetic if you ask me. Most of your money simply pays for a prancing horse logo these days.


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Simply physics, no matter how good a traction control system is, 731hp is way too much for rwd only and on street tires.

    The F12 will be a lot quick had it got a properly calibrated awd system like the Turbo or Turbo S.


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    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    What about the FF then?


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    Leaving performance aside: I saw the new Corvette in Miami and were kind of disappointed. Don't know why but the car didn't really "please" me visually. Weird.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: First Test New Corvette vs 991S

    I saw for the first time  one on Sunset yesterday heading inti the office in BH.  One glance and I was right very right to cancel my orders.  the look is too low end and Batmanesque, actually more Robin,laugh for me

     

    also Nick, i forgot to answer your question why I ordered three, i was going to send 2 coupe to NZ and sell, and keep the drop top, but my local marketing team said send P and F's from the UK instead as much more saleable


     
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