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Aug 30, 2012 10:57:15 PM

koko: Rennteam Pro; Loc: UAE , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 2753, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2004

458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

According to a recent report, the high-performance version of the Ferrari 458 will eschew the Scuderia name and adopt the Monte Carlo moniker.

The name change would be unfortunate, but the car will reportedly offer 620 PS (456 kW / 611 hp) which is 50 PS (37 kW / 49 hp) more than the standard model. We can also expect revised styling and weight saving measures, but the exact details remain elusive.

There's no word on when the car could be introduced, but the 458 Italia was unveiled in 2009 so a debut shouldn't be too far off.

Ferrari 458 Italia Sucderia Artists Rendering.

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Aug 30, 2012 11:10:56 PM

Heist: Rennteam Master; Loc: Washington, DC , United States; Posts: 4147, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2007; Reply to: koko

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

Also, this is going to be a quite interesting battle between Ferrari and McLaren. Each time F comes out with a higher output version of the 458, all McLaren has to do is send out a flash update and turn up the boost.

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Aug 31, 2012 8:04:33 AM

m4ever: Veteran; Loc: Czech Republic , Italy; Posts: 1051, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2005; Reply to: Heist

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

Would be strange indeed .The only connection I can think of is the Monaco Grand Prix where Ferrari won 9 times (vs 15 McLaren) the first being in 1952 (all F1 wins). McLaren could claim this name on its own road car with more consistency than Ferrari in this case .

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Aug 31, 2012 10:17:39 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: Heist

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

Heist:

What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor Smiley

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Aug 31, 2012 10:24:21 AM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: reginos

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

reginos:

Heist:

What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor

But it does mean that the FIAT Group has secured the rights to the use of the name.

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Aug 31, 2012 11:04:05 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: fritz

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

They should name it "Mugello".

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Aug 31, 2012 11:25:33 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: fritz

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

fritz:

reginos:

Heist:

What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor

But it does mean that the FIAT Group has secured the rights to the use of the name.

There was a Chevrolet Monte Carlo preceding the Lancia, that ran for many years. Perhaps, this is the reason behind the Italian car being called Montecarlo instead of Monte Carlo

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Aug 31, 2012 11:32:17 AM

m4ever: Veteran; Loc: Czech Republic , Italy; Posts: 1051, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2005; Reply to: reginos

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

reginos:

fritz:

reginos:

Heist:

What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor

But it does mean that the FIAT Group has secured the rights to the use of the name.

There was a Chevrolet Monte Carlo preceding the Lancia, that ran for many years. Perhaps, this is the reason behind the Italian car being called Montecarlo instead of Monte Carlo

Montecarlo is the name of a small town near Lucca (Italy), by the way , nice town.

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Aug 31, 2012 11:50:02 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: m4ever

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

m4ever:

reginos:

fritz:

reginos:

Heist:

What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor

But it does mean that the FIAT Group has secured the rights to the use of the name.

There was a Chevrolet Monte Carlo preceding the Lancia, that ran for many years. Perhaps, this is the reason behind the Italian car being called Montecarlo instead of Monte Carlo

Montecarlo is the name of a small town near Pisa (Italy), by the way , nice town.

That must have been the trick with Lancia sidestepping the Chevrolet naming rights, in the 70s. Montecarlo as in small town not the Monaco Monte Carlo. These Italians always find a way indecision

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Aug 31, 2012 12:00:42 PM

m4ever: Veteran; Loc: Czech Republic , Italy; Posts: 1051, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2005; Reply to: reginos

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

Reginos , you are right. Italians always find a way , unfortunately not always in the right direction.

Would be indeed strange to name the F 458 Montecarlo after a thirteen century medieval town in Tuscany. Ferrari Marketing Dept. would have hard time selling that !

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Aug 31, 2012 1:25:20 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: m4ever

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

m4ever:

Reginos , you are right. Italians always find a way , unfortunately not always in the right direction.

Would be indeed strange to name the F 458 Montecarlo after a thirteen century medieval town in Tuscany. Ferrari Marketing Dept. would have hard time selling that !

Yeh. Before you knew it, they'd start using names like Marenello, or Modena. Smiley

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Aug 31, 2012 5:47:00 PM

Enmanuel: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Boston , United States; Posts: 8843, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2008; Reply to: reginos

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

reginos:

m4ever:

reginos:

fritz:

reginos:

Heist:

What would be the significance of titling it Monte Carlo? Does it have some connection to Ferrari?

There was a mid-engined Lancia Montecarlo (not Monte Carlo) in the 70s. I am sure Ferrari don't think of that car as the 458 ancestor

But it does mean that the FIAT Group has secured the rights to the use of the name.

There was a Chevrolet Monte Carlo preceding the Lancia, that ran for many years. Perhaps, this is the reason behind the Italian car being called Montecarlo instead of Monte Carlo

Montecarlo is the name of a small town near Pisa (Italy), by the way , nice town.

That must have been the trick with Lancia sidestepping the Chevrolet naming rights, in the 70s. Montecarlo as in small town not the Monaco Monte Carlo. These Italians always find a way

Maybe Samsung should've hired an italian lawyer on the case agains Apple then Smiley

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Aug 31, 2012 6:56:12 PM

m4ever: Veteran; Loc: Czech Republic , Italy; Posts: 1051, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2005; Reply to: Enmanuel

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

Just for fun, before we can have more tech details about the upcoming "Montecarlo" i had a look in my Ferrari books In order to highlight all the models that contained a geographical reference, here we go:

Name and model/s in brackets (only road cars no racing models) from 1947 (not chronological order)

- Tour de France (250)

- Europa (250)

- Daytona (365 GTB/4) this one though was not the official designation but it became sort of

- Maranello (550)

- Fiorano (599)

- Modena (360)

- Italia (458)

- Superamerica (410,400, 575)

- America (375,340)

- California (250, 365, California)

Let's see what will be next

Cheers

Alex

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Aug 31, 2012 7:52:53 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: m4ever

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

If they keep the displacement at 4.5L (how it is usually done on these racier models) and add 50hp, the HP/L will be an astonishing record (for a production n/a motor),138 frown

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Aug 31, 2012 8:10:26 PM

Heist: Rennteam Master; Loc: Washington, DC , United States; Posts: 4147, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2007; Reply to: Grant

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

This was the last vehicle named "Monte Carlo" sold here in America.

*Barf bag not included.

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Aug 31, 2012 10:49:43 PM

pride355: Rennteam Pro; Loc: iSTANBUL , Turkey; Posts: 2475, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 28, 2005; Reply to: Rossi

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

Rossi:

They should name it "Mugello".

The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

Or "Monza".

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Aug 31, 2012 10:55:41 PM

REALZEUS: Expert; Loc: UK and Greece , United Kingdom; Posts: 1611, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 24, 2008; Reply to: pride355

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

pride355:

Rossi:

They should name it "Mugello".

The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

Or "Monza".

The F430 is the Monza.

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Sep 1, 2012 5:00:31 AM

koko: Rennteam Pro; Loc: UAE , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 2753, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2004; Reply to: REALZEUS

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

Not a fan of the the "MonteCarlo" name, but I'd take it any day over "Light Pista"

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Sep 1, 2012 8:08:48 AM

REALZEUS: Expert; Loc: UK and Greece , United Kingdom; Posts: 1611, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 24, 2008; Reply to: koko

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

koko:

Not a fan of the the "MonteCarlo" name, but I'd take it any day over "Light Pista"

Just "Pista" would be great though. Smiley

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Sep 1, 2012 12:20:52 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: REALZEUS

Re: 458 Scuderia to be called the Monte Carlo - report

......or Ferrari Pizza indecision .

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