I quite like the name Macan
Not to be swapped with Megane (Renault) though
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Wonderbar:
The public cannot even pronounce Porsche correctly, and most of the time fumbles "Cayenne" and "Cayman". Macan will be fine, and you can be assured Porsche will promote the name and pronunciation worldwide.
Worst offender is car nut /collector/ uber gear head comedian Jay Leno who continues to pronounce it "Porsh" on all his car related videos - he may be doing that just to irritate Porsche enthusiasts on purpose , I'm not sure.
Of course many mispronounce Lamborghini as if it were the wooly livestock animal and Maserati as if it were the cheese
Feb 17, 2012 6:35:22 AM
There are some degree of resemblance to the: LUXGEN SUV which had been around for few years already... the side profile of its back and front are very similar... WHICH IS NOT A GOOD THING..... lets just hope Porsche will given a better handwritting as what they do best....
Here is the site which you all can look at.....
http://www.thenhbushman.com/2010/12/02/andres-new-luxgen-suv/
Feb 17, 2012 8:26:52 AM
Feb 17, 2012 8:58:04 AM
Yes, I mentioned this earlier on in this thread. I just hope and prey they manage to dissuade the CEO from sitting in the rear seat and that they keep any designer that has had a "liquid lunch" far from the used parts bin.
It also wouldn't be a bad idea to call in a "color coordinator" specialist to provide a few tips and perhaps someone to shed some light on the fact that providing different shades of gray/silver, black and white (and an occasional rusty brown) is not really providing a "wide ranging" color scheme choice.
Feb 17, 2012 9:08:23 AM
According to our sources, the Macan will look, in it's basic shape, very much like the Cayenne.
The front lights will be slightly different (larger width but also smaller height vs. Cayenne) and the rear lights will be more 991 oriented, less bulky (Cayenne).
I hope this helps...
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Enzo II:
Wheels way too big, front too long, rear lights different (similar to 991 but slightly bigger), roof line different.
Somebody apparently mixed a Cayenne with a Panamera.
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MKW:
The public cannot even pronounce Porsche correctly...
I'm not such whether it's correct to suggest that "porcsh" (i.e. without the 2nd sylable "E") is "wrong" - I also don't know of a single Englishman who pronounces Volkswagen correctly (i.e. "Folks vagen") - but one has to realise that in Britain, the anglicised version is perfectly acceptable - dare I say correctly - pronounced with a V and W sound.
I know it's "Porsch-er", but I'm quite happy to say Porsche. In fact if you say "Porsch-er" in most English-speaking countries, people think you're just trying to be smart... VW only gets "correctly" pronounced in South Africa thanks to our Afrikaans "connection".
It's like the American pronunciation of Coupe without the E - it's not wrong just because of its etymology - it's just local dialect evolution.
Worse is the literal translation problem. Apparently the Ford Nova did really badly in Spanish-speaking countries...
Porsche Carrera GTS (2012); Porsche Cayenne Diesel (2012)
I think that the correct pronunciation is important.
Would somebody say Nev York to New York ?
What surprises me very often is actually the fact that car professionals say the name wrong. Kind of weird.
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Feb 17, 2012 11:55:16 AM
Spyderidol:
RC:
According to our sources, the Macan will look, in it's basic shape, very much like the Cayenne.
I'm not at all surprised.
Someone who was shown the car during the 991 launch event in SA, told me that it's basically a Cayenne SUV shape but with more of a 911 proportion/profile. He couldn't help me to visualize the car more, because it was shown for a very short time.
"Form follows function"
Feb 17, 2012 12:05:40 PM
@Budster: I don't mean to make a big deal out of it :)
Just my 2 cents, "Porsche" is a proper noun since it is a person's name. It has a correct way of being pronounced. It's "Porshuh". This isn't a German accent vs British accent kind of thing ...
You could say that "Volkswagen" is a proper name too (consisting of 2 German words) and so may be pronounced "Folkswagen". One could argue instead that this is because one is applying a German accent. This isn't about whether to pronounce a second syllable but is instead about how to pronounce a letter so it's different from the "Porsche" example.
"Coupe" (usually pronounced "coopay") is pronounced as "coop" in the USA because it's not a proper name etc ... just a word that they mis-pronounce :) <chuckles>
I won't even start about how Americans pronounce the word "aluminium" :)
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reginos:
Spyderidol:
RC:
According to our sources, the Macan will look, in it's basic shape, very much like the Cayenne.
I'm not at all surprised.
Someone who was shown the car during the 991 launch event in SA, told me that it's basically a Cayenne SUV shape but with more of a 911 proportion/profile. He couldn't help me to visualize the car more, because it was shown for a very short time.
I strongly believe it wont look like downsized Cayenne
Feb 17, 2012 12:42:54 PM
easy_rider911:
@Budster: I don't mean to make a big deal out of it :)
Just my 2 cents, "Porsche" is a proper noun since it is a person's name. It has a correct way of being pronounced. It's "Porshuh". This isn't a German accent vs British accent kind of thing ...
You could say that "Volkswagen" is a proper name too (consisting of 2 German words) and so may be pronounced "Folkswagen". One could argue instead that this is because one is applying a German accent. This isn't about whether to pronounce a second syllable but is instead about how to pronounce a letter so it's different from the "Porsche" example.
"Coupe" (usually pronounced "coopay") is pronounced as "coop" in the USA because it's not a proper name etc ... just a word that they mis-pronounce :) <chuckles>
I won't even start about how Americans pronounce the word "aluminium" :)
Since we are on the subject, I frequently listen to BBC broadcasts and have been curious why the British so often add an "R" to the end of many words, where no r is there, as in "ObamaER" for example.
Feb 17, 2012 1:07:19 PM
I can't say I've noticed that particularly aspect ... I find standards at the BBC are not what they used to be ...
The only exceptions I've come across are the BBC World Service and the news bulletins on the hour (e.g. on BBC Radio 4). Listening to those is like listening to broadcasts from decades ago. The pronunciation is just from another era. I really like them.
And then I switch on the TV and I hear today's youth speaking English. They make the language of Chaucer, Milton and Shakespeare sound like another language altogether. I know I sound grumpy but it's depressing.
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Misha011:
I strongly believe it wont look like downsized Cayenne
I strongly believe it does. What now ?
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Feb 17, 2012 1:44:14 PM
The language of Chaucer, Milton and Shakespeare -- as they spoke it and heard it spoken -- was rough, rude and very earthy. Zero standards of spelling and enormous variations in pronounciation, even from county to county.
Listen to a political speech or a movie dialogue from the 1930's to see how much our language has changed in the last century alone. I used to think my friends in India had a funny way of speaking until it hit me that they spoke perfect English ... perfect Indian English ... and that the world was richer for it.
Language is a living thing. Now... about that aluminum trim...
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Budster:I'm not such whether it's correct to suggest that "porcsh" (i.e. without the 2nd sylable "E") is "wrong" - I also don't know of a single Englishman who pronounces Volkswagen correctly (i.e. "Folks vagen") - but one has to realise that in Britain, the anglicised version is perfectly acceptable - dare I say correctly - pronounced with a V and W sound.
I know it's "Porsch-er", but I'm quite happy to say Porsche. In fact if you say "Porsch-er" in most English-speaking countries, people think you're just trying to be smart.
I personally believe that, feeling obliged to use the correct spelling, one should also feel the need to find the proper pronunciation. This all is naturally restricted by one´s own capability of expression. We certainly won´t change how Americans pronounce Porsche and Aluminium but at least regarding family names one might be interested in the pronunciation within the country of origin.
That said, the "e" in Porsche is pronounced as the "a" in ambitious.
Whether a mistake or not is just an opinion at this point. The resulting market success of the Macan will be the standard shareholders will apply, and most of us as well I think. My opinion right now is that it makes more sense for the styling to closely follow the Cayenne, which is after all an incredible marketing success and Porsche's best selling model. I believe the potential buyers are looking for a smaller Cayenne, an SUV, and not something that resembles a luxury sedan.
Feb 17, 2012 2:24:16 PM
Were Porsche to follow the lead of the Range Rover Evoque, the Macan would have the family resemblance to the Cayenne but look slimmer and sportier. But since Porsche traditionally doesn't follow anyone's lead, we'll have to see.
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