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    22-set-2011 6.50.13

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    My overall impression: as a product, the end result is extraordinary. The curves, the detailed interior, the luxurious environment.... But when I go from my Carrera 3.2 to my 997 I still feel "at home". This is no longer the case, unless one comes from the Panamera.

    At the end, once we drive it we will get in love. No question about that, but I feel the romantic 911 design appeal is somehow lost. i will eventually buy one, just wanted to share that in the evolution there is something that will never come back. This also happened with the 996, but somehow the 997 managed to recapture.

    And as usual with each generation change: is it worth paying so much money to upgrade from a 997 Carrera to a 991? Or shall we wait to the more sophisticated versions?. Money not being an issue, I'd buy one in a second!


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    22-set-2011 6.59.49

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Mikla:

    The attention to detail is amazing:


    The attention to detail is called "Exclusive" and will cost you a hell of a lot of money. Smiley


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    22-set-2011 8.39.50

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Great detail shots Mikla, gracias. Especialy the cut-off pictures.wink


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    22-set-2011 8.52.12

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Rossi:

    Mikla:


    The attention to detail is amazing:








    The attention to detail is called "Exclusive" and will cost you a hell of a lot of money. Smiley






    That may be the case, but the 997 exclusive options never looked as good. Here is the same exclusive option (I think) on my GT3. You can hardly tell it is leather surrounding the air vents.

    22-set-2011 11.23.23

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    WAY:
    Rossi:

    Mikla:
    The attention to detail is amazing:

     
    The attention to detail is called "Exclusive" and will cost you a hell of a lot of money. Smiley

    That may be the case, but the 997 exclusive options never looked as good. Here is the same exclusive option (I think) on my GT3. You can hardly tell it is leather surrounding the air vents.



    Touch it... Smiley

    To be very honest, I do not see a big increase in attention to detail. Some solutions on the 991 are better than on the 997 but there are some things that I have to get my around and I am curious whether I will change my opinion in the end. The leather surround for the airvents, judging by the above picture, does only cover the outer frame and not the entire housing. Not bad but not necessarily the best solution either.

    Interesting consideration whether the 991 has lost the typical feeling of previous 911s. I personally don´t think so, the car is still the typical dish with a different twist. I have sat in the interior and enjoyed it a lot, the 997 in comparison is indeed less luxurious but does this seriously have to be a bad thing? That´s certainly something that certain options (trim panels, bucket seats) will change easily if necessary.

    22-set-2011 13.33.06

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Has anyone confirmed whether or not the back seat space is larger?  I looks a little bigger to me.

    22-set-2011 14.10.57

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    The rear seat space is slightly larger in legroom (from a kid standpoint). The rear cargo is bigger, but the headroom is not improved.


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    22-set-2011 14.38.48

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    991C2s: 7:40 (more) official

    http://www.worldcarfans.com/111092236810/2012-porsche-911-carrera-s-gets-its-nrburgring-lap-time

    22-set-2011 15.43.20

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    angel

    22-set-2011 15.49.42

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    neunelf:
    991C2s: 7:40 (more) official

    http://www.worldcarfans.com/111092236810/2012-porsche-911-carrera-s-gets-its-nrburgring-lap-time




    You are three pages too late. I linked it to the actual Go Auto article on page 54. What is interesting is that it used PDCC to do this lap time. I wonder what it would do without it.

    22-set-2011 15.57.10

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    WAY:
    neunelf:
    991C2s: 7:40 (more) official

    http://www.worldcarfans.com/111092236810/2012-porsche-911-carrera-s-gets-its-nrburgring-lap-time

     



    You are three pages too late. I linked it to the actual Go Auto article on page 54. What is interesting is that it used PDCC to do this lap time. I wonder what it would do without it.

    What type of tyres?


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    22-set-2011 15.57.26

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    PR starting with CAR magazine's ride with Walter Rohrl.. http://goo.gl/3WOSi

    22-set-2011 16.02.24

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    reginos:

    WAY:


    neunelf:

    991C2s: 7:40 (more) official



    http://www.worldcarfans.com/111092236810/2012-porsche-911-carrera-s-gets-its-nrburgring-lap-time


     






    You are three pages too late. I linked it to the actual Go Auto article on page 54. What is interesting is that it used PDCC to do this lap time. I wonder what it would do without it.


    What type of tyres?






    Here is the original link. Sounds like normal (P zero?) to me.

    WAY:
    This article confirmed 7:40 (I thought it was 7:38?) for C2S, normal tyres, PDCC and -20mm sport PASM. No mention of PCCB.
    http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/BE8C909287110025CA25790D0018317A



    22-set-2011 19.07.21

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    More pics of Racing Yellow.

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    22-set-2011 19.07.29

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    This IS NOT an official time. August Alchneiter NEVER SAID the 991 can do a 7:40. He said its "as fast as" a GT3. He never gave the time 7:40.
    However, in an interview with Car & Driver, he gave a specific time of 7:37. 

    So 7:37 is the official time.

    22-set-2011 19.47.02

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    I just saw this on the Porsche channel on Youtube, I hadnt seen it posted before but sorry if its a repost. 

    The car looks amazing in this video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucP3nz8Oedc&feature=feedu

    22-set-2011 19.50.04

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    ISUK:

    More pics of Racing Yellow.

    13167184134515.JPG

    Is that Snooky? 

    22-set-2011 20.01.03

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Enmanuel:
    ISUK:

    More pics of Racing Yellow.

    13167184134515.JPG

    Is that Snooky? 

    SmileySmiley

    That vid you posted was terrific. First time I've seen the rear lights, lit up. Smiley The rear of the car is the best part imo.  Amazing looking.. Even the front lights look better than in 1st pics...  If it drives as good as it looks think this car will be a huge success.

    What's people's estimates on the arrival/first delivery date/s of the US Turbo Cabriolet??? 

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    22-set-2011 20.03.59

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Enmanuel:

    I just saw this on the Porsche channel on Youtube, I hadnt seen it posted before but sorry if its a repost. 

     

     

    The car looks amazing in this video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucP3nz8Oedc&feature=feedu

    Smiley SmileySmiley

    22-set-2011 20.15.19

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Frankfurt Motor Show video: What it takes to design a 911...

    What-it-takes-to-design-a-911_Porsche-video-link

    Smiley SmileySmiley

    22-set-2011 20.17.33

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Frankfurt Motor Show video: The exterior design of the new Porsche 911...

    Exterior-design-of-new-Porsche 911_video-link

    Smiley SmileySmiley

    22-set-2011 20.39.28

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Thanks Boxter Coupe, for embedding the video and for the 2 new ones. This car looks much better in videos than in still shots, and theres a lot of small interesting details that make the overall look so great.

    22-set-2011 20.44.10

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Carrara:

    So 7:37 is the official time.


    I just dug out an old article and the three times stated (8:04 min, 7:50 min and 7:37 min) are for std. Carrera, std. Carrera S and Carrera S with all performance-enhancing options.

    22-set-2011 20.55.32

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Nice cutout animation by SportAuto, just click on the image to continue (after following the link).

    Schnittmodell-Porsche-911-Carrera-S-991-fotoshowImage-61d622d0-529974.jpg

    22-set-2011 22.17.58

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    STRADALE:

    What's people's estimates on the arrival/first delivery date/s of the US Turbo Cabriolet???

     

     

     

    Greg, I seriously hates quoting you, so much stuff to delete first, seems like your sig is getting bigger :)

    I think US and Canada would have around the same launch dates, my dealer estimate the Turbo comes 2013 in year and not model year, figures they launch the Cab a year after so that would makes it 2014.

    22-set-2011 22.28.43

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    7:37 is an amazing time. What will 991 GT3 be capable of? 7:25? 7:30?
    And new Turbo and GT2 will be also very very fast on the Ring.

    My prediction for GT2 is 7:20))

    22-set-2011 22.40.38

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    ISUK:

    nberry:


    Damn, that is about five miles from my house. They are entering an area known as University City which is home to a large shopping mall. 



    To be honest, but for the convoy I am not so sure I would have recognized it was a 991.Smiley


    C'mon Nick, surely you must have been able to hear the sonorous roar of all those flat sixes for miles  Smiley

    SmileySmileySmileySmiley

    No; more like Prius roar. I can't freaking believe Porsche would castrate their sport cars with a pussy exhaust. It is embarrassing. Smiley


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    22-set-2011 23.07.27

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    It's a good time to be a Porsche affectionado.  

    22-set-2011 23.38.40

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    and a place like Rennteam to share pics, opinions, and concerns about the new 911!
     


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    23-set-2011 6.14.38

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Ferdie:

    Nice cutout animation by SportAuto, just click on the image to continue (after following the link).

    Note well (in the 4th cross-section, I think) that a metal rod appears to connect the steering wheel to the front wheels.  And there was everyone thinking that it was only connected by Bluetooth.Smiley

     
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