Apr 8, 2011 2:10:00 PM
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
fritz:
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1. Stop the cheesy limited edition models. It undermines brand value.
2. Introduce the Turbo S models (911, Panamera, Cayenne) earlier.
1. Limited edition models are end-of-lifecycle products, they don't undermine the brand value but help save sales until the new model starts(which is pretty important for Porsche since they start a "mixed" production with the "old" and new model).
In fact, special edition models which offer the buyer good value help maintain residual values for existing owners of the model which is being wound down, since the alternative would be to discount the cars during the last months just to keep the production line running.
The knowledge that a brand discounts heavily undermines brand value.
Fritz, though the rational you offer for special editions makes sense, in practice I am not sure that is the case. Dealers are discounting end model runs. I doubt special editions shore up residuals though I am certain they are profitable for Porsche.
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
There seems to be quite a few 997.2's sitting on showroom floors waiting to sell here. In Reading they have a nice white GTS waiting to go and a black demo GTS too. Surely if they hang around too long then maybe one will get a good discount.
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
Sometimes we forget that there is a shoe for every foot. My wife would not part with her 08 Orange Boxster S LE and she doesn't care what it's residual value is either, she got exactly what she wanted with specifications that would have cost about $17K more than we paid for the "limited edition".
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
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fritz:
In fact, special edition models which offer the buyer good value help maintain residual values for existing owners of the model which is being wound down, since the alternative would be to discount the cars during the last months just to keep the production line running.
The knowledge that a brand discounts heavily undermines brand value.
Fritz, though the rational you offer for special editions makes sense, in practice I am not sure that is the case. Dealers are discounting end model runs. I doubt special editions shore up residuals though I am certain they are profitable for Porsche.
There's discounting and then there's discounting.
Dealers will surely knock off a few % for a good repeat buyer and/or if they need to move a particular car or particular model, but the discounting which harms residuals is the deep price-cutting that GM and Chrysler particularly have gone in for with banner-headline advertising campaigns selling a yard full of stock purely on price. After they did that for a while, their list prices became meaningless and used car prices naturally became oriented to the lowest discounted prices instead of list.
The special models I'm referring to are those which sell above base model list but, because they are loaded with options, still offer the buyer a good deal on a car in spite of the fact that it is to be replaced by a newer model in the foreseeable future.
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Apr 9, 2011 9:50:42 AM
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
Natural leather for all 911 models as standard...in what mind, spending 100.000€ and not getting natural leather, not even in the seats, but in the dash board either....
Sport backet seats at no cost....
Sport exhaust as an option but at no cost at all.
Last but not least, design a seat that no matter how many times you enter, it will not wear out as easily as now, what I mean is the lateral part of the driver's seat..... its not the case of our car, because everytime I enter I am really carefull, but I have seen LOTS of 911 with sport seats or even standard seats totally in bad shape this area, and with less than 20.000kms....
Is it possible right now to order a 911 Cabriolet, with any colour choice you want in the roof ???
Do a GT3 Cabriolet, just like the 16M Scuderia or Performante edition of the gallardo.
Please make sure the 991 sounds at the levels of the 996 with PSE, or even louder...
MORE SOUND IN THE CABIN FOR ANY MODEL, LET THE SOUND ENTER MORE EASILY.....SPECIALLY IN THE TURBO !!! 
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Apr 9, 2011 5:52:44 PM
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
I want a Walter Rohrl Edition 911, something completely decide by him, be it turbo or NA, whatever color he would choose inside and out, whatever option he decide the car should have and whatever suspension tuning he would want in his own car.
Maybe it would be a NA 450 HP hardcore Ring car, maybe it would be a nice highway cruiser, who knows, but it would be a very special edition indeed.
Apr 10, 2011 1:08:07 AM
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
Whoopsy:
I want a Walter Rohrl Edition 911, something completely decide by him, be it turbo or NA, whatever color he would choose inside and out, whatever option he decide the car should have and whatever suspension tuning he would want in his own car.
Maybe it would be a NA 450 HP hardcore Ring car, maybe it would be a nice highway cruiser, who knows, but it would be a very special edition indeed.
Good idea! Like a Balboni edition for Porsche. I bet we'll see it.
Apr 10, 2011 4:34:32 AM
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
I had a nap and a nightmare.
Porsche did commission a Walter Rohrl Edition car.
It's a Cayenne Turbo!!!!! Black with black tinted windows and 24" gold plated spinner wheels and a impreza like hood scoop. Oh, and it comes with a Eminem CD blasting out from a 2000W stereo. Walter Rohrl posted with the car wearing a 2 inch thick gold chain around his neck and a gigantic gold Porsche crest.
Porsche used that same guy in those annoying VW ads promoting the car with rap stars and NBA stars doing cameo.
Apr 10, 2011 7:53:44 AM
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
Hehehehe. I am posting late to the discussion, and everyone has great points already 
I would say dials, not buttons
1) Dials for throttle sensitivity
2) Dials for suspension stiffness and damping
3) Dials for speed of steering
4) Dials for traction control
5) Dials for turbo boost
If one has two buttons, one wants 3.... or none. I like the feeling of infinitesimal control 
Oh and.. the Porsche audio systems... Better have an open space than the crappy systems they have on there
Apr 10, 2011 8:08:10 AM
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
intouch1:
agree, the GTS is a very good offering. imo the only edition that makes sense and offer actual value.
I'm very pleased with mine and don't regret ordering it in the slightest...
I would like to know, however, if Porsche will be introducing a 991 GTS earlier in the model cycle than with the 997? 
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
John H:
intouch1:
agree, the GTS is a very good offering. imo the only edition that makes sense and offer actual value.
I'm very pleased with mine and don't regret ordering it in the slightest...
I would like to know, however, if Porsche will be introducing a 991 GTS earlier in the model cycle than with the 997?
John, if Porsche does introduce a GTS early in the 991 life cycle, then it will not be such a good deal as yours is. It will then just be a normal variant within the range of 911 derivatives.
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
I don't regret ordering the Porsche. However, any car you buy invariably will be lacking an item you wish would have been incorporated into the car.
My issue is the exhaust sound because I firmly believe it is part of a sport car experience. Most car companies selling high performance cars sport or otherwise have incorporated aggressive but not over the top exhaust sounds.
Now it may be Porsche configuration and Boxer engine are unable to produce a sporty sound. I have no idea. But if Porsche can correct this deficiency (and that is what it is) I no doubt that Porsche owners would enjoy their cars even more.
BTW, improved exhaust should not be an option item. It should be part of the Porsche experience.
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Apr 12, 2011 8:19:31 AM
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
nick, I agree with you on the exhaust, but its not the boxer engine its the turbocharging, and especially bad with the 997TT, listen to a GT3 or a Carrera with sport exhaust and its completely different. Hopefully they will listen and try to overcome that in the 991TT, some turbocharged are able to sound good.
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
fritz:
John, if Porsche does introduce a GTS early in the 991 life cycle, then it will not be such a good deal as yours is. It will then just be a normal variant within the range of 911 derivatives.
Exactly.
Yes, Porsche is planning a 991 Carrera GTS as far as I heard.
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Apr 13, 2011 6:52:23 AM
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
GT3 and GT3 was/is never part of the regular 911 food chain, they are a branch off the main line for track focus group, the GT2 RS is at the top of that branch. The Turbo and Turbo S is part of another branch that focus more on Grand touring,
GTS could be called the top of the main 911 line.
Apr 13, 2011 10:18:10 PM
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
The future of Porsche...
As we look to the future, Porsche needs to establish a direct link to the future of Porsche Motorsport...
Fortunately, this will be simple for Porsche to accomplish and the outcome is a guaranteed success...
Porsche will launch a mid-engined supercar, with styling influenced by the 918 RSR racer, sharing selected components with the next generation 991 and Cayman, but with some of the most important components provided by Porsche Motorsport...
...so what should Porsche change?
The most important single component of any supercar is, of course, the engine...
Porsche Motorsport has produced some of the all time great naturally-aspirated engines and these should be at the core of the future 918 road car...
Porsche should offer two naturally aspirated, high revving, motorsport-derived engine options for the new 918 road car model:
Porsche Motorsport Flat-6 engine (GT1-derived Mezger)
4.0-litre naturally aspirated, water-cooled
500bhp
9000rpm
6-speed manual gearbox
Porsche Motorsport 4.0-litre flat-six engine to be unveiled in the 997 GT3 RS(R) 4.0-litre...
Porsche Motorsport V8 engine
4.5-litre naturally aspirated, water-cooled, DFI
565bhp
9500rpm
7-speed PDK Gearbox
Porsche Motorsport V8 engine derived from the RS Spyder...
Andreas Preuninger should oversee development of the Porsche 918 at Weissach, ensuring a direct link to Porsche Motorsport’s development of the 918 RSR racer...
...thanks to Chris Harris and Porsche for the videos!
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Apr 15, 2011 6:54:55 AM
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Re: What one thing would you tell Porsche to change
I would sell my organs to order the 918 GT3 with 4.0 flat-6 engine 
Also I LOVE the Autocar rendering, it's very very realistic i think. Plus it is stunning!!!
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