Misha011:
Basically the whole car is still MK1 and I have a problem to accept this sharp / edgy parts ( headlights , rear bumper ... ) on overall soft and curved shape .
The rear looks very "soft", this was what I meant, I don't think that the Panamera looks better like that. Maybe the design is "cleaner" now but in my opinion in a disadvantage for the overall Panamera design.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (ordered), BMW X3 35d (2013)
May 25, 2013 4:25:45 PM
SportCarGroup:
Misha011:
Do I miss something? There is some difference in these two, except contrast?
With Misha01 the game is always to spot 7 differences But on this particular one there is only 1 , and it is not the contrast !
997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm
May 25, 2013 6:46:11 PM
Jun 1, 2013 1:22:32 PM
.. does not look good on theses pics and it's difficult to separate it from the pre-FL. It's really weird regards to colours. I was a former fan of black on most cars, but nowadays I prefer lighter colors and different shades of grey or silver in any form.
Lukas:
.. does not look good on theses pics and it's difficult to separate it from the pre-FL. It's really weird regards to colours. I was a former fan of black on most cars, but nowadays I prefer lighter colors and different shades of grey or silver in any form.
Interesting. I've just had the opposite experience.
I just configured and ordered a 2014 Panamera Turbo here in the USA for delivery in September. I was considering Agate or Carbon grey instead of my current car's gloss black. After looking at quite a few examples of Agate and Carbon Panameras in local dealerships and on the street during a trip to Chicago, my wife and I decided that Black just looked better, particularly at night.
To each his own
Mike
Carrera GT + Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S + Panamera Turbo + BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T + GT3 RS 4.0
Porsche and Mercedes look good in silver
Audi in white and BMW is shades of blue and grey.
I don't know if these colour choices relates to my subconscious perception of the various car marques that was formed over the years
Black only looks good on limousines, provided that it is brilliant black (not some sort of black with multi-colour undertones) and it is contrasted with lots of shiny chrome. It also looked good on 911s up to the 964 model, particularly on the classic Turbo models. Car surfacing is so elaborate and interesting nowadays (due to design and the capabilities of modern body panel stamping) that it is a pity to camouflage it all with a black body colour. Black is a disguise colour, hence the black developmet cars in spy pictures.
"Form follows function"
Jun 9, 2013 11:32:41 AM
http://www.porsche.com/germany/models/panamera/panamera/gallery/?gtabindex=3
The catalogue has now been online for a few days... But it's only in German. I've tried the Porsche Middle East/UK/USA/Australia sites and none of them even have the "Brochure" or "Catalogue" tabs, so not sure where to get an English pdf.
rulesdontapply
2008 Porsche Boxster S PDE2
2012 Porsche Cayenne S
Saw another Panamera facelift today, a dark colored (black?) car with LB-PF license plate.
I had to look twice to see the difference, again. Good for owners of the "old" car.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th), BMW X3 35d (2013)
RC:
Saw another Panamera facelift today, a dark colored (black?) car with LB-PF license plate.
I had to look twice to see the difference, again. Good for owners of the "old" car.
Styling changes are subtle and need a light colour to stand out, like white or silver. It is a facelift anyway, not a new model, but in the right direction.
"Form follows function"
reginos:
RC:
Saw another Panamera facelift today, a dark colored (black?) car with LB-PF license plate.
I had to look twice to see the difference, again. Good for owners of the "old" car.
Styling changes are subtle and need a light colour to stand out, like white or silver. It is a facelift anyway, not a new model, but in the right direction.
Just wanted to point out that owners of the "old" Panamera actually have no real incentive to "switch" since the facelift is pretty subtle in my opinion.
Regarding the larger PCM unit: I am disappointed too, especially since there was a rumor about testing a larger display but apparently Porsche limited the facelift because 2015 could already be the year of the next generation.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th), BMW X3 35d (2013)
keithos27:
Historically in other models has a new generation come out two years after a facelift?
The next gen Panamera is rumored to be based on a different platform, this is why the next gen may come earlier than expected (2015). This is of course...as always...a rumor.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th), BMW X3 35d (2013)
keithos27:
Understood.. but then waiting for a Turbo S that may not show until 2016 at the earliest, right? Again, all speculation...
If you mean the next gen Turbo S? Well...I kind of got the feeling that Porsche will adapt the 911 Turbo/Turbo S strategy to the Cayenne and Panamera too.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th), BMW X3 35d (2013)
keithos27:
Argh the age old question of get now vs. get the next gen.... lol
I usually don't wait for a facelift but I would wait for a next generation. This is what I did with the 991 Turbo. I could have switched from my former 997 Turbo pre-facelift to a 997 Turbo S facelift (which is a much better car) but I decided to wait for the next gen 991 Turbo/Turbo S or get something else (got the Panamera Turbo S, which will go end of this month).
I know it is a difficult decision but if you want to buy, maybe you should wait. If you want to lease, get a 2-3 year lease for a facelift model and be done with it.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, Cayenne GTS (958), 991 Turbo S (Oct. 5th), BMW X3 35d (2013)