Aug 16, 2012 2:15:59 PM
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Aug 16, 2012 2:27:44 PM
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Aug 16, 2012 2:48:47 PM
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Aug 16, 2012 3:12:16 PM
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Re: 2013 Range Rover.
Yeah, RR has a history there but most of the people who would buy either wouldn't take them off road. Most of the RR's I see are driven by wealthy women who like to park them outside of high-end shops.
I don't think there's much difference between the two for the average buyer.
Re: 2013 Range Rover.
Heist:
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X5 = Primarily and on road biased SUV that has off road capabilities.
RR = Primarily an off-road biased SUV that is being refined each generation for more well mannered on road capabilities.
Not to mention that in Europe at least, the Rangie is much pricier and more upmarket. In the UK the base price for a Range is £70k, whereas the X5 starts at $45k, placing it a couple of segments lower marketing wise. Anyway, a typical Range Rover customer would never even consider a BMW or a Mercedes as they perceive them as new money and somewhat vulgar. Remember, they usually are gentlemen whose other vehicles include Bentleys and Jaguars. 
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Aug 17, 2012 8:00:17 AM
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Re: 2013 Range Rover.
palenimbus:
I see a lot of VIP and diplomats using SUV as chauffered vehicles. I don't understand the advantage over a sedan like a S600 or in the Royals case, a Jaguar XJ. Aren't sedan's technically safer in high speed situations?
1. Easier to secure (bullet proof versions, etc.)
2. More safe in high security risk situations (have you ever seen what happens if a "normal" 2.5 ton SUV crashes into a normal car?).
3. Better escape vehicle due to off-road capabilities
Overall, I would prefer a SUV to a normal sedan if I would work in a risky environment. 
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Aug 17, 2012 5:44:04 PM
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Re: 2013 Range Rover.
Range Rovers are awesome to drive. Nothing else compares. Try them out once. Specs dont tell the whole truth.
I fell in love with them when I did a 2000 km road trip in germany with one.
Its not a sportscar, and doesnt pretend to be one. It does what its supposed to do incredibly well
Aug 17, 2012 7:04:42 PM
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Re: 2013 Range Rover.
HeavyMetalThunder:
Range Rovers are awesome to drive. Nothing else compares. Try them out once. Specs dont tell the whole truth.
I fell in love with them when I did a 2000 km road trip in germany with one.
Its not a sportscar, and doesnt pretend to be one. It does what its supposed to do incredibly well
+1 
Aug 17, 2012 10:27:02 PM
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Re: 2013 Range Rover.
HeavyMetalThunder:
Range Rovers are awesome to drive. Nothing else compares. Try them out once. Specs dont tell the whole truth.
I fell in love with them when I did a 2000 km road trip in germany with one.
Its not a sportscar, and doesnt pretend to be one. It does what its supposed to do incredibly well
I am with you mate.. till they break down that is. Nah, just pulling your leg there. 
I still prefer a Landie over a Rangie though. More tough and sturdy really.
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Re: 2013 Range Rover.
fritz:
Land Rover must be doing something right, as the company has just laid on a third shift to assemble cars around the clock.
Thats interesting news.
But with Range Rovers quality and frequency of repair issues, will dealers offer a fat discount on Range Rovers built after Midnight?
Aug 19, 2012 1:06:20 PM
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Re: 2013 Range Rover.
rulesdontapply:
I don't like it at all; it looks like the ungainly spawn of a Ford Explorer/Flex and an Evoque. The Evoque's signature features like the pulled-back lights worked well on the smaller car, but I think they're out of place on this model; the Range Rover [to me at least] is supposed to look more stately and elegant rather than trendy and stylized. I also really dislike the multitude of intakes, grilles and slats on the front, plus the ones on the doors are fussy.
That being said, I appreciate the slightly sportier silhouette but the devil is truly in the details.
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I have mixed feelings regarding this new RR. I´m an old RR fan, have had all RR models ever since the Classic to the latest Vogue model from 2003 and these cars are really special to own. I agree it has some Ford Explorer "signs" 
but I will reserve my final opinion when I see it live. This silver color might not be the best for this car, with darker color will look better for sure. Can´t waite to see this beast live.
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Re: 2013 Range Rover.
reginos:
I wonder how many Range Rover owners take their cars off road, anymore. This model has become too luxurious for any utility use. At the most they are taken in the snow or through a muddy field once in a while.
Some of the Rover users I've met have have been extremely dedicated off-road users. They have off-road clubs, meetup groups, excursions, contests, etc. There is some danger, I believe, that the Range Rover would lose credibility if the needs of these users are ignored. But I don't think that is going to happen. Rover will continue to cater to the off-road enthusiast and will maintain the reputation of a highly capable off-raod vehicle. For that reason it will never be in the same league with the X-5 or Cayenne for on-road use. And the opposite is also true; the X-5 and Cayenne will never be in the same class as Jeep and Rover off of the pavement. The X-5 in particular makes no effort at off-road capabilities.
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And the opposite is also true; the X-5 and Cayenne will never be in the same class as Jeep and Rover off of the pavement. The X-5 in particular makes no effort at off-road capabilities.
I agree - i have the X5M - it will struggle even on the road if you throw some tough conditions at it! Seriously, it is a great on-road car for those with too much stuff (read kids with toys) to have a pure sport sedan - but that is it, it is not really a 4x4 (nor does it claim to be).
Aug 21, 2012 2:45:49 PM
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Re: 2013 Range Rover.
rulesdontapply:
I don't like it at all; it looks like the ungainly spawn of a Ford Explorer/Flex and an Evoque. The Evoque's signature features like the pulled-back lights worked well on the smaller car, but I think they're out of place on this model; the Range Rover [to me at least] is supposed to look more stately and elegant rather than trendy and stylized. I also really dislike the multitude of intakes, grilles and slats on the front, plus the ones on the doors are fussy.
That being said, I appreciate the slightly sportier silhouette but the devil is truly in the details.
rulesdontapply
Agreed. Looks good on the Evoque, but out of place on the the most prestigious model in the range.
Re: 2013 Range Rover.
REALZEUS:
HeavyMetalThunder:
Range Rovers are awesome to drive. Nothing else compares. Try them out once. Specs dont tell the whole truth.
I fell in love with them when I did a 2000 km road trip in germany with one.
Its not a sportscar, and doesnt pretend to be one. It does what its supposed to do incredibly well
I am with you mate.. till they break down that is. Nah, just pulling your leg there.
Ageed and agreed!
I have a 2011 Sport model which I love for long journeys to Italy and the mountains. the 2014 model due out next year will also have an aluminium chassis so it'll be interesting to see how it drives with the lighter load and and increased performance.
I don't think I'd ever want the flagship car. It's huge and too obvious. If I don't take the new RRS then I'll wait for the aluminium chassis version of the disco
Aug 21, 2012 3:05:39 PM
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Re: 2013 Range Rover.
It's true it's become a bit too posh. Over in Vancouver you see them everywhere, driven by females to the shopping mall. Out in nature you see none of them. The Disco is the true Lang Rover with amazing off-road capabilities but that doesn't take away from the nice niche the RR enjoys. I still think it's a great car, though a bit too much Ford Flex once someone mentioned it.. It's much better than the Evoque and if the Disco will get the Alu chassis, it'll be a true winner! But right now in the RR class i'd honestly go for a Ford Explorer, it's a great car also and it's much more off-road capable.
Re: 2013 Range Rover.
koko:
HeavyMetalThunder:
Range Rovers are awesome to drive. Nothing else compares. Try them out once. Specs dont tell the whole truth.
I fell in love with them when I did a 2000 km road trip in germany with one.
Its not a sportscar, and doesnt pretend to be one. It does what its supposed to do incredibly well
+1
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Re: 2013 Range Rover.
JimFlat6:
fritz:
Land Rover must be doing something right, as the company has just laid on a third shift to assemble cars around the clock.
Thats interesting news.
But with Range Rovers quality and frequency of repair issues, will dealers offer a fat discount on Range Rovers built after Midnight?
LOL!! My friends also warned me about the reputation of the build quality but I have to say, I've had my RRS for almost 2 years now with 33,000km on the clock, and it's still tight as a drum. No squeaks, rattles, or issues whatsoever. and I only need to service it once every 27,000km too. All in all, it's been one of the most reliable car's I've ever had.
Now if it had an aluminium chassis and better fuel consumption......
Re: 2013 Range Rover.
Heist:
I am very pleased by this design. The other revisions really didn't move me and it's going to be 500lbs lighter too? What's not to like?
Cannot wait to see what they do with the RR Sport.
Likewise! As much as I like what they've done with the RR, it's simply to big for me.
The aluminium chassis version of the RRS is scheduled for MY 2014 I believe and if the weight savings are on a par with it's big brother, I think that'll be my new workhorse.
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