Guys...factory tour...Weissach 991...do I need to say more ?!
What I still don't understand is how Porsche is going to "fit in" the 987 successor(s).
Another fact: during the tour, we've been told that the new engine production is good for up to 500 engines per day. During our visit, only 147 engines were planned for the day. A lot of 997 we saw during the production cycle were GT3 and GT2 or Turbo/S. Meaning: I doubt that 997 sales are going too well for Porsche, especially the cheaper versions don't seem to have high demand.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
RC:
Guys...factory tour...Weissach 991...do I need to say more ?!
What I still don't understand is how Porsche is going to "fit in" the 987 successor(s).
Another fact: during the tour, we've been told that the new engine production is good for up to 500 engines per day. During our visit, only 147 engines were planned for the day. A lot of 997 we saw during the production cycle were GT3 and GT2 or Turbo/S. Meaning: I doubt that 997 sales are going too well for Porsche, especially the cheaper versions don't seem to have high demand.
Most of the 911 Sales this year in the US have been preowned. The dealers still have significant inventory on hand of new 997.2. - cabs & coupes. If you look at the sales numbers for US this past year 64% of the sales volume came from the Cayenne & Panamera. I also see more GT3 pre-owned and new on dealer lots. 987 sales have actually picked up over the last few months. Porsche cannot wait beyond next summer to introduce the 991.
Sep 14, 2010 2:46:52 AM
Considering from Porsche past history, they will probably introduce whole bunch of special models such as Silver edition, Platinum Edition, For Japan only edition, for China only edition......They will keep up the sales .
Can't wait for RC to shed more lights on 991 . Is the new paint shop ready to go yet ?
Sep 14, 2010 9:44:08 AM
RC:
Guys...factory tour...Weissach 991...do I need to say more ?!
What I still don't understand is how Porsche is going to "fit in" the 987 successor(s).
Another fact: during the tour, we've been told that the new engine production is good for up to 500 engines per day. During our visit, only 147 engines were planned for the day. A lot of 997 we saw during the production cycle were GT3 and GT2 or Turbo/S. Meaning: I doubt that 997 sales are going too well for Porsche, especially the cheaper versions don't seem to have high demand.
makes sense since I know of few guys who are waiting out for the new 991. It will definitely be in Porsche best interest not to delay the new 991 beyond Sep 2011....
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Sep 14, 2010 11:29:22 AM
Sep 14, 2010 4:18:13 PM
Lars997:
It already was 90 % automated Carlos as far as I know. It's just got improved for higher volumes, thus also would mean propably even higher automation.
As long as it won't be as "good" as Ferrari's paint shop...
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
Sep 14, 2010 5:20:44 PM
Lars997:
It already was 90 % automated Carlos as far as I know. It's just got improved for higher volumes, thus also would mean propably even higher automation.
Right, just that when we were looking at the chasis of the cars in the production line, the tour guide said that if you look closely bellow the palce were the rear lights will go on the chasis you could see the signature of the Porsche painter that painted that car, and that once the new paint installations were finished in the new place, they won't carry a signature anymore since it would be a fully automated process, no manual parts at all anymore. But I don't know what part of the process the painter does, if I remember correctly the insides of the car is manual and the outside is by robots
Sep 14, 2010 6:45:51 PM
I always thought the Cathodic DIP Primer, Undercoat Primer, and Clear Coat process was automated, but the base colour coat is still by hand ?
As per the Mega-Factories National Geographic program which showed in detail the 997 Gen 2 production (including GT3)
Today I "met" three LB-PF license plate cars in a convoy and they looked weird to me, even if not camouflaged. I'm pretty sure that Porsche is testing the "new" engines and other parts of the 991 under the body of the 997, it is a pity I wasn't able to take a closer look.
There isn't much time left for 991 development, pre-production should start early next year and market introduction cars (those making it to the dealer presentation) should start production early spring 2011.
Starting very likely with the 991, the whole painting process should be fully automatic because of the new paint facility, just as a side note.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
My note is not specifically in response to your post, but I cannot get the idea out of my head of a 991 GTS, being part of the standard 991 line up. Like in the Cayenne model line up. I think the GTS idea ( 2-wheel-wide-classic-pure ) is a good one and should not being reserved for an outdated 997 model. Is there a chance the GTS will become available earlier in the 991 model cycle ?
Sep 17, 2010 5:36:28 PM
Sep 17, 2010 7:44:56 PM
Ron (Houston):
We'll still see a limited edition 911 Speedster and possibly 911 Turbo Platinum edition before 991.
Heard about the forthcoming Speedster, but what's up with that Turbo Platinum?
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
Sep 18, 2010 1:40:28 AM
Sep 18, 2010 3:44:12 AM
Does anyone know where this 997 GTS ad was filmed? i want to drive it! Thank you! M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwluWsPONNU&feature=player_embedded
Sep 18, 2010 5:06:02 AM
Rossi:
Ron (Houston):
We'll still see a limited edition 911 Speedster and possibly 911 Turbo Platinum edition before 991.
Heard about the forthcoming Speedster, but what's up with that Turbo Platinum?
I made that up. What I meant was Porsche will come up with as many editions as they can to milk the 997.
Sep 18, 2010 8:15:19 AM
Ron (Houston):
Rossi:
Ron (Houston):
We'll still see a limited edition 911 Speedster and possibly 911 Turbo Platinum edition before 991.
Heard about the forthcoming Speedster, but what's up with that Turbo Platinum?
I made that up. What I meant was Porsche will come up with as many editions as they can to milk the 997.
Thanks for clarification, Ron.
You'll get a Platinum as well?
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
mateoche:
Does anyone know where this 997 GTS ad was filmed? i want to drive it! Thank you! M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwluWsPONNU&feature=player_embedded
Looks like "Lago di Garda" Italy - but I´m not 100% sure ...
Blueflame
Sep 18, 2010 9:34:39 AM
New Porsche 991 spy pics...
"Next-gen 911s and Boxster spotted in San Francisco..."
(13 September 2010)
San Francisco car dealer Walter Dawydiak sent us some pictures he took of next-generation 911s testing clutch wear on the steep hills of San Francisco early this morning. Porsche’s engineers regularly test in the city by the bay, saying the environment can’t be duplicated elsewhere. His photos are some of the clearest we’ve seen yet with regards to the rear LED taillights, though the active rear wing is still hidden by a large shroud.
While he spotted 911 coupes and Cabriolets, Dawydiak also tells us a next-generation Boxster was a part of the test. “It’s the best-looking Boxster I’ve ever seen,” he says. Unfortunately he was unable to take a photo of the Boxster...
Next-Gen-911-in-SanFrancisco_Exce11ence-link
blueflame:
mateoche:
Does anyone know where this 997 GTS ad was filmed? i want to drive it! Thank you! M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwluWsPONNU&feature=player_embedded
Looks like "Lago di Garda" Italy - but I´m not 100% sure ...Blueflame
Great road!
I've heard today that Announcement will be in spring 2011 and official Presentation at the 2011 IAA.
However, production of 991 will start before summer 2011 just after 997 production ceases.
So 997 has just another 6 months.
"Form follows function"
blueflame:
mateoche:
Does anyone know where this 997 GTS ad was filmed? i want to drive it! Thank you! M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwluWsPONNU&feature=player_embedded
Looks like "Lago di Garda" Italy - but I´m not 100% sure ...Blueflame
Thank you Blueflame! appreciate it! M
mateoche:
blueflame:
mateoche:
Does anyone know where this 997 GTS ad was filmed? i want to drive it! Thank you! M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwluWsPONNU&feature=player_embedded
Looks like "Lago di Garda" Italy - but I´m not 100% sure ...Blueflame
Thank you Blueflame! appreciate it! M
Remember this car chase? - should be the same road:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsBd9tPK4uE&feature=related
Great Road! Go there and have fun and the stelvio pass is not far away - Sorry for OT.
Blueflame