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    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    Then we will no doubt meet there.1319128138121drink.gif

    I suspect that it will be a 3 year program , with the first year being a development year. The success (or not) of the program will determine if the board will approve a further 3 years.

    Please note that the above is under normal conditions, and does not take into account the regulatory environment that can become somewhat less...palatable, depending on the mood of the ACO.


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    Porsche and Audi will battle at Le Mans in 2014

    (11 October 2011)

     

    With Porsche’s bold announcement of a top-tier, mega-euro return to Le Mans in 2014 to race in the LMP1 prototype category, the interest that has followed—and an even greater wave of speculation and intrigue—should keep the project in the limelight until the car breaks cover.

    While details from Stuttgart have been sparse, it’s known Porsche’s decision to join the prototype ranks was made without consultation or advisement from Audi, its sister company and reigning Le Mans LMP1 champions.

    To date, the marques have avoided direct competition, but that changed when Porsche fired its salvo at the Ingolstadt company just 24 hours before the Audi team took the green flag at Le Mans in June. Insiders say Audi was less than pleased.

    In a break from tradition, Porsche is not expected to offer its LMP1 car for sale, and is reportedly prepared to sink an eight-figure budget into building the world’s most technologically advanced Le Mans car.

    Porsche quietly parked its innovative, second-generation 911 GT3 R Hybrid racer in September, shifting its attention to the quasi-prototype 918 RSR. Considered an interim car to bridge the 911 Hybrid and its upcoming Le Mans racer, the competition version of the 918 will be built by the same chassis and engine teams that created the dominant LMP2 RS Spyder.

    Fitted with the 911’s electro-mechanical hybrid system, the 918 RSR generates a combined 767 hp with its RS Spyder-derived, direct-injected V-8 engine at full chat. Sources within Porsche say the unique V-8 Hybrid propulsion system will likely power the 2014 Le Mans car.

    Porsche wants nothing more than to displace Audi in the internecine battle for German supremacy at La Sarthe, and with its commitment to advancing hybrid technology, the company just might have the key to ending years of diesel domination.

     

    Porsche-and-Audi-will-battle-at-Le-Mans-in-2014_Road-and-Track

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    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    19 Month to go....Smiley

    Hope to see a lot of great people at the Rennteam-Grandstands at Le Mans.

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    Porsche is beginning to ramp up for their return in 2014:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=jAwpYIcUcLU&NR=1

     

    sorry - I cant seem to upload the videos.Smiley

     

     

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    The 70's one is also very nice indeed!


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    Thanks reginos! How did you do that?yes


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    On Youtube click "share" then "embed". Make sure the field "Use old embed code" is ticked and copy the long code and paste it to rennteam under "Embed Media".


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    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    This is most amusing (and quite incredible)

    http://993c4s.com/porsche-products/porsche-artwork/racing-liveries-in-lego-form/


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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/FRDQi1YVg-c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

     

     

    not sure if this one has been posted but it's the coolest clip.  

     

     

     


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    So apparently Porsche is not giving up on the GT3 R Hybrid just yet in favor of the 918RSR as previously rumored. 
    If this is true (and we assume it is as it was mentioned during Porsche's "Night of Champions" last night) then I suspect we will never get to see the 918RSR evolve into a factual racing car.


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    Board approves further races for the 911 GT3 R Hybrid

    Stuttgart. Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG continues to invest in the development of innovative drive technologies in motorsport. A further developed version of the Porsche 911 GT3 R Hybrid will return to race tracks in 2012. With the rolling race laboratory, Porsche aims to gain extra practical experience under racing conditions and make the hybrid drive even more efficient.

    “There is no way around the hybrid technology in motorsport,” stressed Wolfgang Hatz, Board Member for Research and Development, on Saturday on the occasion of the end of year Porsche ‘Night of Champions’ celebrations. “With the 911 GT3 R Hybrid project, we have shown how you can test important future technologies on the race track and pave the way for motorsport success in the future. We will continue to determinedly blaze this trail and further develop the hybrid technology.”

    The Porsche 911 GT3 RSR for the 2012 season celebrated its world debut in front of invited team bosses, race drivers and series organisers. The GT race car, which is now five centimetres wider at the rear and with almost an extra 15 centimetres on the front fenders, will be fielded by Porsche customer teams in the FIA World Endurance Championship, the American Le Mans Series, the Le Mans Series, the International GT Open as well as the Le Mans 24 Hours. In the USA alone, four new vehicles will be fielded by three different teams.

    Like in previous years, Porsche supports its most successful customer teams in 2012 with works drivers. The line up of pilots stays the same with Jörg Bergmeister, Timo Bernhard, Romain Dumas, Wolf Henzler, Marco Holzer, Marc Lieb, Richard Lietz, Patrick Long and Patrick Pilet. “To win races you have to have the right race drivers. And there’s no doubt that we have them,” stated Matthias Müller, Chairman of the Executive Board at Porsche AG.

    Most of the Porsche factory pilots kick off the season at the Daytona 24 hour race on 28 January. Jörg Bergmeister and Patrick Long race a Porsche 911 GT3 Cup for Flying Lizard Motorsports. Marco Holzer supports the Alex Job squad, with Wolf Henzler and Patrick Pilet driving for the TRG team. Marc Lieb competes for the accomplished Brumos Racing crew, with Richard Lietz teaming up with Magnus Racing. The Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup Rookie of the Year winner also competes at Daytona. Kévin Estre takes the wheel of a TRG-911.

    In 2012, the Porsche Carrera Cup Deutschland heads into its 23rd season and will continue to run as support to the DTM. The contract with the series organisers was recently extended for another three years. Taking over the helm of the long established Porsche Carrera Cup Deutschland is Andrea Hagenbach, who has worked in the organisation of the series for the last 13 years. She takes over from Helmut Greiner who is retiring.

    Source [Porsche]


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    scud:

     

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/FRDQi1YVg-c

    not sure if this one has been posted but it's the coolest clip.  

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    Porsche in Le Mans - The 1990s...

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    Porsche in Le Mans - The Future...

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    Romain Dumas: the future between Audi and Porsche... (Le Mans)

    (14 December 2011)

    December is the month of rumours. It is difficult to know exactly what plans are simmering. We spoke to Romain Dumas, works driver for Audi and Porsche to find out.

    The evening gala of Audi Motorsport did not provide the expected information about the upcoming season of endurance racing for the manufacturer. In 2012, the R18 will face new hybrids from Toyota and perhaps even Peugeot.
     
    -- In December 2010, the Audi R18 was presented as a car designed to accommodate a hybrid system. Since then, we have heard nothing more about it...
     
    Romain Dumas: "Everyone is working on the hybrid, Audi included, because the regulations for LM P1 support that initiative. Developing such a system takes time and deep pockets, but the results are there, both in terms of ecology and performance. However, for private teams, it will be difficult to find the resources because new technologies are very expensive."
     
    -- Will it be a hybrid that wins the 24 Hours of Le Mans 2012?
     
    "Maybe ... But those who choose this option will need development because it will not be easy to go for 24 hours!"
     
    -- Why?
     
    "Through my experience at the wheel of the Porsche 911 GT3 R hybrid, I know it is difficult to use such vehicles to 100% without error. The system works all the time, and works well. For the driver, it is still a new parameter to manage. Porsche, has had a few years to master all that ... We'll see which manufacturer will be most effective to achieve this with a prototype."
     
    -- Speaking of Porsche. What do you think the return of the manufacturer in 2014 in the premier class (LM P1) of the 24 Hours of Le Mans?
     
    "It's beautiful, very attractive ... This is what many people have been waiting for. This is a big challenge, but Porsche does not start from zero because the experience with the RS Spyder is still recent."
     
    -- Will you be in this new adventure?
     
    "2014 ... it is a long way off. I do not want to miss the 2012 and 2013 races. This year, I will still be at Audi and Porsche in GT. So ... yes, obviously I think about it!"
     
    -- Porsche has announced a return to endurance and then ... Nothing. Do you know more?
     
    "Yes, though I do not know ... maybe not everything, but I know a lot!"
     
    ...Romain alas refuses to say more at this time...
     
     
     

     

    ALMS: 911 GT3 R Hybrid beats all GTs at Laguna Seca

    (September 2011)

    The 911 GT3 R Hybrid finished ahead of all the other GT-class cars in the American Le Mans Series at Laguna Seca, California. Works drivers Romain Dumas (France) and Richard Lietz (Austria) charted the fastest race lap, and took just three pit stops during the six-hour race whilst opponents needed five. Starting from the rear of the grid, the GT3 R Hybrid chased through the field to take the lead within a few laps, and turned in consistently fast lap times.

    “The start phase was huge fun, because it was relatively easy to overtake the slower competitors,” said Dumas. “But it’s even more fun because we can apply superior tactics thanks to the lower fuel consumption. We are much more flexible and we made the most of this today.”
     
    Lietz added: “We had the least pit stops of all the teams and showed clearly what the Porsche 911 GT3 R Hybrid can do. We didn’t experience one technical problem and left all the other GT vehicles behind us. Our expectations have been far exceeded.”
     
     
     

    911 GT3 R Hybrid in Laguna Seca -- Video Link

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    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    Audi is gunning for Timo Bernhard to become a permanent Audi driver.  It's disappointing to see , especially as Romain and Timo have raced together for so long and make a formidable pair.


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    Unfortunately Porsche has lost the first part of the race. It will not be the first manufacturer to enter a hybrid LMP1 in Le Mans.

    http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/toyota-ts030-lmp1-hybrid-revealed/

    Toyota will have a full two year advantage over Porsche when they finally enter their car at Le Mans. Although Porsche has gained lots of experience through their GT3 Hybrid program, it is not quite the same as  running a full fledged LMP1 program. 

    It's going to be interesting to see how the Toyota hybrid system compares to the Porsche system.


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    Thankfully someone can challenge Audi this year. Even though I love Audi I wasn't looking forward to a unearned 1, 2,3 victory. Bring it Porsche, can't wait to see your car. I'll be at Le Mans 2014 to watch your return to the top class.


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    I'm not completely convinced that Toyota will be a serious challenge to Audi this year. There is a tremendous difference in torque levels between the diesel and gasoline engines


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    That's true. Good point. But still nice to see Toyota show up with a new car.


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    it's stupid to have restricted the gasoline engines to such low capacity compared to diesels. Let them have same capacity and then show which one is more efficient, 'cc' for 'cc'... We all know what would be the answer!

    This unfounded worldwide diesel worshiping  has started to jump onto my nerves...


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    It's all political...and commercial.

    The ACO's  climbed on the band wagon  having fallen prey to the dooms day /sky falling on our heads/ tree hugging propaganda.  It was introduced in the name of  "the only way we can continue racing.....".

    Peugeot and Audi had a strong desire to sell diesel engined cars, and the ACO was certainly not adverse to having a French manufacturer with a strong possibility of winning Le Mans.

    Given the two scenarios, we had the makings of a  "perfect storm". 


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

    Audi will be bringing a hybrid to Le Mans this year, and Toyota have clearly stated  “We want to be the first hybrid car on a podium of the World Endurance Championship.” 

    This leaves Porsche LMP1 hybrid project with just one goal: Win Le Mans for Porsche again.

     


    Re: Porsche Back in Le Mans with LMP1 2014

     
    ALMS Racing said...
     
     
    (8 February 2012)
     
    "Porsche's Jens Walther - Weissach increasing number of engineers to 500 (from 130) to work on LMP1, 918 RSR and GT3 Hybrid projects!"

    Source: ALMS Notes -- Twitter

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    ALMS Racing said...
     
     
    (8 February 2012)
     
    "Porsche's Jens Walther - Weissach increasing number of engineers to 500 (from 130) to work on LMP1, 918 RSR and GT3 Hybrid projects!"

    Source: ALMS Notes -- Twitter

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    Clip promotionnel des 24 Heures du Mans 2012...

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