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    Aug 23, 2011 4:11:04 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Gnil:
    reginos:

    From the official release information, PDCC on the Carrera S is the new thing as regards dynamics.

    Lots of consumption&emission measures.


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     .... and why no  0 to 100km/h ( 62 mp/h ) time with the manual gearbox Smiley Would it be that these times are worst then the 997.2 PDK Carrera S ? Smiley  Smiley

     I would think so, PDK should be faster in 0-100 times due to its efficiency, so I guess as well thats why  they use the PDK when they talk about acceleration times.


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    Aug 23, 2011 4:11:30 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Bicolor interior in black/platinum.

    Bicolour black platinum 2 SunCoast.JPG

    Aug 23, 2011 4:22:39 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    I thought I'd use the pictures posted to create another comparison, based on the dimension of the Autocar(?) article. But when I drew some check lines (yellow) from the bottom of the windscreen, the bottom of the headlight cluster, and the corner where the door meets the glasshouse, it seems that their comparitive sketch is only accurate wrt overall dimensions. So, take this picture with a grain of salt.

    I didn't want to withhold it from you though.

    991vs997.2.jpg


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    Aug 23, 2011 4:25:21 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    With 5 shift planes , I wonder how many downshift overrevs are gonna happen to newbies who  drive enthusiastically ? OTOH , one shouldn't be in 5th or 6th gear driving in that fashion anyway, so time will tell.

     

     

     

    Aug 23, 2011 4:27:16 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Nicer  - but would really  "pop"   if the carpets were black, as most " sporty " competitors have now .

    Aug 23, 2011 4:27:18 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Performance for the 7 speed manual 0 - 100 is : Carrera - 4.8 secs, Carrera S - 4.5 secs.

    Aug 23, 2011 4:37:54 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    ISUK:

    Performance for the 7 speed manual 0 - 100 is : Carrera - 4.8 secs, Carrera S - 4.5 secs.

    4.5s the same as 997.2 3.8 PDK in Sport

    Do you know about 0-160?


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    Aug 23, 2011 5:08:40 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    ISUK:

    Bicolor interior in black/platinum.

    Bicolour black platinum 2 SunCoast.JPG


    Nope, you've erroneously posted the interior of a smart family saloon, not a sports car. Please check your upload file again. Also, a manual 7 speed gear box is more sensible in a 50 ton truck with the driver having to double clutch - but not the PDK variety... Isn't this all getting a bit too busy/complicated..? I think the 7 speed manual gearbox with have people converting to PDK in droves...
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    Aug 23, 2011 5:10:38 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    http://www.porsche-stuttgart.de/portal/pics/artwork/991/911Preisliste.pdf

    http://www.porsche-stuttgart.de/portal/pics/artwork/991/911Katalog.pdf

     

    Aug 23, 2011 5:22:11 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    I hope that everybody is happy with my previous post.Smiley

    Credits goes to my friend that works for P. I called him and asked about pdf version of 991 catalogue and german price list and only one hour later it was posted on Porsche Zentrum Stuttgart web site. Smiley

    All info is in these pdfs! Enjoy!Smiley

    Aug 23, 2011 5:30:02 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    ISUK:

    Here is a good photo of the sunroof.

    Sunroof.JPG

     

    In US Porsche forums there are always threads arguing about the sunroof , which has been mandatory in the US in recent years. I think it should be optional, but I like the sunroof as it has been offered up to the 997. The sunroof above is simply hideous and has no place in a sports car.

     


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    Aug 23, 2011 5:31:13 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Thanks KresoF1! Good pic of the back seats, but whilst they indicate perhaps a more comfortable backrest, they look like the pop ups on an old Zafira. Again vert unsporty IMO, even if they might be more practical...
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    Aug 23, 2011 5:36:27 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Awesome post Kreso! Thank you! Smiley Smiley


    Aug 23, 2011 5:36:28 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    ADias:
    ISUK:

    Here is a good photo of the sunroof.

    Sunroof.JPG

     

    In US Porsche forums there are always threads arguing about the sunroof , which has been mandatory in the US in recent years. I think it should be optional, but I like the sunroof as it has been offered up to the 997. The sunroof above is simply hideous and has no place in a sports car.

     Though I have not driven it, it seems the new 991 is keeping with the 911 sportiness but is starting to become a 'GT' car sort of speak.

     

    Aug 23, 2011 5:42:17 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    To put it succinctly: I'M IN LOVE.

    Does anyone know if there's an English version of the 991 catalog out there? I'm sure lots of us would appreciate it!

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    Aug 23, 2011 5:45:03 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Why have they put the iPod connection in the cubby hole? Far easier to get to in the centre console...
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    Aug 23, 2011 6:02:49 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     Thanks Kreso for the PDFs! Lots of great images in there! Do you by chance have an english version?

    Aug 23, 2011 6:03:15 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     Colours, from the Kreso's PDF

    http://imageshack.us/f/691/48471930.jpg

    Aug 23, 2011 6:04:43 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    reginos:
    ISUK:

    Performance for the 7 speed manual 0 - 100 is : Carrera - 4.8 secs, Carrera S - 4.5 secs.

    4.5s the same as 997.2 3.8 PDK in Sport

    Do you know about 0-160?

     Carrera 10.4 s

    Carrera S  9.4s 

    Aug 23, 2011 6:06:01 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Many thanks Kreso Smiley 

    Aug 23, 2011 6:24:41 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Thanks Kreso Smiley


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    Aug 23, 2011 6:31:32 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Budster:
    Why have they put the iPod connection in the cubby hole? Far easier to get to in the centre console...

    Surely intended to keep your iPod out of view. 

    I assume it can now be controlled through the head unit?  Smiley


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    Aug 23, 2011 6:39:40 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Joost:

    I thought I'd use the pictures posted to create another comparison, based on the dimension of the Autocar(?) article. But when I drew some check lines (yellow) from the bottom of the windscreen, the bottom of the headlight cluster, and the corner where the door meets the glasshouse, it seems that their comparitive sketch is only accurate wrt overall dimensions. So, take this picture with a grain of salt.

    I didn't want to withhold it from you though.

    991vs997.2.jpg


    Amazing, thank you! The brothers are quite different.

    Aug 23, 2011 6:41:21 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    KresoF1:

    http://www.porsche-stuttgart.de/portal/pics/artwork/991/911Preisliste.pdf

    http://www.porsche-stuttgart.de/portal/pics/artwork/991/911Katalog.pdf

     


    Thank you Kreso! The red Tequipment car looks stunning.

    Aug 23, 2011 6:41:40 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Thanks a lot, Kreso. Very helpful

    So far as I see, furthermore no iPhone integration to the PCM. Only with HFP but than only by using the iphone antenna.
    This part is solved in a BMW years ago.


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    Aug 23, 2011 6:43:41 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Kreso, you're the man!


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    Aug 23, 2011 6:45:49 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    OK... How about some technical discussion?

    I will bet that UK car press will like 991 base model more then 991S. Why? PDCC or PDCC with SPASM are NOT available for base 991. We all know from Panamera that PDCC is a great thing, just it is also offering little bit synthetic overall feel.

    My prediction:

    For purists-base 991 PDK with 20", SPASM, PTV Plus and Sport Chrono Plus(a must!!).

    For ultimate 991S PDK with PDCC/SPASM, Sport Chrono Plus and PCCBs.

    BTW, new fully variable electronically controlled rear diff(a la e-diff on 458) PTV Plus is ONLY available for PDK models. For manual models old LSD(PTV) is available.

    New Steeringwheel Plus is also interesting thing-something like servotronic.

     

    Aug 23, 2011 6:46:14 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    Joost:

    Kreso, you're the man!

    Absolutely. Smiley


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    Aug 23, 2011 6:49:39 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

    KresoF1 ...Many thanks


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    Aug 23, 2011 6:50:43 PM

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    Re: Ladies and gentlemen, the new 991...

     Thanks KresoF1!! 

     

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