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    May 26, 2011 8:30:34 PM

    Italo
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    Reply to: JimFlat6

    Re: C&D: AM V12 vs Audi R8 vs 458 Italia vs SLS AMG vs 911 Turbo S

    JimFlat6:
    RC:

    The AM Vantage V12 performance is quite disappointing. The car weights 250 pounds more than the AWD and rear passenger room equipped 997 Turbo S...not really acceptable.

    Just compare the performance between the Vantage V12 and the Turbo S...amazing difference. The Vantage V12 would actually have trouble taking on a Carrera GTS. Ouch.

    AM needs to lower weight and make their cars more effective.


    Astons just cant get their claimed power to the ground. They are slower than a stripper 50K Corvette and thats sad for such a brand and ridiculous for the price. Astons sound better than they go. Maybe thats their new market, all bark and no bite.

    hey Smiley

    May 27, 2011 8:21:47 AM

    BjoernB
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    Reply to: Italo

    Re: C&D: AM V12 vs Audi R8 vs 458 Italia vs SLS AMG vs 911 Turbo S

    but fantastic looks......

    May 27, 2011 9:14:41 AM

    RCA
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    Re: C&D: AM V12 vs Audi R8 vs 458 Italia vs SLS AMG vs 911 Turbo S

    BjoernB:

    but fantastic looks......

     

    You "saved" Jim. Smiley

    My AM dealer just sent me a Vantage V12 price list...almost 180000 EUR...ouch. For the same price tag, I can get a 997 Turbo S. Performance is really important to me or at least the performance/price ratio. 

    Yes, the Vantage V12 looks and sounds amazing but performance? Smiley Smiley


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    May 27, 2011 3:33:27 PM

    REALZEUS
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    Reply to: pride355

    Re: C&D: AM V12 vs Audi R8 vs 458 Italia vs SLS AMG vs 911 Turbo S

    pride355:
    REALZEUS:
    A road legal Ferrari FXX Edo is the fastest thing one could buy for the road (for an estimated, cool, 2m Euros nowadays) but for 1/10th of the money, one could get a 458 that is only some 25% slower round a standard circuit. Thus the 458 is the better value for money car.

     

     Isn't Zonda R faster than FXX Edo? Just curious..

     

    Of course not! The Ferrari has an 100 HP advantage over the Zonda! Plus the R is not street legal (like the standard FXX).


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