Closeartur777:
Very nice color!
When will you run in the car and test it))?
Already have 800 km on it but I need to have at least 3000 km for a first run. The Turbo engine actually gets it's peak power at 5000-8000 km but of course I won't wait that long.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Your explanation makes sense and is accepted.
That said, I would have ditched the car and bought something in Miami. A car is just a car. They all will get you there. (See my note on the Tesla S which can be bought for around $75,000 with the 300 mile battery. It would get you to your Europe vacation spots a lot cheaper and for 1/3 of the price and in style.)
Driving is about fun, Nick. Everything else is not important for me.
What happened to you? I remember a Nick who actually enjoyed driving, not commuting.
Also you may have missed the lease deal I mentioned a couple of times: The car is not my property.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
nberry:
Your explanation makes sense and is accepted.
That's a pretty strange notion to have on a forum which is dedicated to sports cars.
Tim:
nberry:
Your explanation makes sense and is accepted.
That's a pretty strange notion to have on a forum which is dedicated to sports cars.
It happens when you get out of a Ferrari and jump into a Honda 
nberry:
Your explanation makes sense and is accepted.
Who cares what you would have done? 
And bringing a Tesla up in a tread about a (beautifull) Panamera TS in a sportscarforum? Please. 
BiTurbo:
Tim:
nberry:
Your explanation makes sense and is accepted.
That's a pretty strange notion to have on a forum which is dedicated to sports cars.
It happens when you get out of a Ferrari and jump into a Honda
I was close to posting the same comment! 
Congratulations RC, your car looks a real beast 
The more I see of Panamera the more I like the styling and yours is one of the best I've seen.
Hope your father makes a full recovery and wish you many safe and fast miles on the Autobahn
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Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid. - Albert Einstein
Porsche 997 Carrera S PDK Aqua Blue / Black - Toyota Yaris D4D "Clockwork Rat"
BiTurbo:
Tim:
nberry:
Your explanation makes sense and is accepted.
That's a pretty strange notion to have on a forum which is dedicated to sports cars.
It happens when you get out of a Ferrari and jump into a Honda
Well, I do have some knowledge.
dreamcar:
Congratulations RC, your car looks a real beast
Hope your father makes a full recovery and wish you many safe and fast miles on the Autobahn
Thank you so much, I appreciate it. 
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
RC:
Here are more photos, guys. Sorry for my boy being in almost each photo, he just didn't want to exit the car.
RC, I think your son wants to become a Panzer Commander when he grows up.
I've just realized your father had a health problem recently. Swift recovery!
"Form follows function"
dxpetrov:
Congrats!
BTW, how come that the same car has two different interior colors at same time? Which one is it?
You have bought two cars?!
OK...now I am confused. 
I see only one color... Black.
What color(s) do you see? If you see a rainbow, then you should check your medication... 
Just kidding: I think I know what you are talking about...the marsala red, right? This was a factory loaner, courtesy of Porsche, until my car is ready (it took them two months to fix the "problem").
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
RC:
dxpetrov:
BTW, how come that the same car has two different interior colors at same time? Which one is it?
You have bought two cars?!
I see only one color...
What color(s) do you see? If you see a rainbow, then you should check your medication...
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."
RC:
dxpetrov:
Congrats!
BTW, how come that the same car has two different interior colors at same time? Which one is it?
You have bought two cars?!
OK...now I am confused.
I see only one color...
What color(s) do you see? If you see a rainbow, then you should check your medication...
Just kidding: I think I know what you are talking about...the marsala red, right? This was a factory loaner, courtesy of Porsche, until my car is ready (it took them two months to fix the "problem").
hahaha, I should take the meds then! Actually, I thought ''kabir's' car was yours initially. Wasn't looking at the sig... all clear now!
Sorry!
Once again - it's just silly how good this car is!
Jul 9, 2012 12:44:51 AM
Thanks for the shots. I think tthine only color I like the Panamera is in black, I still think its a bit huge. The front lights in black do make it look aggressive, I like that.
I thought dxpetrov meant that it looked grey is the picture from the rear seats, but it seems like that was just how the light made it look on pictures.
Jul 9, 2012 6:51:47 AM
Jul 9, 2012 7:47:52 AM
Enmanuel:
Thanks for the shots. I think tthine only color I like the Panamera is in black, I still think its a bit huge. The front lights in black do make it look aggressive, I like that.
Of course it is huge, it needs to fit four persons comfortably.
Put it next to the new BMW 5 series and you'll be surprised that it they look the same size.
What I don't like about the Panamera is the lack of luggage space. For such a big car, the luggage room is ridiculous.
I really think that former Porsche CEO Dr. Wiedeking got it all wrong: This is not a chauffeur's limousine, this is a sporty sedan and he could have reduced the rear compartment (incl. leg and head room) for a larger luggage compartment.
I also think that Porsche kind of got the image wrong for the Panamera, even if it sells that well.
Let me give you an example: When I was offered the factory loaner, Porsche apologized to me for not having something more mainstream, the car I would get would be a little bit out of the ordinary and for that, they apologized. When the loaner arrived, I was amazed how good it looked.
Also look around Zuffenhausen and their factory cars: Many of them are in the same style...black wheels, black front lights, not really that elegant look many seem to like (or not?) on the Panamera.
To make it short: I think that Porsche should offer options which enhance the sporty look or even the performance of the Panamera and I really hope they will do that with the facelift. Look at the backlights for example, why aren't there darker (or black) backlights for the Panamera but black front lights? Does this make sense to you?
I also don't understand why there was no deviating stitching available for the Panamera...or yellow seat belts for example. Just now they seem to start offering the deviating stitching options...
The Panamera is a great Porsche (yes, a true Porsche...they put one billion EUR into development) but I get the feeling that Porsche put too much emphasis into the elegant part of the car, not the sporty one. Yes, the Panamera Turbo S did the Nordschleife in 7:52 min., which is amazing for a sedan of this size but this should be only the beginning.
As long as Porsche doesn't offer a Panamera Coupe or a 911 with more room in the rear compartment, Porsche lovers who have kids and need more room have no real choice. I think that Porsche is missing an opportunity here because the image of the Panamera isn't really very sporty.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche Panamera Turbo S, BMW X5M, Mercedes C63 AMG Coupe PP/DP, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4
Jul 9, 2012 9:01:56 AM
We have that same issue here - the Panamera is seen as a luxury vehicle and is always cross-shopped with the BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ and Lexus LS.
A very large percentage of Panamera owners here are women and their customization options again emphasize elegance over sport - most cars are sold in mahogany, topaz, ruby red and white. You rarely see the blacks, greys and blues; very few cars are stock ordered with the Sport Design kit and black headlights but they either appeal to men or sit unwanted on the lot because they look "too sporty" for people in this market.
I agree with RC in that Wendelin Wiedeking put too much emphasis on the Panamera's chauffeur aspect: a Porsche is meant to be driven. One of the famous design criteria [is it a rumor? I've heard it all the time] was that the 6'3" Wiedeking could sit in the back seats with comfortable head and legroom while the front seats were set to his ideal driving position, explaining the enlarged wheelbase and stretched roofline.
I'm sure the facelift will fix some of the cosmetically odd bits on the Panamera's exterior and make it look a bit more composed and harmonious [not that the current one isn't a beauty, but it could use a bit of tweaking], but I hope Porsche goes with a true driver's sedan with the next generation.
rulesdontapply
Jul 9, 2012 12:39:25 PM
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