Jul 26, 2012 12:48:00 PM
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Jul 26, 2012 12:48:00 PM
Jul 26, 2012 4:50:31 PM
SportCarGroup:
Friend told me that the production starts on September 18/2013. There will be two versions - "Regular" and "Race Track". On the Russian market the "Race Track" version will cost 991.300 Eur.
Correct. Porsche has already stated it will being on that date. 9/18 2013, all apart of the marketing!
Jul 27, 2012 4:02:12 PM
Jul 27, 2012 5:20:28 PM
Jul 27, 2012 11:08:54 PM
Jul 28, 2012 8:49:49 AM
OMG, Porsche wins the hottest camo mule ever I love how much of them they built, how much they are testing them and how they choose the livery of them !! Compare that to the Enzo II mules... The 918 will be stunning and every sense a true Porsche - ie. more drivable and reliable while less flashy than a Ferrari. If it's also faster, it's a winner!
Jul 28, 2012 8:56:03 AM
Atzporsche:
OMG, Porsche wins the hottest camo mule ever I love how much of them they built, how much they are testing them and how they choose the livery of them !! Compare that to the Enzo II mules... The 918 will be stunning and every sense a true Porsche - ie. more drivable and reliable while less flashy than a Ferrari. If it's also faster, it's a winner!
918: 770 bhp, 1700 kg
"New Enzo": Circa 920 bhp and 1200 kg (rumoured)
The officially announced 0-200 time of the 918 is slower than that of the F12. The next Enzo on the other hand will be a Veyron beater. Not even in the same league really.
Jul 28, 2012 9:49:42 AM
REALZEUS:
Atzporsche:
OMG, Porsche wins the hottest camo mule ever I love how much of them they built, how much they are testing them and how they choose the livery of them !! Compare that to the Enzo II mules... The 918 will be stunning and every sense a true Porsche - ie. more drivable and reliable while less flashy than a Ferrari. If it's also faster, it's a winner!
918: 770 bhp, 1700 kg
"New Enzo": Circa 920 bhp and 1200 kg (rumoured)
The officially announced 0-200 time of the 918 is slower than that of the F12. The next Enzo on the other hand will be a Veyron beater. Not even in the same league really.
918 will have more than 800 hp.
New enzo will be around 920, i agree, on paper)))) Ferrari is the greatest paper claimer)))
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Jul 28, 2012 10:08:06 AM
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Jul 28, 2012 7:34:04 PM
Jul 28, 2012 9:47:46 PM
Jul 28, 2012 10:28:09 PM
kudryavchik:
REALZEUS:
Atzporsche:
OMG, Porsche wins the hottest camo mule ever I love how much of them they built, how much they are testing them and how they choose the livery of them !! Compare that to the Enzo II mules... The 918 will be stunning and every sense a true Porsche - ie. more drivable and reliable while less flashy than a Ferrari. If it's also faster, it's a winner!
918: 770 bhp, 1700 kg
"New Enzo": Circa 920 bhp and 1200 kg (rumoured)
The officially announced 0-200 time of the 918 is slower than that of the F12. The next Enzo on the other hand will be a Veyron beater. Not even in the same league really.
918 will have more than 800 hp.
New enzo will be around 920, i agree, on paper)))) Ferrari is the greatest paper claimer)))
Porsche has gone official stating 770 BHP of maximum combined power. Have you got any inside information saying otherwise?
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Jul 29, 2012 9:22:05 AM
Jul 29, 2012 9:44:22 AM
Futch:
palenimbus:
Futch confirmed over 800.
Correct. 100%.
As well as EU cycle below 5 L/100km.
A technological tour de force.
I quote my contact from inside: 7'20 Nordschleife VERY conservative.
And Porsche is conservative.. It will give the Enzo a run for it's money. It's already going to be way more efficient
I am basing it on the claims for these specific two cars. Unless P has been lying through its teeth, the specs of the 918 are no match for the upcoming Enzo successor. Look at the claimed numbers, how off can these be? Will the 918 be 1200 kg instead of the whispered 1700 for example?
Jul 29, 2012 11:04:10 AM
Atzporsche:
Futch:
palenimbus:
Futch confirmed over 800.
Correct. 100%.
As well as EU cycle below 5 L/100km.
A technological tour de force.
I quote my contact from inside: 7'20 Nordschleife VERY conservative.
And Porsche is conservative.. It will give the Enzo a run for it's money. It's already going to be way more efficient
And much more tecnological. As ever Ferrari will build conventional sportscar compared to Porsche.
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Jul 29, 2012 11:09:34 AM
REALZEUS:
I am basing it on the claims for these specific two cars. Unless P has been lying through its teeth, the specs of the 918 are no match for the upcoming Enzo successor. Look at the claimed numbers, how off can these be? Will the 918 be 1200 kg instead of the whispered 1700 for example?
As I can remember, Porsche is one of those companies that lie much less than others. F.e. they claimed 4 secs to 100 kph for cgt. In reality 3,5 secs were possible... Turbo s official was 3.3. As tests have shown 2.7 are often possible.
Ferrari, instead, one of those who lie and make too optimistic(fake) official claims.
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Jul 29, 2012 11:17:54 AM
kudryavchik:
REALZEUS:
I am basing it on the claims for these specific two cars. Unless P has been lying through its teeth, the specs of the 918 are no match for the upcoming Enzo successor. Look at the claimed numbers, how off can these be? Will the 918 be 1200 kg instead of the whispered 1700 for example?
As I can remember, Porsche is one of those companies that lie much less than others. F.e. they claimed 4 secs to 100 kph for cgt. In reality 3,5 secs were possible... Turbo s official was 3.3. As tests have shown 2.7 are often possible.
Ferrari, instead, one of those who lie and make too optimistic(fake) official claims.
That does not stand true. The Enzo for example was supposed to have a 3.5s 0-62mph time but low 3s were clocked independently and almost 370 km/h were also seen. The 458 has a 0-62 official time of 3.4s but various magazines have clock it at 3-3.1s. 0-124 mph times of less than 10s have also been clocked, whereas the factory claims only 10.4s and while its top speed theoretically is 325 km/h in all tests it hit 330. So Ferrari is also understating its numbers. Which is besides the whole point really as a differential of half a tonne (1200kg vs 1700) is unimaginable.
Jul 29, 2012 11:26:12 AM
REALZEUS:
kudryavchik:
REALZEUS:
I am basing it on the claims for these specific two cars. Unless P has been lying through its teeth, the specs of the 918 are no match for the upcoming Enzo successor. Look at the claimed numbers, how off can these be? Will the 918 be 1200 kg instead of the whispered 1700 for example?
As I can remember, Porsche is one of those companies that lie much less than others. F.e. they claimed 4 secs to 100 kph for cgt. In reality 3,5 secs were possible... Turbo s official was 3.3. As tests have shown 2.7 are often possible.
Ferrari, instead, one of those who lie and make too optimistic(fake) official claims.
That does not stand true. The Enzo for example was supposed to have a 3.5s 0-62mph time but low 3s were clocked independently and almost 370 km/h were also seen. The 458 has a 0-62 official time of 3.4s but various magazines have clock it at 3-3.1s. 0-124 mph times of less than 10s have also been clocked, whereas the factory claims only 10.4s and while its top speed theoretically is 325 km/h in all tests it hit 330. So Ferrari is also understating its numbers. Which is besides the whole point really as a differential of half a tonne (1200kg vs 1700) is unimaginable.
But what about modified demo cars for journalists?
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Jul 29, 2012 11:36:17 AM
It's pointless debating with Realzeus about Ferrari. He is the 100%, authentic diehard Ferrarista. No qualms about his automotive preferences, but it's like trying to have an objective discussion with the Pope on the topic of the Resurrection of Christ.
"Form follows function"
Jul 29, 2012 11:40:04 AM
reginos:
It's pointless debating with Realzeus about Ferrari. He is the 100%, authentic diehard Ferrarista. No qualms about his automotive preferences, but it's like trying to have an objective discussion with the Pope on the topic of the Resurrection of Christ.
Understood
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reginos:
It's pointless debating with Realzeus about Ferrari. He is the 100%, authentic diehard Ferrarista. No qualms about his automotive preferences, but it's like trying to have an objective discussion with the Pope on the topic of the Resurrection of Christ.
Even though, I accept the accusation of "diehard", I am bringing some valid arguments to the table I reckon. Feel free to shoot them down mate.
Jul 29, 2012 12:31:10 PM
kudryavchik:
REALZEUS:
kudryavchik:
REALZEUS:
I am basing it on the claims for these specific two cars. Unless P has been lying through its teeth, the specs of the 918 are no match for the upcoming Enzo successor. Look at the claimed numbers, how off can these be? Will the 918 be 1200 kg instead of the whispered 1700 for example?
As I can remember, Porsche is one of those companies that lie much less than others. F.e. they claimed 4 secs to 100 kph for cgt. In reality 3,5 secs were possible... Turbo s official was 3.3. As tests have shown 2.7 are often possible.
Ferrari, instead, one of those who lie and make too optimistic(fake) official claims.
That does not stand true. The Enzo for example was supposed to have a 3.5s 0-62mph time but low 3s were clocked independently and almost 370 km/h were also seen. The 458 has a 0-62 official time of 3.4s but various magazines have clock it at 3-3.1s. 0-124 mph times of less than 10s have also been clocked, whereas the factory claims only 10.4s and while its top speed theoretically is 325 km/h in all tests it hit 330. So Ferrari is also understating its numbers. Which is besides the whole point really as a differential of half a tonne (1200kg vs 1700) is unimaginable.
But what about modified demo cars for journalists?
What about them? Never proven! Why are the cars that Ferrari provides to the journalists tricked out and not the cars that other manufacturers give to the press? Your logic is hilarious. If a Ferrari proves to be faster than claimed, then it's a demo special. If another car proves to be quicker than claimed, then it's a bloody good car! Priceless line of argument really!