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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    It seems as if the car will feature a hatchback rear:

    1330034106669F152 rear.jpg

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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    Agreed  - but I couldn't see the point of this video  - where's the new technology Smiley


    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    crayphile:

    Agreed  - but I couldn't see the point of this video  - where's the new technology Smiley


    Perhaps they try to achieve an all-around constant clearing for the first time ever? Smiley


    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    crayphile:

    Agreed  - but I couldn't see the point of this video  - where's the new technology Smiley


    Perhaps they try to achieve an all-around constant clearance gap for the first time ever? Smiley


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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    This one could be the real thing...

    F152.jpg

    More about it here:
    http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/02/24/exclusive-this-is-the-2013-ferrari-f620-gt/


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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/261492/

    Not the best design for a top Ferrari. Recently, Ferrari have been doing something similar to BMW under Bangle. 


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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    Rossi:

    This one could be the real thing...

    F152.jpg

    More about it here:
    http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/02/24/exclusive-this-is-the-2013-ferrari-f620-gt/


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    This is indeed the real thing. The silver wooden model you showed sat next to a Rosso real one! The car is absolutely stunning. The technical specs are otherwordly also. 0-1000m is muted to be below 19s which puts it in Veyron territory!

     

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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    I expect the real car to look a bit better than this wooden model.
    So far I'm not convinced from what I see here. Looks like a 599 with a grinning, clownish front.
    Not my cup of tea, but I guess it will look better in real.


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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    Rossi:

    This one could be the real thing...

    F152.jpg

    More about it here:
    http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/02/24/exclusive-this-is-the-2013-ferrari-f620-gt/


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    I like the looks! Unfortunately, you can already tell from this pic how much weight is located at the front end of the car. Looks similar to the 599 SmileyThe picture tells: there will be a lot of understeer on the track Smiley


    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    REALZEUS:
    Rossi:

    This one could be the real thing...

    F152.jpg

    More about it here:
    http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/02/24/exclusive-this-is-the-2013-ferrari-f620-gt/


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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

     

    This is indeed the real thing. The silver wooden model you showed sat next to a Rosso real one! The car is absolutely stunning. The technical specs are otherwordly also. 0-1000m is muted to be below 19s which puts it in Veyron territory!

     

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    You should better expect this Ferrari to be much slower than the Veyron. Between these two cars are worlds in terms of acceleration. Of course, this statement also applies to any other Sportscar on the market as the Veyron has no competitors when it comes to straight line acceleration...


    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    MKSGR:
    Rossi:

    This one could be the real thing...

    F152.jpg

    More about it here:
    http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/02/24/exclusive-this-is-the-2013-ferrari-f620-gt/


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    I like the looks! Unfortunately, you can already tell from this pic how much weight is located at the front end of the car. Looks similar to the 599 SmileyThe picture tells: there will be a lot of understeer on the track Smiley

     

    I like your virtual reality rating. An F1 team could make great use of your psychic powers! Smiley

     


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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    MKSGR:
    REALZEUS:
    Rossi:

    This one could be the real thing...

    F152.jpg

    More about it here:
    http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/02/24/exclusive-this-is-the-2013-ferrari-f620-gt/


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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

     

    This is indeed the real thing. The silver wooden model you showed sat next to a Rosso real one! The car is absolutely stunning. The technical specs are otherwordly also. 0-1000m is muted to be below 19s which puts it in Veyron territory!

     

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    FERRARI RULES!!!

    You should better expect this Ferrari to be much slower than the Veyron. Between these two cars are worlds in terms of acceleration. Of course, this statement also applies to any other Sportscar on the market as the Veyron has no competitors when it comes to straight line acceleration...

     

    Really? 750 CV for 1525 kilos vs 1000 PS for 1880 kg? (both dry) Seems fair enought to me given the Veyron's Haldex's parasitic losses. And this is not even the next Enzo. Cheers!  Smiley


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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    Oh my, the front is over the top. Way too clownish as Rossi wrote. Disappointed.surprise


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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    I have to say I like the rendering better than the mock up.  We will find out in a couple of days what it really looks like.

    I, for one, am quite excited about the new V12.  The engine response of FF V12 was instantaneous, a la Carrera GT when you step on the revs in neutral gear.  If the V12 in the 620GT can better it, I'm looking forward to it.


    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    From this picture I cant make up my mind on it. Reminds me of the first leaked picture of the FF where I hated it, then the car came out, I saw it in videos and I loved it. So i'll wait before commenting much on it. There is something I dont like though right off the bat and thats the rear quarter, it looks more 550 than 599, so I'm not sure if its a step forwards or back for Ferrari. 


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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    This design is way too messy. The front is childish, the midsection is way too messy with so many lines and the rear quarter is plain old looking a la 550. In this picture the roof line looks out of place on this car because it is the only clean design line on it... I bet the spider will look much better - ie. more suitable for all those silly lines. I remain hopeful this is only a photoshop.


    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    we just have to wait some days more, but so far the aventador is in another league with design.


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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    xander71:

    we just have to wait some days more, but so far the aventador is in another league with design.

    This could never be an Aventador-like car being front engined. Ferrari has a different design language. The car is going to be stunning. The Aventador is also stunning but in a different way.


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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    MKSGR:
    REALZEUS:

    This is indeed the real thing. The silver wooden model you showed sat next to a Rosso real one! The car is absolutely stunning. The technical specs are otherwordly also. 0-1000m is muted to be below 19s which puts it in Veyron territory!

     

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    FERRARI RULES!!!

    You should better expect this Ferrari to be much slower than the Veyron. Between these two cars are worlds in terms of acceleration. Of course, this statement also applies to any other Sportscar on the market as the Veyron has no competitors when it comes to straight line acceleration...

     

    This new F152 could be very close to Veyron indeed, if the numbers posted so far are correct, 0-200km/h in 8,5s with 100-200km/h in 5,4s and 0-1000m in under 19s at 290km/h.

    Based on this 0-300km/h could be around 22s, which makes sense since Aventador is capable of 24s. Standard Veyron did 0-300km/h in 18,2s in AMS, but that was in high-speed mode which is not usable on regular Autobahn drives (gets deactivated with a touch of brakes). Standard Veyron in normal Handling mode does 0-300 in about 21-22s (Sport Auto, EVO). Also 100-200km/h in 5,4s. Pretty much the same as expected from F152. Looking forward to instrumented tests.

    Veyron SS is a different story with 0-300km/h in 17s and 100-200km/h in 4,3s in Handling mode.


    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    REALZEUS:
    MKSGR:
    REALZEUS:
    Rossi:

    This one could be the real thing...

    F152.jpg

    More about it here:
    http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/02/24/exclusive-this-is-the-2013-ferrari-f620-gt/


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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

     

    This is indeed the real thing. The silver wooden model you showed sat next to a Rosso real one! The car is absolutely stunning. The technical specs are otherwordly also. 0-1000m is muted to be below 19s which puts it in Veyron territory!

     

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    FERRARI RULES!!!

    You should better expect this Ferrari to be much slower than the Veyron. Between these two cars are worlds in terms of acceleration. Of course, this statement also applies to any other Sportscar on the market as the Veyron has no competitors when it comes to straight line acceleration...

     

    Really? 750 CV for 1525 kilos vs 1000 PS for 1880 kg? (both dry) Seems fair enought to me given the Veyron's Haldex's parasitic losses. And this is not even the next Enzo. Cheers!  Smiley

    My friend, you don't quite know what you are talking about.  Neither as far as the handling of these cars is concerned nor as the acceleration performance is concerned. That is no problem per se. It just gets a problem if you reply nonsense to posts by people who know what they write about. There are indeed people who own and drive these cars. And you should better listen to these peoples views rather than posting nonsense. Until there are any pieces of evidence it is safe to assume that the new 599 will handle similar to the old 599. It would be nonsense to assume that Ferrari did any miracles. This happens very rarely in Maranello.


    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    mv:
    MKSGR:
    REALZEUS:

    This is indeed the real thing. The silver wooden model you showed sat next to a Rosso real one! The car is absolutely stunning. The technical specs are otherwordly also. 0-1000m is muted to be below 19s which puts it in Veyron territory!

     

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    FERRARI RULES!!!

    You should better expect this Ferrari to be much slower than the Veyron. Between these two cars are worlds in terms of acceleration. Of course, this statement also applies to any other Sportscar on the market as the Veyron has no competitors when it comes to straight line acceleration...

     

    This new F152 could be very close to Veyron indeed, if the numbers posted so far are correct, 0-200km/h in 8,5s with 100-200km/h in 5,4s and 0-1000m in under 19s at 290km/h.

    Based on this 0-300km/h could be around 22s, which makes sense since Aventador is capable of 24s. Standard Veyron did 0-300km/h in 18,2s in AMS, but that was in high-speed mode which is not usable on regular Autobahn drives (gets deactivated with a touch of brakes). Standard Veyron in normal Handling mode does 0-300 in about 21-22s (Sport Auto, EVO). Also 100-200km/h in 5,4s. Pretty much the same as expected from F152. Looking forward to instrumented tests.

    Veyron SS is a different story with 0-300km/h in 17s and 100-200km/h in 4,3s in Handling mode.

    I don't expect this new Ferrari to be quicker than approx. 25s for 0-300. The standard Veyron does 0-300 in like 18s Smiley

    BTW, 0-300 in the Veyron does not depend on the use of HighSpeed mode - 0-300 is the same in standard and high-speed mode


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    Re: New V12 sports car for Geneva, Record financial results.

    mv:
    MKSGR:
    REALZEUS:

    This is indeed the real thing. The silver wooden model you showed sat next to a Rosso real one! The car is absolutely stunning. The technical specs are otherwordly also. 0-1000m is muted to be below 19s which puts it in Veyron territory!

     

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    FERRARI RULES!!!

    You should better expect this Ferrari to be much slower than the Veyron. Between these two cars are worlds in terms of acceleration. Of course, this statement also applies to any other Sportscar on the market as the Veyron has no competitors when it comes to straight line acceleration...

     

    This new F152 could be very close to Veyron indeed, if the numbers posted so far are correct, 0-200km/h in 8,5s with 100-200km/h in 5,4s and 0-1000m in under 19s at 290km/h.

    Based on this 0-300km/h could be around 22s, which makes sense since Aventador is capable of 24s. Standard Veyron did 0-300km/h in 18,2s in AMS, but that was in high-speed mode which is not usable on regular Autobahn drives (gets deactivated with a touch of brakes). Standard Veyron in normal Handling mode does 0-300 in about 21-22s (Sport Auto, EVO). Also 100-200km/h in 5,4s. Pretty much the same as expected from F152. Looking forward to instrumented tests.

    Veyron SS is a different story with 0-300km/h in 17s and 100-200km/h in 4,3s in Handling mode.

     

    No need to worry about the SS mate. The next Enzo will take care of that. wink


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