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Nov 30, 2010 8:42:15 PM
- Atzporsche
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
OMG stunning beauty. Kept it in showroom condition too. What is the color called? I love it, it's not mustard yellow... and its too dark for a 70s creme shade....
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Nov 30, 2010 9:20:25 PM
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Thanks for the compliments, folks. The color is Condor Yellow, a special color that I think was only available in 1961. I have never seen another yellow I like better. Not too pale, not too egg yolky. The car is a low mileage European version, with a speedo in kilometers and various other trim differences. I am the third owner (I bought it for $12,500 in 1971) and restored it to concours standards in 1992. I drive it often, and I swear the driver position, instrument layout and view over the front fenders feels very much the same as in modern Porsches. Say what one will about Porsche and its new expansive approach, it has remained very true to its heritage. Incidentally, the car's license is 1DBAR, hence my Rennteam moniker.
Back on the subject of this thread, I have been constantly amazed at how Porsche has improved its turbos. I had a 1976 turbo (black with black watch fabric seat inserts) which I modified over the years, and more recently a 2001 996 TT with substantial mods as well, but the new S is something over the top fantastic. Congrats to those owners on this thread--you have one splendid evolution of a car...
Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Joost:
Silver Carrera GT:
... I am now selling my Carrera GT...
I understand your rationale, but: NOOOOOOOO
http://www.luxury4play.com/porsche/62312-pics-my-cgt.html
Dec 2, 2010 11:59:59 PM
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Bought for $12,500 in 1971?
Can that be right? In 1970, you could have bought any Ferrari on the planet for that amount. A new 911 went for about $6,500 then.
Is that right and if it is, what could possibly have made it worth that much back then?
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Dec 3, 2010 2:18:55 AM
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Thought you were going to tell us that a white squirrel had got in there. 
That'll be Norbert, your own personal Porsche mechanic.
He appreciates a nice glass of cold draft beer now and again when he's off duty. Just saying, cos you might find find your warranty invalidated if you forget this. 
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Dasein:
Fritz,
LOL!!
That would be German beer right, maybe Spaten?
Don
NO! That's Bavarian. 
It's good enough for BMW mechanics but not for Norbert. 
He would prefer Schwabenbräu or any one of the other brews made around Stuttgart. 
He'd go for a Sam Adams before he'd drink a Spatenbräu. 
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Wow Fritz, thanks! That would have rubbed ol' Norbert the wrong way! When I drank Spaten it was from my BMW days of long ago (model 2002).
I once had a Heffe Weiss (spelling?) and it was good but I have no idea what part of Germany it's from.
As long as we're on the subject of beer, we Weiser's came from the Black Forest area so I've been told. I'd like to visit but I probably never will. Any beer to recommend from there?
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Dec 3, 2010 10:15:47 PM
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Carregeous, on the value/cost of my Super 90 Roadster in 1971, the $12,500 was almost a bargain at that time. The older cars (356s) were already increasing rapidly in price by then--good Speedsters were well over $20,000-and my car was a low mileage original with a fine history. It had been featured in Christophorus, in a national TV commercial (with Linda Evans), and had placed well in the Pebble Beach Concours. And its price has certainly justified itself over the years, as I was recently offered $80,000 for it.
On your values of Ferraris and Porsches in 1971, I can only say that my first Porsche--a new 1966 912--cost $4600, and the base 911 in 1966 was well over $6000. My new 1969 911S was $9800. I don't recall what my 1972 911E cost, but it was surely no less than $10,000. My 1974 Carrera RS 3.0 was $25,000, as was my best friend's 1974 Ferrari Daytona. Maybe you were referencing used Porsches or Ferraris in your post, but new Porsches were considerably more than $6500 in 1971, and Ferraris (depending of course on rarity and power) were considerably more than $12,500.
I think any further discussion on my car should be moved to a different thread. This thread is about Turbo S cars, and I only mentioned my car initially because someone had asked for a pic.
Dec 5, 2010 10:09:21 PM
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Interesting, Wonderbar, and thanks for the clarification. I had no idea prices had risen that high that soon. I bought a '67 912 off the showroom floor for around $5,000, so your 356 was and is obviously very special.
Congrats!
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Dec 5, 2010 10:26:57 PM
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Dec 5, 2010 10:32:01 PM
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Dec 24, 2010 4:35:26 PM
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Porsche Purist (a free blog I HIGHLY recommend to you) drove the turbo S. Here's what he had to say.
http://993c4s.com/cars/porsche-turbo/2011-911-turbo-s-review/
Don
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
Dasein:
Porsche Purist (a free blog I HIGHLY recommend to you) drove the turbo S. Here's what he had to say.
http://993c4s.com/cars/porsche-turbo/2011-911-turbo-s-review/
Don
"The Turbo S is so good it makes bad drivers good and good drivers dangerous." 
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Jan 26, 2011 7:24:33 PM
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Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
PorSchelover1:
The Turbo S makes 0-300 in 29s is stock? or tuning ECU ?
This car is probably stock. Its owner is a bit optimistic though.
I can see 0-300 km/h according to the speedo in 30s flat. As usual, speedo is not accurate. In this case, Turbo S needs to be doing cca 312 km/h on the speedo to be doing real 300 km/h (GPS).
So the real 0-300km/h time from this video is about 38s. Turbo S should be capable of time in 33-34s range (based on the GT Porsche high-speed test and a few others).
Re: New 997 Turbo S and Turbo S Cabriolet (2010)
mv:
PorSchelover1:
The Turbo S makes 0-300 in 29s is stock? or tuning ECU ?
This car is probably stock. Its owner is a bit optimistic though.
I can see 0-300 km/h according to the speedo in 30s flat. As usual, speedo is not accurate. In this case, Turbo S needs to be doing cca 312 km/h on the speedo to be doing real 300 km/h (GPS).
So the real 0-300km/h time from this video is about 38s. Turbo S should be capable of time in 33-34s range (based on the GT Porsche high-speed test and a few others).
My 997 Turbo does 0-300 kph in "real" 30 seconds and the 997 Turbo S stands no chance vs. my car from 220 kph to over 300 kph (already tried ). In the speed range below 220 kph however, the 997 Turbo S is a rocket.
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