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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    Re 959: I think that is partially due to the wide hips in combination with the door-mounted mirrors.

    Re rear shape: It reminds me of the shape of the audi tt rear wing... hoping that that silly "overhang" will go away...

     


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

     The front is more 959isch. Thje bonnet is not flat anymore  and  has a much curvier shape due to the EU pedestrian laws.


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    Love the rear! Finally, some innovative design! (Relatively speaking, of course...) 


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    As Carlos says the car looks less and less 911. The front bulged bonnet  (Beetle-like) is a caricature of the original design. The longer wheelbase, beyond the dynamic damage it brings, gives it a stretched look that reminds of a Jag XK. 

    Let's not forget the added complexity - auto stop/start and electrically controlled handbrake.


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    ADias:

    As Carlos says the car looks less and less 911. The front bulged bonnet  (Beetle-like) is a caricature of the original design. The longer wheelbase, beyond the dynamic damage it brings, gives it a stretched look that reminds of a Jag XK. 

    Let's not forget the added complexity - auto stop/start and electrically controlled handbrake.

    The "improvement" that gives me most concern is the electric power steering - sure hope this isn't a further numbing device...
     


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    thanks for posting the new spy pics..

    i have to admit, i'm not sure i love it.  i think it looks best from the side but the rear circular lights (that appear lightly covered look cheap and off a japanese car to me) and the back and the cuts out look to pronounced...

    at this point, i think i (much) prefer Larson's renderings... 

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    also, do people think the bug eyed turbo-like fog lamps on the bumper will stay?  

    (i certainly hope not! i prefer a minimal design)


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    Doesn't look good with the top down Smiley

    Porsche-911-Cabrio-001.JPG

    Porsche-911-Cabrio-002.JPG

    Porsche-911-Cabrio-003.JPG

    Porsche-911-Cabrio-004.JPG

     


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    Porsche-911-Cabrio-005.JPG

    Porsche-911-Cabrio-006.JPG

    Porsche-911-Cabrio-007.JPG

     


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    mateoche:

     

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    also, do people think the bug eyed turbo-like fog lamps on the bumper will stay?  

    (i certainly hope not! i prefer a minimal design)

     

     My guess is that they're using the current Turbo front spoiler because of its width (the new car is wider than the old one). I don't think we have seen the final front spoiler yet. 


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

     RE: "It does not look good with the top down"

    What's new? The 911 cab never looked good, imo. At least, now it looks much better with the top up.


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    well im sure the big butt houses a 4.0L 

    (I keep saying it because i know Porsche people are reading)


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    More new pics...

    http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/11/spy-shots-porsche-911-struts-its-stuff/porsche-1.jpgporsche-4.jpgporsche-7.jpg

    We recently spied two next-generation Porsche 911 prototypes out testing, showing off its slightly revised shape and new exterior features. We can only imagine what sort of rigorous testing procedures are involved with creating a new 911, so it doesn't surprise us to see the the almost-naked Porsche back out on the road again.

    Mum's the word on exactly what lies underneath the 911's new skin, though earlier reports have stated that the 3.6- and 3.8-liter flat-sixes will carry over unchanged, though a new electro-hydraulic steering could be on hand in an effort to improve overall efficiency. We've heard rumblings about more spacious rear seats and an electronic parking brake being fitted to the new 911, as well.

    We expect Porsche to take the wraps off of the new 911 sometime early next year, possibly at March'sGeneva Motor Show. Until then, get another glimpse at Porsche's pride and joy in our gallery of spy snaps below.


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    I quite like it!..especially the profile.1289507102019getmecoat.gif


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    I'm not forming any opinions until I see the official launch pictures  


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    easy_rider911:

    I'm not forming any opinions until I see the official launch pictures  

     

    Smiley


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    The cab looks definetely a hardtop covered with canvas. When looking closely to the above pics, it even seems to me there are only to pieces of roof that fold over eachother.

     


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    if that sunroof will be an option on the carrera models maybe the 997.2 Targa was the last generation targas we will see.

    looks very promising the whole concept. newer is always better and we'll get used to the design independent of what the final product will look like.


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    Maybe that new sunroof design won't compromise headroom like the current one.  I had a couple 944 Turbo S's and those had a tilting/removable sunroof that didn't affect headroom - pretty nice.  However, I had an accident with one of those cars and the sunroof flew off and traveled an entire city block at high speed (like something out of James Bond Goldfinger).  Not very safe...


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    Grant,
    That must have been quite an accident.


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    Lukas:

    [...]

    looks very promising the whole concept. newer is always better and we'll get used to the design independent of what the final product will look like.

     Newer is not always better. And at this price, and such an emotional product, I don't want a design I will get used to. I want something that will make me lust / drool after it. The 993 was such a design. The 964 was not, nor the 996. They were nice enough, but not interesting enough. The 997 is almost there, but not quite: a bit too "correct", nothing unexpected. 


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    They are popping everywhere.

    2012-porsche-911_1.jpg

    2012-porsche-911_2.jpg

    2012-porsche-911_3.jpg

    2012-porsche-911_4.jpg

    2012-porsche-911_5.jpg

     


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    wow wow... seems my guess on the panoramic roof was right.

    I hope the rear lights are not that big and blocky... prefer Larson's one. I hope they sticker the real rear lights so at least I can still hope for a better looking rear lights when the final model is launched. Overall, I like the shape and the new rear wing design. seems at this point Geneva launch maybe in order.... I feel Porsche desperately needs to launch this car asap as many people are slowly parting money to the likes of the MP4-12C.

    still beats me why they bother to retain that turbo air intake sticker...


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    There is something fishy about this top Smiley

    click to enlarge

    Porsche-911-Cabrio.JPG


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

     It does look weird. Almost like once the top is down, there is no room for the engine. 


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    emode:

    More new pics...

    http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/11/spy-shots-porsche-911-struts-its-stuff/porsche-1.jpgporsche-4.jpgporsche-7.jpg

     

    Is the last picture transposed? The gas tank is on the left, but it's on the right in the other two pics...

     

     


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    i think i will like it.....


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    easy_rider911:

    I'm not forming any opinions until I see the official launch pictures  

     Or untill I see the Gt3 Smiley


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    Yea....GT3 should look georgeous!!!


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    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    Ron (Houston):

    There is something fishy about this top Smiley

    click to enlarge

    Porsche-911-Cabrio.JPG

     From what I can see, I'm seeing a real folding hardtop, with the canvas only put there to put us off.


    Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine... Thema geschlossen

    Spyderidol:

    I quite like it!..especially the profile.1289507102019getmecoat.gif

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