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5 juin 2012 20:10:38
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Re: 2012 Montreal F1 Grand Prix
I hope it doesn't get disrupted. There's an ongoing student protest and Anonymous has threatened to disrupt anything F1 related that weekend.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/05/30/montreal-f1-info-hacked.html
7 juin 2012 01:22:24
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Guys, thanks for starting the thread :)
I got back on 5 June during the late afternoon London time and I've spent the last 23 hours sleeping ... it was a 25 hour return journey from Honolulu to London :(
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7 juin 2012 08:21:48
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7 juin 2012 13:59:28
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8 juin 2012 08:17:33
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8 juin 2012 08:28:23
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8 juin 2012 09:43:15
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8 juin 2012 13:11:38
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Re: 2012 Montreal F1 Grand Prix
RBR have to change their wheel hub design now 
What next? In F1 innovation seems to be penalized. IMO the big teams want to stop RBR's successes by any means.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/100230
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9 juin 2012 16:49:42
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Other teams have had their share of bans as well in the last couple of years, and RBR have gotten away with a few tricks that were questionable to say the least like the blown diffuser, flexible wings, etc and they walked away with two world titles wothout breaking a sweat thanks to them, they could have put a monkey on the driver's seat and they still would have won the last two tittles... so RBR should be the last team to complain now.
IMO it seems like they are desperately pushing the rule book a bit to far lately trying to get their past season advantage back, not so easy to win now without having a car that's in another leage as the other. Not that they shouldn't try to outsmart the rulebook, thats part of the game, but sometimes it pays off, and sometimes it doesn't, thats F1, for every team, and in the last seasons it has payed off for RBR more than any other team so any "conspiracy theories" have no basis IMO.
And as a fan I could not be happier
6 races and 6 different winners, with some great driver to driver battles, instead of results purely depending on the car the driver drove, like in the last seasons.
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9 juin 2012 18:24:58
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9 juin 2012 18:46:15
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Re: 2012 Montreal F1 Grand Prix
Carlos from Spain:
Other teams have had their share of bans as well in the last couple of years, and RBR have gotten away with a few tricks that were questionable to say the least like the blown diffuser, flexible wings, etc and they walked away with two world titles wothout breaking a sweat thanks to them, they could have put a monkey on the driver's seat and they still would have won the last two tittles...
Oh common that is ridiculous and you know it.
And as a fan I could not be happier
This I give you, and we are yet to see Kimi take a win if Lotus gets their act together. Sauber is damn fast too! But more so than anything, it will yield the most consistent person to take the Championship this season and that is how it should be.
You cannot fully discredit what Vettel has reached in the past couple of seasons and how can see how hungry and growing in maturity he is almost on a weekly level.. that to me is great to watch, and Vettel will get at least another 2 Championships, not in a Ferrari though
9 juin 2012 19:54:49
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Atzporsche:You cannot fully discredit what Vettel has reached in the past couple of seasons
Sure, but with the car he had there are other drivers in the grid that would of had no problems to achieve the same those too seasons, so its nothing outstanding, and some would of done it with even greater ease, like the first of his titles that inspite having such a car he managed to screw up the season to the point that he only managed to grab it in the last race thanks to one of Ferrari's biggest tactil blunders in F1, either Hamilton or Alonso with his car would have grabbed that title several weekends before tha last GP that year.
and how can see how hungry and growing in maturity he is almost on a weekly level.
All I see is his lame finguer gesture and his bad sportmanship when things don't go as he would like, i.e. having the fastest car, getting to start from P1, and cruise to the finish line without having to fight other drivers for it.
Sorry for being blunt, but thats how I see it. If you use the search function of the forum you could find old F1 threads in which when Vettel started in F1 I was one of his biggest supporters and claimed very early that he had potential before he came in the spotlight. But after seeing how he behaved inisde the track (ala schumacher when he didn't get his way) and later getting the two "freebie" titles with RBR, in which there was no competition those two seasons, I'm not a big fan anymore. And bottom line is he has still to prove that in equal terms he deserves to be ranked with the likes of Hamilton, Alonso, Schumacher (V1.0 not V2.0), etc.
Vettel will get at least another 2 Championships, not in a Ferrari though
Not only because he won't likely to be signed by the scuderia, but mainly because given the Ferrari's performance in recent seasons, there is no way Vettel could win a title with it... let me put it this way, you honestly think that if Vettel was in Alonso's Ferrari this season he would be leading the championship at this point?
I know you are a big Vettel fan and I respect that, so don't take me too seriously, this is all very subjective in the end even if we don't want to admit it, because of our personal preferences, and I have my own as you know 
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9 juin 2012 21:32:34
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I see your points quite clearly and I value your opinion highly Carlos 
That being said, stating "a monkey" could have raced and won two championships is a bit too much IMO. I know i've said bad things about Alonso in the past, but you'll notice i've refrained from such comments recently years because I also value Alonso as a driver... he is one of the best on the grid period. While I would not personally express my wins with a one finger gesture, I do think people are reading too much into it.. way too much. Anyways i'm betting that in their respective wiki after their careers Vettel will have more championships on his name
Oh and yes, I hope Vettel will never go to McLaren... I can see him at Mercedes next to Rosberg when Schumi retires.. again.
9 juin 2012 23:15:04
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Re: 2012 Montreal F1 Grand Prix
Gladstone:
Lord_Driftalot:
Shue (aka Schumi) or Louie (aka Lewis), who's gonna be our 7th winner of the season?
This is a tough call, I hope that one of these guys will show us the answer on sunday...
I had a dream last night that it is going to be Hamilton.
If you dream with any numbers anytime soon let me know, so I can win the lottery.
10 juin 2012 19:57:51
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Re: 2012 Montreal F1 Grand Prix
Haha good for him it was long overdue.. McLaren is finding back their pace and Lewis seems to have overcome some character issues.
Got pretty exciting there in the end, sadly RBR didn't quite have the pace but good to have gained on Alonso Someone tell Ferrari this race was 70 laps lol. But seriously, big congrats to Perez, what a fantastic race from Sauber!! They are doing better and better and the car has serious pace.. now wishing them a GP win this season as well. Their strategy today was brilliant. Apart from of course Lotus going on the same strategy and with equally good reward, a podium given the competition is a job well done IMO. Who would have guessed that Lewis now leads the Championship.. 
Quick someone try to find something illegal on the McLaren, they won the race how unfair of them 
10 juin 2012 20:04:04
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Ferrari just doesn't do things half way 
in Monaco the lost it because they pitted in too early instead of keeping Alonso out, and in this race they did the opposite... did they really think they could have maintained a 1:18.00-1:19.00 till tyhe end must of been pretty frustrating for Alonso watching everybody blow by, Rosberg was only 0,3senc behind after the checkered flag... the were lucky to grab that 5th 
, Alonso is still 2nd in the championship.
And now 7 races and 7 different winners!! 
what a season, and now its Hamilton who leads the championship... I hope this keeps up till the last race 
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10 juin 2012 20:19:21
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11 juin 2012 11:12:44
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Re: 2012 Montreal F1 Grand Prix
Wonderful race ... thrilling to watch right till the very end ...
A superb drive from Hamilton ... I still can't quite believe that there have been 7 different winners in 7 races so far this season ... unreal.
Montreal result
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/results/9713493.stm
This was the pre-race strategy report from James Allen
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/06/how-the-f1-teams-will-approach-the-canadian-grand-prix/
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11 juin 2012 11:24:59
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Re: 2012 Montreal F1 Grand Prix
Interesting article from Andrew Benson on Hamilton's consistency this season.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2012/06/hamilton_1.html
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11 juin 2012 14:49:55
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Re: 2012 Montreal F1 Grand Prix
Gladstone:
Lord_Driftalot:
Shue (aka Schumi) or Louie (aka Lewis), who's gonna be our 7th winner of the season?
This is a tough call, I hope that one of these guys will show us the answer on sunday...
I had a dream last night that it is going to be Hamilton.
MUCH CREDIT to GLADSTONE! He called it. Not easy to do this year. Must be from all those years of F1 study in Montreal!
Cheers! (dang, I was not there live this year!!!)
11 juin 2012 17:06:10
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Re: 2012 Montreal F1 Grand Prix
What kind of curse has been placed on Schumi? The guy is unable to complete a race and lately, it's the car not him, that has been failing him.
His first year back, he couldn't come to terms with the wheelbase of the car.
Second year, it was more him making some overly aggressive moves and miscalculations.
This year, the car has failed him time and time again.
13 juin 2012 08:58:06
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Re: 2012 Montreal F1 Grand Prix
Interesting post-race strategy analysis from James Allen
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/06/how-the-canadian-grand-prix-got-away-from-alonso-and-vettel/
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