Crown

Cool! 

"I don't mean to brag, but I am really good at self-deprecation."

Carlos from Spain:

Chris Harris' first contact and small clip. Looking foward to his review on EVO next month, I really enjoy his insights and usually identify with them.

http://community.evo.co.uk/users/Monkey-Harris/blogs/index.cfm/2011/11/19/CHRIS-HARRIS-New-Porsche-991-brief-thoughtsvid-clip

'So, much as I want to complain at the creep of everydayness, I just can’t in light of the surprising improvement in raw driving...'

CHRIS HARRIS: NEW PORSCHE 991, BRIEF THOUGHTS...

"Porsche has become adept at parrying criticism of the obvious kind – that’s my lasting impression from driving the new 991. Well, that and learning California has some sparkling roads.

Here’s how it works. I think the 991 has become unnecessarily big, but it is now so much more refined than the 997 – and I mean almost beyond comparison in terms of NVH and especially tyre noise – that it feels like a GT car. This is good for people who buy 911s for very different reasons than I would – which, I suppose, potentially makes it a bad thing for me.

 

But it’s hard to bemoan extra width when that itself brings the biggest improvement in the car as a driving object. The extra front track width, combined with the vast increase in wheelbase gives the 991 a superb chassis. Far less understeer, much more balance and, of course, the inherent traction benefits of being rear-engined remain. So see what I mean here? It’s bigger and far more comfortable – it’s a better cruiser, but it’s also a far, far better sports car to drive as-fast-as-you-dare. I didn’t expect that.

 

The new PDK calibration is way more immediate than before, with a much better balance of seamlessness and kick-in-the-back. The Carrera S motor is smooth, rev-hungry and yet can return over 30mpg at a fast cruise. The quality of trim and materials in the cabin makes a 997 feel like a Ford Ka.

 

So, much as I want to complain at the creep of everydayness, I just can’t in light of the surprising improvement in raw driving.

Expanded thoughts in the mag next month..."

Porsche 991 Teaser video by Chris Harris, Evo magazine

"Brief clip of 991 before full video goes live on www.evo.co.uk next week..."

Chris Harris - HD video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8xWxoxsJHY&hd=1

Chris Harris - Twitter link: http://twitter.com/harrismonkey

...looking forward to the full video review by Chris Harris! 

BC/GTS - as a matter of interest.. why do you keep repeating the posts of others?

We are all quite capable of clicking on a link and reading it's contents or watching a video in whatever resolution is available...

Just curious....

"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."

bluelines:

 

They also said they would never build a diesel 

Well...Porsche actually never did (engine). 

RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Carrera GTS Cabriolet PDK, BMW X5M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S Countryman All4

2012 Porsche 911: First Drive by Jalopnik...

John H:

BC/GTS - as a matter of interest.. why do you keep repeating the posts of others?

We are all quite capable of clicking on a link and reading it's contents or watching a video in whatever resolution is available...

Just curious....

 

I love it when he does it ... wish everyone would embed the videos rather than link. I find BC/GTS's actions to be a valuable public service! 

"I don't mean to brag, but I am really good at self-deprecation."

Carrageous:

John H:

BC/GTS - as a matter of interest.. why do you keep repeating the posts of others?

We are all quite capable of clicking on a link and reading it's contents or watching a video in whatever resolution is available...

Just curious....

 

I love it when he does it ... wish everyone would embed the videos rather than link. I find BC/GTS's actions to be a valuable public service! 

+1.  

I also like what BC GTS does.

The problem is that in this new version of Rennteam i cannot embed the videos... don`t know why...  (i think i`m not the only one...)

PureBlue:

Carrageous:

John H:

BC/GTS - as a matter of interest.. why do you keep repeating the posts of others?

We are all quite capable of clicking on a link and reading it's contents or watching a video in whatever resolution is available...

Just curious....

I love it when he does it ... wish everyone would embed the videos rather than link. I find BC/GTS's actions to be a valuable public service! 

+1.  

Me too...

pjd:

The problem is that in this new version of Rennteam i cannot embed the videos... don`t know why...  (i think i`m not the only one...)

There have been many people asking about this, its true, the new method of embedding videos is a bit more complicated. I decided to make a simple guide with simple images that will make it easy for all of you from now on. its simple once you now how  

Guide is here 
http://www.rennteam.com/forum/thread/20281131/Guide_How_to_EMBED_YouTube_videos_in_Rennteam/page1.html

Ferdie:

PureBlue:

Carrageous:

John H:

BC/GTS - as a matter of interest.. why do you keep repeating the posts of others?

We are all quite capable of clicking on a link and reading it's contents or watching a video in whatever resolution is available...

Just curious....

I love it when he does it ... wish everyone would embed the videos rather than link. I find BC/GTS's actions to be a valuable public service! 

+1.  

Me too...

+1 ... I really appreciate the effort he puts in ... makes it a real pleasure to read/watch etc 

997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen pickup, BMW Z4 2.5i Roadster Sterling Grey/Red

Thanks Carlos, but I would have to write this system down somewhere, and then I would forget where I wrote it.  GTS, keep 'em coming for this techno-challenged geezer...

Carlos from Spain:

pjd:

The problem is that in this new version of Rennteam i cannot embed the videos... don`t know why...  (i think i`m not the only one...)

 

There have been many people asking about this, its true, the new method of embedding videos is a bit more complicated. I decided to make a simple guide with simple images that will make it easy for all of you from now on. its simple once you now how  

Guide is here 
http://www.rennteam.com/forum/thread/20281131/Guide_How_to_EMBED_YouTube_videos_in_Rennteam/page1.html

Thanks Carlos (and Ferdie) 

Very good explanation from both!

pjd:

Carlos from Spain:

pjd:

The problem is that in this new version of Rennteam i cannot embed the videos... don`t know why...  (i think i`m not the only one...)

 

There have been many people asking about this, its true, the new method of embedding videos is a bit more complicated. I decided to make a simple guide with simple images that will make it easy for all of you from now on. its simple once you now how  

Guide is here 
http://www.rennteam.com/forum/thread/20281131/Guide_How_to_EMBED_YouTube_videos_in_Rennteam/page1.html

Thanks Carlos (and Ferdie) 

Very good explanation from both!

Didn't realise it was so difficult for others to embed...once the system has been explained - it's not rocket science

Oh well, if most seem happy with duplication then so be it...

Personally I find it irritating and unnecessary.

"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."

easy_rider911:

Ferdie:

PureBlue:

Carrageous:

John H:

BC/GTS - as a matter of interest.. why do you keep repeating the posts of others?

We are all quite capable of clicking on a link and reading it's contents or watching a video in whatever resolution is available...

Just curious....

I love it when he does it ... wish everyone would embed the videos rather than link. I find BC/GTS's actions to be a valuable public service! 

+1.  

Me too...

+1 ... I really appreciate the effort he puts in ... makes it a real pleasure to read/watch etc 

I'd be +6 at this point right? Whenever i see someone post a link to a video I know BC/GTS is going to post the video, makes things so much easier. I thanks him too. 

Enmanuel:

easy_rider911:

Ferdie:

PureBlue:

Carrageous:

John H:

BC/GTS - as a matter of interest.. why do you keep repeating the posts of others?

We are all quite capable of clicking on a link and reading it's contents or watching a video in whatever resolution is available...

Just curious....

I love it when he does it ... wish everyone would embed the videos rather than link. I find BC/GTS's actions to be a valuable public service! 

+1.  

Me too...

+1 ... I really appreciate the effort he puts in ... makes it a real pleasure to read/watch etc 

I'd be +6 at this point right? Whenever i see someone post a link to a video I know BC/GTS is going to post the video, makes things so much easier. I thanks him too. 

I really don't have the appetite, or the right, to clog up this most valuable of current threads...

I am however really amazed at the response to my initial enquiry, which is all it was!!

Not so very long ago regular users would have been clambering to shout 'REPOST', but now it seems to serve them as a valuable asset...

I really appreciate some of BC/GTS's posts, especially the multi-photographic offerings, but to act as an enlarger, enhancer or clarifier is simply repetition.

As Carlos and Ferdie have pointed out...It really isn't difficult to embed anything.  But that's really not the point!  If someone posts a 'simple link', how difficult can it be to click on it, read it, or re-size the video.. if that's what they require?

Makes no sense to me!... but now let's get on with what this thread is intended for... My apologies for interrupting the flow..

"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."

First drive: 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera S...

(15 November 2011, LA Times)

2012 Porsche 911 Carrera S -- LA Times -- article link

Leawood911:

regarding the 991 GT3 with PDK. 

As I recall the PDK could not be used easily with the GT1 Le Mans block (Metzger) which is why we never got PDK in the GT3 or GT2 (but somehow on the Turbo?)

Since the GT1 derived block will not return on the 991 GT3 I would not bet against PDK being an option - a very popular one.

It will be interesting how the new GT3 engine compares to the old 997 GT1 block.

A couple of days ago I had an interesting conversation with the OPC salesman with whom I configured and bought bought both my 997 Turbo and my 997 GT2 from, regarding the upcoming 991 model releases, known options, etc. He stated that the GT3RS 4.0 litre engine will not continue into the 991 Turbo and GT models, so it's going to very interesting to see what happens in the next couple of years, for the engines and transmissions offered as the 991 model range expands.

This is quite an interesting video. Indicates that the sunroof will be available in Glass rather soon. Also interesting that the rear spoiler extends even further if driving with the sunroof open at a speed above 120km/h. I thought this thing with further extending the rear spoiler only did apply for cars with SPASM -20mm

On Order: 991 C2S Basalt Black/Black - PDK, PSE, SPASM, SportChrono, etc.
Sold: 997.2 C2S Meteor Grey/Black - PDK, PSE, LSD, SportChrono, etc.
Sold: 997.1 C2S Black/Black - PSE, PCCB, -20mm/LSD, Short-shifter, SportChrono, etc.

Another interesting thing I noticed in this video are the "Black out headlights". Wonder if this also will be an option soon or if it's just the greyish look of PDLS that is shown as black in this rendered model

On Order: 991 C2S Basalt Black/Black - PDK, PSE, SPASM, SportChrono, etc.
Sold: 997.2 C2S Meteor Grey/Black - PDK, PSE, LSD, SportChrono, etc.
Sold: 997.1 C2S Black/Black - PSE, PCCB, -20mm/LSD, Short-shifter, SportChrono, etc.

When you order sunroof you will get that further spoiler position that is a standard with PDCC/-20mm option. BUT, with -20mm spoiler extendes further when you use LC or when you choose Sport + mode.

Little hint... If you order Sport Design package(or even better a Aero package) you will get even better aerodynamics since duckt tail is always in the same position. Also belive it or not you will save some weight since there is no electric motor for the spoiler at the rear. All according to my P source.

Thanks for the valuable info KresoF1! Interesting that it's weight saving. Based on looks only the duck-tale looks heavier than the integrated standard spoiler.

Do you know what happens if you have -20mm+sunroof (which I have on my order btw ) and if your car is on idle and you extend the spoiler manually by pushing the button on the center console. Would it extend to the lower position at this point if you have selected Sport mode or Normal mode and if you have engaged Sport+ it will extend even further even at stand still

Your P-source didn't mention anything about the glass-roof and when this will be available?

On Order: 991 C2S Basalt Black/Black - PDK, PSE, SPASM, SportChrono, etc.
Sold: 997.2 C2S Meteor Grey/Black - PDK, PSE, LSD, SportChrono, etc.
Sold: 997.1 C2S Black/Black - PSE, PCCB, -20mm/LSD, Short-shifter, SportChrono, etc.

hog:

Leawood911:

regarding the 991 GT3 with PDK. 

As I recall the PDK could not be used easily with the GT1 Le Mans block (Metzger) which is why we never got PDK in the GT3 or GT2 (but somehow on the Turbo?)

Since the GT1 derived block will not return on the 991 GT3 I would not bet against PDK being an option - a very popular one.

It will be interesting how the new GT3 engine compares to the old 997 GT1 block.

A couple of days ago I had an interesting conversation with the OPC salesman with whom I configured and bought bought both my 997 Turbo and my 997 GT2 from, regarding the upcoming 991 model releases, known options, etc. He stated that the GT3RS 4.0 litre engine will not continue into the 991 Turbo and GT models, so it's going to very interesting to see what happens in the next couple of years, for the engines and transmissions offered as the 991 model range expands.

...now where could Porsche find a 500bhp high-revving naturally aspirated engine with motorsport heritage for the 991 GT3? 

Porsche Motorsport Engine -- Video Link

...thanks to Porsche and Chris Harris!

Porsche 911 Carrera S manual review by Autocar...

Porsche 911 3.8 Carrera S manual (First Drive)

Porsche 911 Carrera S PDK review by Autocar...

Porsche 911 3.8 Carrera S PDK (First Drive)

 

Cool, thanks for posting.

"I don't mean to brag, but I am really good at self-deprecation."

Porsche 991 dealer launch (Cape Town)

I can't remember seeing better score lately for any other car...

http://www.topgear.com/uk/porsche/911/verdict

:)

''911 is a masterpiece, but so it bloody should be. They’ve been fiddling with it for 50 years...''

Boxster Coupe GTS:

hog:

Leawood911:

It will be interesting how the new GT3 engine compares to the old 997 GT1 block.

A couple of days ago I had an interesting conversation with the OPC salesman with whom I configured and bought bought both my 997 Turbo and my 997 GT2 from, regarding the upcoming 991 model releases, known options, etc. He stated that the GT3RS 4.0 litre engine will not continue into the 991 Turbo and GT models, so it's going to very interesting to see what happens in the next couple of years, for the engines and transmissions offered as the 991 model range expands.

...now where could Porsche find a 500bhp high-revving naturally aspirated engine with motorsport heritage for the 991 GT3? 

 

Perhaps this - i.e. the engine from the RS Spyder - is what Wolfgang Hatz had in mind when he said "a flat-eight will fit" (see the Car & Driver interview posted a few pages back).  Would be a very interesting development.

Fascinating conclusion from Car Magazine

Verdict

It’s more refined, more comfortable, and more economical than ever before, but what really matters is that it still has that unique 911 feel and character. The outgoing Carrera GTS is more interactive and involving, but this new Porsche 911 isn’t far behind – while offering up a much broader range of talents to a bigger audience.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Porsche-911-Carrera-S-2012-CAR-review/

Gen II Cayman S

GR:

Fascinating conclusion from Car Magazine

Verdict

It’s more refined, more comfortable, and more economical than ever before, but what really matters is that it still has that unique 911 feel and character. The outgoing Carrera GTS is more interactive and involving, but this new Porsche 911 isn’t far behind – while offering up a much broader range of talents to a bigger audience.

I think this is the operative phrase as far as PAG are concerned.

Otherwise, they could have kept the 997.2 in GTS guise for another 7-8 years, as there is nothing wrong with it as a sportscar, really. The days when Porsche could afford to keep the 3.0 SC/Carrera 3.2 practically unchanged from 1974 to 1989 and sell nevertheless, are over as the market is much more demanding nowadays.

"Form follows function"