Nov 22, 2010 11:07:51 AM
John H:
996AD:
do you actually use the rear window?
Yes actually, everyday for seeing through when reversing!!
I like to watch the car behind become smaller and disappear as I accelerate
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Nov 22, 2010 3:13:29 PM
Ron (Houston):
Today (Nov. 21) marks the second year anniversary of this thread. Can't believe we have been chatting about 991 since 2 years ago.
Yes I noticed that, the first post with the first pics of the 991 prototypes appear two years ago. This is telling of how much budget and testing Porsche commits in each model development. This is unique to this sports car manufacturer!
Nov 22, 2010 4:29:56 PM
Ziggy:
Ron (Houston):
Today (Nov. 21) marks the second year anniversary of this thread. Can't believe we have been chatting about 991 since 2 years ago.
Yes I noticed that, the first post with the first pics of the 991 prototypes appear two years ago. This is telling of how much budget and testing Porsche commits in each model development. This is unique to this sports car manufacturer!
Which is why we can feel the quality, the depth of engineering etc every time we drive a Porsche
RT Moderator - 997.1 Carrera S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen collection
Nov 22, 2010 5:06:41 PM
Nov 23, 2010 6:35:51 AM
Nov 23, 2010 7:13:18 AM
Nov 23, 2010 7:13:46 AM
Ron (Houston):
Look at those 2 pics.....they are supposed to be the same car .....but on one you can see the tank lid, on the other one there is none
Are the spy pics manipulated and photoshoped ... ????
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Nov 23, 2010 8:17:51 AM
Thanks again Ron!
Next Porsche 911 - new spy pics...
(23 November 2010)
These are the best spy images yet of the next-generation Porsche 911 in testing ahead of its official launch at next year’s Frankfurt motor show.
Codenamed 991, the heavily re-engineered coupé and cabriolet are set to go on sale in the UK in October 2011. They will get freshened exterior styling, a higher-quality interior, more powerful yet highly fuel-efficient six-cylinder boxer engines, sharpened dynamics and a greater list of high-end options.
As with today’s 911, the front-end structure, complete with its MacPherson strut suspension, has been designed to be shared with the Boxster, a third-generation model of which is due to reach the UK in March 2012. The rear end, with its reworked multi-link suspension, remains largely unique, and the steering uses an electro-mechanical set-up.
The new car is marginally longer and wider than the existing 911 but the basic silhouette, while stretched slightly, remains largely unchanged, including the screen angles and length of the front and rear overhangs. The biggest change is the widened wings, which have been designed to accept wheels up to 20 inches in diameter.
Again, there are no major changes to the 911’s styling. Headlamps and tail-lights have been altered slightly and given new LED graphics, while the exterior mirror housings now sit outboard on the doors rather than in the blanked-off quarter panel at the base of the A-pillar.
The engine line-up is based around upgraded versions of Porsche’s six-cylinder, direct injection petrol unit, boasting incremental increases in power and torque and slight reductions in fuel consumption and CO2 emissions.
When UK sales get under way in 14 months’ time there will be a 3.6-litre engine with 365bhp and 295lb ft in the Carrera. It will be joined from the outset by a revised 3.8-litre powerplant delivering 415bhp and 325lb ft in the Carrera S.
Both engines will come with a six-speed manual gearbox as standard; the seven-speed PDK (Porsche Doppel Kupplung) unit is an option, with shift paddles behind the wheel. Automatic stop-start and a brake recuperation system are also planned, helping to provide a claimed 12 per cent gain in city driving economy for the rear-drive Carrera and Carrera S.
Further variants will follow in time, including more powerful versions of the Turbo, GT3 and GT2.
Porsche-991-spy-pics_Autocar-link
Nov 23, 2010 10:27:12 AM
"The new car is marginally longer and wider than the existing 911 but the basic silhouette, while stretched slightly, remains largely unchanged, including the screen angles and length of the front and rear overhangs."
I'm not sure that is correct...as we can see from the picture below posted earlier.
Nov 24, 2010 4:55:45 PM
You are correct that that 991 photo seems to show a more tilted windshield and a longer car. But we do not know what lens took the photo and what distortions are at play. The difference is indeed not trivial when comparing the 2 photos, but I suspect PAG did not change the windshield tilt, but we'll have to wait to find out.
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Nov 24, 2010 6:31:21 PM
Nov 24, 2010 7:35:20 PM
Nov 26, 2010 3:29:13 PM
So here's a [probably oft-repeated] question that might seem silly, but it's been on my mind nonetheless.
The 991 911: Geneva or Frankfurt? While it makes symbolic sense to present it in Frankfurt on the 911's home turf, the car looks complete enough to be unveiled in four months. The new Cayenne looked about the same this time last year, with most of the camo off the mules and interior/exterior spy photos widely circulating the Internet, so it makes me think that maybe the car is headed to Geneva.
Thoughts?
Nov 26, 2010 3:31:35 PM
Nov 26, 2010 3:58:28 PM
rulesdontapply:
So here's a [probably oft-repeated] question that might seem silly, but it's been on my mind nonetheless.
Not a silly question at all It's been the subject of endless speculation
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Nov 26, 2010 4:12:39 PM
991 with the rear spoiler fully visible....
Nov 26, 2010 4:51:47 PM
Answers to some big questions here :
Porsche boss Matthias Müller also recently confirmed to CAR at the LA Auto Show that the company was working on flat four engines based on the architecture of the current flat six. The new motors are earmarked for the next-generation of Boxster and Cayman, but although Müller ruled it out for the 911 in the near future, we hear it will be deployed in the rear-engined icon in around five years time. The new Porsche 911, internally dubbed 991, will be unveiled at the next Frankfurt motor show in September 2011.
Nov 26, 2010 7:36:13 PM
Nov 26, 2010 11:21:38 PM
easy_rider911:
Ziggy:
Ron (Houston):
Today (Nov. 21) marks the second year anniversary of this thread. Can't believe we have been chatting about 991 since 2 years ago.
Yes I noticed that, the first post with the first pics of the 991 prototypes appear two years ago. This is telling of how much budget and testing Porsche commits in each model development. This is unique to this sports car manufacturer!
Which is why we can feel the quality, the depth of engineering etc every time we drive a Porsche
Perfectly stated Easy
Nov 27, 2010 12:16:25 AM
Nov 28, 2010 3:40:43 AM
The rear spoiler is clearly an improvement over the 997's grill on bellows. The rear fenders are more muscular which is also attractive. Not sure about the overall length. In some photos the car appears similar in LOA to the 997, but in others it seems quite stretched. For me compactness is an essential element of a sports car, and so a much larger successor to the 997 is not something I welcome.
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Carpe Diem--life is but a crack of light bounded by eternities of darkness (Nabokov)
Nov 28, 2010 9:43:31 AM