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2014 Porsche 911 RSR to debut in Bahrain...

Why would Falken not have the 2014 updates? The updates (assuming that they work) are for the 2014 customer cars, which is not what Porsche have been racing up until now.

Falken have confirmed that they will be running the 2014-spec Porsche 911 RSR...

@FalkenTire will you have the 2014 updates which Porsche will be debuting in Bahrain this weekend?

Falken Tire: Yes, it will be a brand new 2014 Porsche RSR

FIA World Endurance Championship, round 8 in Sakhir/Bahrain, Preview

 

 

Exhilarating season finale in the desert

 

On the Bahrain International Circuit, this year’s sports car World Endurance Championship season concludes on 30 November. It marks the first race for the further-developed Porsche 911 RSR. The Porsche AG Team Manthey squad fields the GT racer from Weissach on the Formula 1 circuit in the desert featuring modifications that will be employed for the 2014 motorsport season.

 

The Porsche drivers

 

The Porsche works pilots and Le Mans winners Marc Lieb and Richard Lietz tackle the last race of the season in the 911 RSR with the number 92. In the fight for the World Endurance Cup for GT drivers, the pair currently ranks third. Their factory driver colleagues Joerg Bergmeister (Germany) and Patrick Pilet (France), who recently clinched their fourth podium result of the season in Shanghai, share the cockpit of the number 91 Porsche 911 RSR in the GTE-Pro class. In the GTE-Am class, Frenchmen Raymond Narac and Jean-Karl Vernay are still within striking distance of taking home the FIA Endurance Trophy. The Le Mans winners compete for IMSA Performance Matmut with the 911 GT3 RSR from last year, joined by Markus Palttala (Finland). Proton Competition fields a 911 GT3 RSR with team owner Christian Ried (Germany) and his Italian teammates Paolo Ruberti and Gianluca Roda.

 

The Porsche 911 RSR

 

The 470 hp Porsche 911 RSR is based on the seventh generation of the iconic 911 sports car. As the successor to the winning 911 GT3 RSR, with which Porsche customers scored many victories and title wins since 2004 in international endurance championships, it is characterised by its consequent lightweight design and sophisticated aerodynamics. The look is dominated by the flared fenders and the distinctive cooling air intakes at the front. The exceptional vehicle styling honours the anniversary “50 years of the 911”.

 

The schedule

 

The six-hour race on the Bahrain International Circuit starts on 30 November at 15.00 hours local time (13.00 CET). Eurosport 2 broadcasts the race live from 18.00 to 19.00 CET live. Eurosport International televises highlights at 21.30 CET. The race can be viewed live on the internet website www.fiawec.com.

 

Quotes before the race

 

Hartmut Kristen, Porsche Head of Motorsport:

 

“An exciting WEC season draws to a close in Bahrain. It was the first for the new 911 RSR which immediately followed on from Porsche’s great long distance successes with a terrific double victory in the GTE-Pro class at the Le Mans 24 Hours. In Bahrain, the 911 RSR lines up in the spec homologated for 2014. This means that the season final will be an important test for us under competition conditions, and it will undoubtedly produce some interesting information with regard to next season.”

 

Joerg Bergmeister (# 91):

 

“I’ve never been to Bahrain. We’re racing there for the first time with our 2014-spec Evo-Kit which will certainly be a very interesting experience. I hope we take a step forward.”

 

Patrick Pilet (# 91):

 

“Bahrain is the fourth new circuit for me this season, after Sao Paulo, Austin and Shanghai. The temperatures there ensure that it’ll be a heated battle in the truest sense of the word. This means we’ll need to prepare the car perfectly – not to mention the drivers and teams, as well.”

 

Marc Lieb (# 92):

 

“The fact that we’re driving our 2014-spec car in Bahrain for the first time makes it a very special race for us. I’m confident that we’ll do well there and manage to wind up the season successfully.” 

 

Richard Lietz (# 92):

 

“I hope that the improvements we’ve made on our car for Bahrain have a positive effect and things go better for us than they have at the last few races. The track is great and I’m looking forward to an interesting season finale.”

 

The Sports Car World Endurance Championship WEC

 

In the sports car World Endurance Championship WEC, sports prototypes and GT vehicles start in four classes: LMGTE-Pro, LMGTE-Am, LMP1 and LMP2. They all compete together in one race but are classified separately. 

 

FIA World Endurance Championship - Round 8 - Porsche Press Release

 

...has anyone on Rennteam seen details of the 2014 Porsche 911 RSR specifications? 

 

Hm,

not yet but very curious. Just read that Mark Webber will take part in next year´s Bathurst 12hrs at the beginning of February. Guess that will be in the 991 RSR as well...

Ferdie:

Hm,

not yet but very curious. Just read that Mark Webber will take part in next year´s Bathurst 12hrs at the beginning of February. Guess that will be in the 991 RSR as well...

I think he tweeted that it would be the 2015 Bathurst, but I could be wrong.

Here is the 2014 RSR:http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/patrick-pilet-la-nouvelle-porsche-911-rsr-est-la-pour-preparer-2014/

Spyderidol:

Here is the 2014 RSR:http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/patrick-pilet-la-nouvelle-porsche-911-rsr-est-la-pour-preparer-2014/

...that 2014-spec Porsche 911 RSR looks awesome! 

Boxster Coupe GTS:

 

...that 2014-spec Porsche 911 RSR looks awesome! 

 really!!

997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS

TOYOTA STILL TOP OF TIME SHEETS AS PORSCHE HEADS GTE BATTLE...

(28 November 2013)

 

2nd and 4th in FP3. All of the GTE -Pro cars except for one went below the 2 minute mark in FP3.

P1 and P2 in Quali! Congratulations Porsche!

Spyderidol:

P1 and P2 in Quali! Congratulations Porsche!

Great,i will see it tomorrow on Eurosport 1 and 2 (only 1 hour and 45 minutes ...instead of 6 hours of race),but better than nothing..

997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS

You can watch it here. Enjoy!

Spyderidol:

You can watch it here. Enjoy!

Great,thanks!!

997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS

Spyderidol, do you know if 2014 spec RSR is running with a new motor or is it the same from 997 RSR? I keep hearing current updated only has 470hp and if this is true it won't be good when it races in the states because if I'm wrong the other like BMW , corvette and Ferrari had 500hp+. Again why can't RSR get the 500hp GT3 R motor? Anyhow I can't wait till 2014 like everyone else. 

Two Porsche 911 RSR lock out the first grid row...

FIA World Endurance Championship, round 8 in Bahrain, Qualifying

 

PORSCHE CONFIRMS LM GTE PROGRAMME FOR 2014 FIA WEC...

996cal:

Spyderidol, do you know if 2014 spec RSR is running with a new motor or is it the same from 997 RSR? I keep hearing current updated only has 470hp and if this is true it won't be good when it races in the states because if I'm wrong the other like BMW , corvette and Ferrari had 500hp+. Again why can't RSR get the 500hp GT3 R motor? Anyhow I can't wait till 2014 like everyone else. 

I'm sorry for the late reply. The "new"car still uses the same engine (albeit with some updates from what I understand).

There will be no new engine until the rules change. (Expected 2015).

996cal:

Spyderidol, do you know if 2014 spec RSR is running with a new motor or is it the same from 997 RSR? I keep hearing current updated only has 470hp and if this is true it won't be good when it races in the states because if I'm wrong the other like BMW , corvette and Ferrari had 500hp+. Again why can't RSR get the 500hp GT3 R motor? Anyhow I can't wait till 2014 like everyone else. 

ferrari is currently breathing trough a straw, and has ~460 hp

mojeIme:

996cal:

Spyderidol, do you know if 2014 spec RSR is running with a new motor or is it the same from 997 RSR? I keep hearing current updated only has 470hp and if this is true it won't be good when it races in the states because if I'm wrong the other like BMW , corvette and Ferrari had 500hp+. Again why can't RSR get the 500hp GT3 R motor? Anyhow I can't wait till 2014 like everyone else. 

ferrari is currently breathing trough a straw, and has ~460 hp

Since these engines are fitted with air restrictors anyway it surely doesn't make much sense to tune them purely for the highest achievable peak power output, as that is generally gained at the expense of torque lower down in the rev range.  

fritz

fritz:

mojeIme:

996cal:

Spyderidol, do you know if 2014 spec RSR is running with a new motor or is it the same from 997 RSR? I keep hearing current updated only has 470hp and if this is true it won't be good when it races in the states because if I'm wrong the other like BMW , corvette and Ferrari had 500hp+. Again why can't RSR get the 500hp GT3 R motor? Anyhow I can't wait till 2014 like everyone else. 

ferrari is currently breathing trough a straw, and has ~460 hp

Since these engines are fitted with air restrictors anyway it surely doesn't make much sense to tune them purely for the highest achievable peak power output, as that is generally gained at the expense of torque lower down in the rev range.  

Your statment would hold true if the cars had anywhere neer the same restrictors, alas this is not the case..
The  ferrari is currently breathing through literaly a straw, while every other car in the field with the same (similar) engine capacity runs much greater restrictors..

mojeIme:

fritz:

mojeIme:

996cal:

Spyderidol, do you know if 2014 spec RSR is running with a new motor or is it the same from 997 RSR? I keep hearing current updated only has 470hp and if this is true it won't be good when it races in the states because if I'm wrong the other like BMW , corvette and Ferrari had 500hp+. Again why can't RSR get the 500hp GT3 R motor? Anyhow I can't wait till 2014 like everyone else. 

ferrari is currently breathing trough a straw, and has ~460 hp

Since these engines are fitted with air restrictors anyway it surely doesn't make much sense to tune them purely for the highest achievable peak power output, as that is generally gained at the expense of torque lower down in the rev range.  

Your statment would hold true if the cars had anywhere neer the same restrictors, alas this is not the case..
The  ferrari is currently breathing through literaly a straw, while every other car in the field with the same (similar) engine capacity runs much greater restrictors..

Which would suggest that Porsche has all along gone for a fuller torque curve instead of a peakier power curve, knowing that the latter strategy would be pointless in an homologation regime which focuses on capping maximum power output. 
You have to wonder why Ferrari doesn't do the same.     

fritz

They (Ferrari) have a bigger engine which I suspect has more torque...or a "fuller torque curve".

Spyderidol:

They (Ferrari) have a bigger engine which I suspect has more torque...or a "fuller torque curve".

That's what I thought too, but haven't bothered to check it. 

fritz

I don't mean to beat the dead horse so I'll just post once more../

Basicly what you are saying is that the engine playing field is level, Since I folowed the GTE pro racing series since it's inception back  in the 2000, I can assure you that it is not.. Here is why.
 

There is a set of rules that were in place designed to alow diffferent sized engines to race against each other, using restirictors.
not to get too much into it but basicly, a 0.5l inclrease in engine size means around a ~0.3mm reduction in the restrictors.

Ferrari runs a 4.5l engine and Porsche runs a 4l engine. meaning that the difference in the restrictors should be around 0.3mm, to give both cars similar engine performance... Through the balance of performance Porsche is currently running an 0.7mm increase over the perscribed 0.3mm giving it a lot more torque and horsepower then the Ferrari. (Aston martin is even worse..) Through the same balance of performance the porsche is 25kg ligher, and has 90l fuel tank, while the Ferrair has 85l.

Not to get too much into the politics of it, but basicly curently the rules are thrown out of the window, and we hava a mess with the balance of performance which is compleatly out of whack.

Without getting into this again. (and as you know, I'm not a BoP fan), but your argument assumes that the 0.3mm addition to the air restrictor for every 0.5L increase in engine capacity was correct to start off with. I put it to you that it was not. The original ACO calculations were off, and that is precisely why we have the current situation today. Lets not get into this again. Suffice it to say that we are both against BoP.

Hey all

i competed in that race and finished on the podium in am category. It was amazing. I was actually with AF for that one and must admit that the 458 is an awesome package. I only drove before the GT3 car which is ok but I prefer its 911 counterpart but the GTE is epic. Easier to drive than the 997 RSR for an AM like me and very quick indeed.  

I spent some time with the Porsche guys as my heart still beats for the 911 and yes, the 2014 (yet homologated as a 2013, smart move) was very quick, and most importantly seemed to wear its tyres better than the other GTs. 

2014 will be an exciting season. 

mojeIme:

I don't mean to beat the dead horse so I'll just post once more../

Basicly what you are saying is that the engine playing field is level, Since I folowed the GTE pro racing series since it's inception back  in the 2000, I can assure you that it is not.. Here is why.
 

There is a set of rules that were in place designed to alow diffferent sized engines to race against each other, using restirictors.
not to get too much into it but basicly, a 0.5l inclrease in engine size means around a ~0.3mm reduction in the restrictors.

Ferrari runs a 4.5l engine and Porsche runs a 4l engine. meaning that the difference in the restrictors should be around 0.3mm, to give both cars similar engine performance... Through the balance of performance Porsche is currently running an 0.7mm increase over the perscribed 0.3mm giving it a lot more torque and horsepower then the Ferrari. (Aston martin is even worse..) Through the same balance of performance the porsche is 25kg ligher, and has 90l fuel tank, while the Ferrair has 85l.

Not to get too much into the politics of it, but basicly curently the rules are thrown out of the window, and we hava a mess with the balance of performance which is compleatly out of whack.

 

And that's in GTE where at least there is a bit of a regulation. In GT3 it's a complete mess! No rules. And a bop that changes every other race. 

The Porsche was so slow this year. 

Futch:

Hey all

i competed in that race and finished on the podium in am category. It was amazing. I was actually with AF for that one and must admit that the 458 is an awesome package. I only drove before the GT3 car which is ok but I prefer its 911 counterpart but the GTE is epic. Easier to drive than the 997 RSR for an AM like me and very quick indeed.  

I spent some time with the Porsche guys as my heart still beats for the 911 and yes, the 2014 (yet homologated as a 2013, smart move) was very quick, and most importantly seemed to wear its tyres better than the other GTs. 

2014 will be an exciting season. 

 

Congratulations Futch! I followed the race and I must confess that I was a little sad to see you and Manu in a 458, It's good to know that your heart is still in the right place.

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