Closecrayphile:
Shot 3
Dropdead gorgeous 
I can't find the words to desciribe how I like your 458.
Enjoy it in good health 
ONUR 
11 M3 Coupe AW 
09 Audi TTS Coupe - 07 997 Carrera S - 05 M3 Coupe - 03 M3 Coupe - 96 M3 Coupe EVO (PASS TIME HISTORY)
Enmanuel:
pride355:
Dropdead gorgeous
I can't find the words to desciribe how I like your 458.
Enjoy it in good health
I enjoy agreeing with you man, 100% word by word.
ONUR
11 M3 Coupe AW
09 Audi TTS Coupe - 07 997 Carrera S - 05 M3 Coupe - 03 M3 Coupe - 96 M3 Coupe EVO (PASS TIME HISTORY)
John H:
I did some research on the VAT issue and it seems you are right...to an extent.
"Whatcar" says the following...
You can avoid paying the 20% on cars delivered in 2011, but you might have to come up with a big enough deposit to cover the VAT – which the dealer will have to invoice for and pay straight away – to get them on your side.
It won't cost them a single penny extra to do this, so there's no reason they shouldn't want to help you out. The only person who would be slightly out of pocket would be the bloke on the VAT desk at Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs. Don't all weep at once.
The car you order must cost less than £100,000 and be delivered according to the manufacturer's usual schedules, within six months of order. That means you can't ask for a delivery to be delayed for any reason, to take advantage of the new registration plate in March, for instance.
You cannot use the following techniques if you are buying on finance.
You pay 17.5% VAT on cars costing less than £100,000 if:
• You order a new car, a dealer raises a full VAT invoice before the increase in the rate and pays the tax due at their next VAT return. You do not have to pay the full balance in this case.
• You pay for a car in full before the end of the year but, in the normal course of delivery schedules, it is registered in 2011, but no more than six months from order.
• You have ordered, paid for and registered a car before the end of 2010.
You pay the increased rate of 20% VAT:
• If you order a car after January 4, 2011.
• If you order a car now, but a VAT invoice isn't raised by the dealer before January 4 and the tax due isn't paid by the dealer at their next return.
• If you order a car now, a VAT invoice is raised and paid, but you ask for delivery to be purposefully delayed, perhaps in a bid to get the new registration plates in March or September.
• If the car you order is delivered more than six months from order
• If the car you order is worth more than £100,000.
I'm definitely contacting my OPC tomorrow re my GTS order..
However, if ''Whatcar'' are correct, Crayphile may still have a problem with a car valued at over £100,000..?
In no way do I wish to hi-jack this thread but, having consulted with my OPC, I'm told that, unless a car is actually built and delivered, it would contravene their franchise to sell it.
Maybe Ferrari see it differently - I don't know, but Iain you seem to be wrong as far as Porsche are concerned..
BTW - I'm more than happy with the deal they've offered on my new GTS...
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."
John,
Your OPC are talking nonsense. It does not contravene their franchise to accept payment for a forward order. That is a commercial decision on their part. Whoever is advising you on this evidently doesn't want to admit that their own company is unwilling to do this and is hiding behind a "franchise agreement" as cover. It was an OPC who offered me this deal not a Ferrari dealer. Ferrari dealers have very little control over accurate delivery dates unlike their Porsche counterparts.
I also checked the legal position with my tax accountant at Grant Thornton yesterday and he confirmed that HRMC have set the £100k threshold on one single transaction and a time deadline of 6 months for the goods or service to be provided is correct.
Here are some rushed shots I took today - my photography in no way does just to the car. The colour and its impact have exceeded my expectations. The car has not been cleaned or polished yet - that will now be in January. The flash accentuates the interior carbon, but in real life it is much more subdued and achieved the effect I was looking for.
Dec 16, 2010 5:18:46 PM
Dec 16, 2010 5:37:57 PM
Enmanuel:
easy_rider911:
993Targa:
Stunning
+1+2, perfection on a 458
+3. Makes me weak in the knees.
"When you design a car around the customer's wishes, you get cup holders. When you design a car around innovative thinking, you get a Porsche."
crayphile:
Ferdie:
Very, very nice. Looking forward to more pictures... I suppose the rims are painted as the body panels?
RMSV - Dark grey metaliic 780 painted forged rim - so not exact match to body colour but close enough.
can anyone supply the PPG paint colour code for these grey rims?
is it Dark grey metaliic 780?
what is the factory colour and spec?
thanks
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