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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
intouch1:
personally i feel that cab's should have soft tops. if i want a cab i am willing to live with the issues of a soft-top.
On the contrary, I want a cab without the issues of a soft-top and am willing to live with the few extra pounds of weight.
Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
shin:
intouch1:
personally i feel that cab's should have soft tops. if i want a cab i am willing to live with the issues of a soft-top.
On the contrary, I want a cab without the issues of a soft-top and am willing to live with the few extra pounds of weight.
Cabs look much nicer with a soft top ..... folding hard tops are hybrids I can not get used to and I can see the many bad points about them 
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
It could be a fabric top but with a more rigid material underneath probably not metal but some type of lightweight synthetic. If so, I think everyone will be happy (appearance of soft top, rigidity of hard top, without significant weight penalty) except those who enjoy the characteristic drumming sound of rain on a soft top.
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
993Targa:
reginos:
except those who enjoy the characteristic drumming sound of rain on a soft top.
Yep that's me, love that sound.... feels like camping
Hope they stick to the soft top
Actually, Bentley carried out a survey about introducing folding hardtops and most of their customers rejected it because they enjoy this tent-like sound!
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
Porsche over the last year has secured US patents on a new convertible roof design. It will be very interesting to see if the 991 cab incorporates any of the new design or were these patents filled in anticipation of a Panamera convertible..
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
shin:
mariusv:
, and that the convertible will get a FABRIC COVERED HARDTOP, which I think it's a good thing assuming that the weight will not increase astronomically.
Wait a minute, I don't see that logic. A fabric covered hardtop would still weigh a bit more than a hardtop not covered with anything. Even if the whole fabric weighs 500 grams, that means 500 grams more weight than the metal hardtop not covered with anything. And either option would still weigh more than a soft-top.
You don't see the logic in covering the hardtop with fabric ? Well, neither do I, but I guess it has to do with aesthetics. Or maybe those journalists are mistaking and only the prototypes have the roof covered with fabric, in order to disguise what's underneath and make people believe it's a softtop. In any case, to me the perfect shape indicates it is indeed a hardtop. Softtops have CREASES, this doesn't seem to have any of those:
Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
mariusv:
Softtops have CREASES, this doesn't seem to have any of those.
There you go, you answer your own question. A fabric-covered roof mechanism would combine the aesthetics and appearance of a softtop with the advantages of a hardtop (soundproofing, stability).
Nov 2, 2010 12:53:06 AM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
it could be a roof design to reduce the overall weight of the car, lower the CG and gives better overall handling. afterall, roofs are one of the easiest locations to lose weight. the lines are too smooth to be a convertible. I guess the fabric is used to hide some interesting roof structure - panoramic roof, replaceable roof sections, etc.... we are all guessing here... can't wait for Porsche to unveil this car ASAP.
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Nov 2, 2010 12:57:59 AM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
reginos:
It could be a fabric top but with a more rigid material underneath probably not metal but some type of lightweight synthetic. If so, I think everyone will be happy (appearance of soft top, rigidity of hard top, without significant weight penalty) except those who enjoy the characteristic drumming sound of rain on a soft top.
--"Form follows function"
+1. a good example of form follows function.
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Nov 2, 2010 10:48:29 AM
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This is an inversion of reality (aka, le monde a l'envers)!!!
If someone had told me that some day, we would be welcoming the use of a vinyl/canvas covering on a metal top in a Porsche, I would have called the local asylum. After all, that stuff had been the purvey of big Cadillacs, Lincolns, and ugly/cheap aftermarket crap that dealers slapped on less expensive sedans to make a quick buck from folks with questionable taste...
Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
Agree about faux soft tops, but don't think Porsche will go this route. I trust the form follows function mission. I would applaud a firmer underpinning of a soft top, however, if it eliminates unsightly creases and improves the flow of the top's rear slope into the body....
Nov 2, 2010 12:31:15 PM
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Nov 2, 2010 3:38:16 PM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
Fuchwheeler:
it could be a roof design to reduce the overall weight of the car, lower the CG and gives better overall handling. afterall, roofs are one of the easiest locations to lose weight. the lines are too smooth to be a convertible. I guess the fabric is used to hide some interesting roof structure - panoramic roof, replaceable roof sections, etc.... we are all guessing here... can't wait for Porsche to unveil this car ASAP.
What ? No man, this IS the convertible, you can clearly see that the window line is different from that of the coupe, and also that there is a roof mechanism of some sort in the back of the car.
Anyway, perhaps it is just a removable hardtop, like this one ?? (but covered in fabric)
Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
KMM:
This is an inversion of reality (aka, le monde a l'envers)!!!
If someone had told me that some day, we would be welcoming the use of a vinyl/canvas covering on a metal top in a Porsche, I would have called the local asylum. After all, that stuff had been the purvey of big Cadillacs, Lincolns, and ugly/cheap aftermarket crap that dealers slapped on less expensive sedans to make a quick buck from folks with questionable taste...
You beat me to it. Those vinyl covered sedan roofs of the 70s and 80s were gaudy.
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
Guys, not to be an ass or anything, but was it REALLY necessary to post here those horrible cars ? 
I don't know, maybe it's just me but I don't want to see that kind of cars on a porsche dedicated forum (no matter what tiny connection there is with the porker; in this case, that they also had a fabric covered metal roof). Simply put, they make me PUKE, and therefore very reluctant in checking this page again 
Nov 2, 2010 8:35:53 PM
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Re: Porsche 991 GT3 to include GT1 motorsport engine...
mariusv:
DJC:
When you look at the Patent application drawing you can see how the roof works ,the top of the roof is similar to hard tops, but they still use the canvas to fold the side panels
And where can I look at this drawing ??
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