2000 mile break-in done hooray! (pics warning)
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'13 991S - Plat/Silver-PDK-PDCC-SPASM-SC-PSE-CS whl/plat
'13 991S - Plat/Silver-PDK-PDCC-SPASM-SC-PSE-CS whl/plat
Beau-ti-ful Haku. I can only imagine how much fun you had going through the gears and letting the PDK do the work. Do you see many cops where you live? Here in southern California they were everywhere today, and I had to be very cautious. Hopefully there will be many more beautiful days so you can drive and post more photos!
If I don't fly, I drive my .:RS
The PDK in this generation os so much better than on the 997.2 that I had. I hated it on that car so much that I switched to a 997.2 GT3 just after 3 months!
We have very few police around here. Although we are in rural and sparsely populated countryside, like most I do respect traffic limits around any habitation and farms.
We are very lucky to have incredible driving roads here... but then again you have some great ones in California too.
'13 991S - Plat/Silver-PDK-PDCC-SPASM-SC-PSE-CS whl/plat
Jan 20, 2013 3:55:41 PM
Jan 21, 2013 2:29:33 AM
Haku - congrats on the 'perfect drive' and the great pics...
Could you please enlarge upon the improvement you find between PDK on your current 991 and that on your previous 997.2?
Thank you very much in advance....
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."
John H:
Haku - congrats on the 'perfect drive' and the great pics...
Could you please enlarge upon the improvement you find between PDK on your current 991 and that on your previous 997.2?
Thank you very much in advance....
Thank you all for your comments.
John, I'll try to explain without going into the technicalities of the PDK system which I'm not super hot on anyway.
The primary difference I've found is that it feels far more responsive and connected to the overall "driving experience" that one expects and may be used to on a 911. My experience (which may be different to others) of the 997.2 PDK was of it being a far more subdued gearing feel....it felt like driving an automatic or tiptronic. There was a noticeable delay or lag upon shifting which just felt odd, uncomfortable, and mainly uninspiring.
With the addition of all the suspension and engine related changes that Porsche have made on the 991S, the PDK just feels far more in tune with the 911 experience that I love. In normal mode the gear shifts are instant and precise. In the other Sports modes especially in Sport Plus the shifts are crisp , deliberate, and for the most part driver input responsive rather than just automatic shifting. There is also a degree of harshness that I missed before... a much better feeling of something being raw. I love it. I don't think the current PDK feel is perfect but its a huge huge improvement over its predecessor. I had my doubts when I went for it this time around but I'm happy with my choice.
I'm waiting to see what the much rumoured about GT3 PDK will be like. I know there are those who just don't like the idea of PDK on a GT3 but I think it'll be special and am looking forward to it. Time will tell.
'13 991S - Plat/Silver-PDK-PDCC-SPASM-SC-PSE-CS whl/plat
Jan 22, 2013 7:49:47 PM
Many thanks Haku for your reply.
I've heard other 997.2 PDK owners complain of the experiences you describe. I don't have any of those issues with my 997 GTS. I've been wondering if Porsche changed the PDK set-up, for my car, together with the engine and suspension mods they introduced with the GTS?
During my first service, which I had last week, two software updates were installed and the result is an even more enjoyable PDK experience, together with an even smoother all-round drive...
Sorry if I've hi-jacked your thread, but I would really recommend those software updates to any 997.2 owners who haven't yet had them done...
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."
John H:I would really recommend those software updates to any 997.2 owners who haven't yet had them done...
Mine was serviced last September - I'll ask the dealer if these updates were done
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John H:
Many thanks Haku for your reply.
I've heard other 997.2 PDK owners complain of the experiences you describe. I don't have any of those issues with my 997 GTS. I've been wondering if Porsche changed the PDK set-up, for my car, together with the engine and suspension mods they introduced with the GTS?
During my first service, which I had last week, two software updates were installed and the result is an even more enjoyable PDK experience, together with an even smoother all-round drive...
Sorry if I've hi-jacked your thread, but I would really recommend those software updates to any 997.2 owners who haven't yet had them done...
John, I think there were significant changes on the PDK setup for the 997.2 GTS. Mine was a C4S and I really did not enjoy it.
'13 991S - Plat/Silver-PDK-PDCC-SPASM-SC-PSE-CS whl/plat
Haku:
John, I think there were significant changes on the PDK setup for the 997.2 GTS.
Haku - I think you may well be right, but no way of knowing for sure...
Bottom line... I'm really pleased that you're totally happy with your 991 and wish you many enjoyable miles with this remarkable and beautiful machine...
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."
John H:
Many thanks Haku for your reply.
I've heard other 997.2 PDK owners complain of the experiences you describe. I don't have any of those issues with my 997 GTS. I've been wondering if Porsche changed the PDK set-up, for my car, together with the engine and suspension mods they introduced with the GTS?
During my first service, which I had last week, two software updates were installed and the result is an even more enjoyable PDK experience, together with an even smoother all-round drive...
Sorry if I've hi-jacked your thread, but I would really recommend those software updates to any 997.2 owners who haven't yet had them done...
I am with you John. I am experiencing none of the issues mentioned by other Rennteamers. I can only compare it to the PDK Cayman I had before where the Sport mode was so jerky I hardly used it. The GTS on the other is always driven in Sport mode. I will get the upgrades done soon
I also do not have these complaints about PDK ( other's I might ) and I have one of the very first batch of PDK ( my car was the first PDK in this area ) . When I test drove the 991 PDK I did not feel that much of a difference in the gear box, but maybe I missed something as I test drove it only 90 min
997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm
I think the PDK impressions (both perceptive and physical) on the 991 are to do with a combination of PDK software and overall changes to the model that Porsche have made. We all know the car drives quite differently to the 997's. My experience of the previous generation of PDK (997.2 C4S) was hugely influenced by the vast change I noticed in the reduced amount of "driver involvement" that I had enjoyed in all my prior P cars which were manual trannys.
I'm sure that so much is about personal impressions and we know that varies from person to person. I do feel that for me the 991S with the right options have resulted in a better "PDK experience" than before. Thankfully I'm super happy with the 991S PDK and its been a night and day difference between it and my 997.2 C4S. It would have an expensive fix otherwise!
Lets see what the GT3 offerings are like... rumors are that it will be PDK!
'13 991S - Plat/Silver-PDK-PDCC-SPASM-SC-PSE-CS whl/plat
Hey Haku. You always post amazing pics of your beautiful car . Hope you always enjoy it in good health. Is SPASM bothering you at all? I ordered my car with SPASM so still waiting patiently. Every time I see pics with SPASM I worry about scratching the front lip
@Haku: I am glad you are enjoying your 991 so much. Who wouldn't?
As to the 997.2 PDK, my car was produced in 12/2008, i.e. one of the earlier PDK cars, and I have none of the issues you describe. It adapts very quickly to driving style and I enjoy it either in M or D in all 3 modes. The OPC did some updates the first one a few months after the car was purchased. Actually the engine/transmission get better and better in terms of refinement and performance as the kilometers add up.
"Form follows function"
OG911:
Hey Haku. You always post amazing pics of your beautiful car . Hope you always enjoy it in good health. Is SPASM bothering you at all? I ordered my car with SPASM so still waiting patiently. Every time I see pics with SPASM I worry about scratching the front lip
Thank you OG.
SPASM is no bother at all and I would recommend it without any reservations. I've only scrapped the lip a couple of times and it is not even noticeable. Its cheap and easy enough to replace even if one damages it badly (which would take a lot to do).
Enjoy your car when it arrives and I'm sure you'll be super happy with it.
'13 991S - Plat/Silver-PDK-PDCC-SPASM-SC-PSE-CS whl/plat
Am approaching a year and 11k miles with SPASM. The spoiler is still there; some scuffs invisibleon the underside. I popped it off once backing down a steep incline driveway, and popped it right back on. Very easy to avoid a repeat. There is greater clearance than my prior car (Boxter S RS-60); the ride is supple, and not harsh even in Sport Plus. The handling, feel and stance are "just right". For what you get and how well it all works together on the street or track- It is a bargain option.