Oct 23, 2010 2:07:28 PM
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Oct 23, 2010 2:07:28 PM
Dasein:
Thanks reginos!
Darn difficult decision choosing between the Can and the Coupe. Already know the Coupe is the nicer looking of the two but I have a Coupe now and the Cab would be a nice change.
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The price of anything is the amount of life you exchange for it. Henry David Thoreau
I don't know in your area how often you can drive with the top down. If very frequently get a Cab. If not get the Coupe which is more classic, more rigid, less noisy, offers more space, offers more security and you don't have the trouble to remove all sorts of dirt from the fabric as quickly as possible.
IMO a Cab is worth it if it hardly gets closed.
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"Form follows function"
Whew, there's some junk in that trunk!
:)
I live in the southern US reginos, mountains of western North Carolina so top down is available all but maybe 3 or 4 months out of the year and even some top down days happen during our "cold" months. I have a Cab on order, I think I'll just be happy with it.
Dasein:
Whew, there's some junk in that trunk!
:)
I live in the southern US reginos, mountains of western North Carolina so top down is available all but maybe 3 or 4 months out of the year and even some top down days happen during our "cold" months. I have a Cab on order, I think I'll just be happy with it.
Great choice then
"Form follows function"
Allright, gang.
I have also decided to go for the GTS Coupe (sort of).
It was possible for me to arrange a deal with my Porsche Dealer: i configure the GTS according to my own specs, the car is being ordered (Jan delivery) and if i dont take it, the dealership takes it as a demo car without any obligations from my side. The good thing is that i get to specify the car 100% to my wishes and decide on the GTS once its here (maybe a bit earlier), but i dont HAVE to take it.
Background info for this deal: i have some outstanding business deals, which should be on track by december-jan.
I will post my Specs tomorrow, but in general is a lot like Johns
The GTS should be speeced more sporty than my Cayman S (including colors, interior trim and technical features), without making it hard to live on a Day to day basis. I drive my Porsche as a DD, maybe 2 trackdays, but we do have fantastic country roads over here
Main concern is the Sport PASM (incl. LSD, which i would take anyway). My Cayman S (pre FL) is equipped with normal PASM and i find it quite fine on the normal setting, but too hars on Sport (without providing any felt benefit other than stiffness).
So my question is: how "bad" is the Sport PASM on normal setting? Is Sport PASM in normal setting same as/softer/harder as (normal) PASM in sport setting?
Generally speaking i have the feeling that the 911 is a bit softer than the Cayman S. This observation is based on a test drive, where i switched from my car with PASM to a 911 (also with PASM) and it just felt softer in the same setting.
All help is very very wellcome, and i hope to hear as much as possible on this...i have to decide by this wednesday on the final cofiguration.
Looking forward to all Your input!
thx
Nick
This is probably in poor taste BUT does anyone think that demand for this vehicle will outstrip supply meaning one could possibly order a GTS (as I have) then offer it for sale immediately upon receipt and make a profit? If my question offends anyone I do apologize but keep in mind I now have a beautiful 2009 Porsche Carrera white coupe that I'm really fond of.
Don - it is possible, as with all potentially limited editions. But somehow I don't think you will want to part with it.. once you've seen it.
My dealer took a £3,000 refundable deposit when I ordered mine a month ago. They said that, in the event of me changing my mind, they'd have zero problem in selling the GTS, particularly one so well specced! There was never any mention of.. "at a premium price"
The best thing I think can happen is that depreciation on the GTS will be considerably lower than with a conventional C2 or C2S... that, in itself, is a very real positive when purchasing a new car..
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."
Thanks John,
I agree with your assessment that I won't want to part with the GTS once it arrives.
Maybe I'll win the lottery and can have BOTH a Cab and a Coupe.
No gluttony here.
:)
Don
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The price of anything is the amount of life you exchange for it. Henry David Thoreau
Nov 12, 2010 10:51:30 AM
Nov 12, 2010 11:21:44 AM
UH-OH! Same (excellent) dealer has a 2011 911 Carrera Turbo S and now I'm thinking a Turbo S in the garage in a few days might be better than a GTS in January or February.
Take a look. Any opinions?
http://hilton-head.porschedealer.com/new/Porsche/911+Turbo+S+Cabriolet/2011/GT+Silver+Metallic/silver/637059/info.php
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The price of anything is the amount of life you exchange for it. Henry David Thoreau
Don - is the Turbo S new or pre-owned and what colour is that... GT silver?
It seems well specced including PCCB brakes, so I guess the price hike will be considerable. But you will have the very top end of the range.
Depends on the deal, but I'd say if everything falls into place...go for it..
I considered one a few months ago, but one drive in the Turbo (not even an S) convinced me I'd lose my licence in no time...
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."
You can´t even compare those two if money is no object, go for it, the Turbo S provides a all new driving dimension the GTS never will. This S looks great, it has the sports seat (a must) and even the right wheels , don´t you even think twice
J.Seven
Thanks John and J. It's a new 2011 Turbo S. GT Silver Metallic, Stone Grey full leather interior, grey top. The top is already showing some wrinkles as any non-black top will BUT the GT Silver, Stone Grey, and grey top sure look nice together. Here's the list of options on it:
XXB - Door Entry Guard SS Illum
CJX - Floor Mat w/Leather Surround
686 - XM Radio
342 - Heated Seats - Front
XSH - Seat Belts in Silver Grey
EAZ - Exterior Package Painted
XNS - Steering Column Casing-Leather
XME - Rear Console Exterior Color
XES - Prep for Illum Door Sill Guard
XDP - Instrument Surround Ext Color
XSC - Porsche Crest on Headrests
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The price of anything is the amount of life you exchange for it. Henry David Thoreau
Get it Don. The extra power will help going up all the mountain roads near your home and the fadeless brakes will come in handy going down the same roads. Plus you need to keep up with the joneses' there was/is a rennteamer just over the border in TN that has a newish turbo if memory serves.
How ironic the fastest porsche at a dealership where getting out of 1st gear would be an accomplishment.
Dasein:
Thanks John and J. It's a new 2011 Turbo S. GT Silver Metallic, Stone Grey full leather interior, grey top. The top is already showing some wrinkles as any non-black top will BUT the GT Silver, Stone Grey, and grey top sure look nice together. Here's the list of options on it:
XXB - Door Entry Guard SS Illum
CJX - Floor Mat w/Leather Surround
686 - XM Radio
342 - Heated Seats - FrontXSH - Seat Belts in Silver Grey
EAZ - Exterior Package Painted
XNS - Steering Column Casing-Leather
XME - Rear Console Exterior Color
XES - Prep for Illum Door Sill Guard
XDP - Instrument Surround Ext Color
XSC - Porsche Crest on Headrests
With those specs what are you waiting for ....Having siad that, I do find the GTS cleaner lines much more charming than TTS
As to price difference, phrase in your signature says it all
J.Seven
Dasein:
Thanks John and J. It's a new 2011 Turbo S. GT Silver Metallic, Stone Grey full leather interior, grey top. The top is already showing some wrinkles as any non-black top will BUT the GT Silver, Stone Grey, and grey top sure look nice together. Here's the list of options on it:
XXB - Door Entry Guard SS Illum
CJX - Floor Mat w/Leather Surround
686 - XM Radio
342 - Heated Seats - FrontXSH - Seat Belts in Silver Grey
EAZ - Exterior Package Painted
XNS - Steering Column Casing-Leather
XME - Rear Console Exterior Color
XES - Prep for Illum Door Sill Guard
XDP - Instrument Surround Ext Color
XSC - Porsche Crest on Headrests
Perfect colour combination, perfect specs, perfect car.
The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
The turbo has the central-locking wheels, which are PITA to remove and re-attach. So if you're in the camp of people who like to keep their car and especially wheels clean, that's something to be aware of. You need a special torque-wrench for these.
On second look, the car also has PCCB. So the need to clean them frequently should be much lower...
Apart from this (no deal-breaking imho) and provided that you're not a frequent-track-flyer, I'd say go for it. It is looking great.
Matt C
2009 997 GT3 Mk2 / 1988 911 3.2 Conv.
If one has (test-)driven a Turbo before, then the answer to the question GTS or Turbo S should come very easy. Luckily, if one has the funds to support either way, then the stomach should rule...and, perhaps to put in a more specific comment to this thread - my concern would also be the PCCBs, but if the car is used as a daily driver - wow, what a beautiful (low-profil) supersportscar !
I am of a like mind J, have to prefer the clean lines of the GTS over the Turbo S. GTS got a nice write-up here:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Porsche-911-3.8-Carrera-GTS/254247/
There are more experienced people that can report about the dynamic differences between the Carrera S / GTS and the Turbo. While the engine sound and turbolag have certainly improved on the latter, the naturally aspirated engine clearly has its advantages there.
The pictured Turbo S has a gorgeous exterior but I personally would want a more individualized interior, at least the door finishers, seatbelt outlets and PDK concole in leather.
Nov 22, 2010 4:38:53 PM
Sounds like a lovely car - personally I prefer the GT Silver/Cocoa combination more (it's a nice contrast) but GT Silver/Stone Grey should still look very attractive too
Fundamentally the GTS and the TTS offer very different driving experiences. A 408PS normally aspirated car vs a 530PS turbo-charged missile
I like the NA experience - it's wonderful to modulate the accelerator pedal round corners applying just the right amount of power to stay within the limits of adhesion. In a TTS, I can imagine that it's harder to balance on that limit because there is simply so much power. That's why I am thinking about perhaps getting a GT3 in the future.
RT Moderator - 997.1 Carrera S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen collection
Nov 22, 2010 5:35:43 PM
"My" 2011 GTS Cab (order) is available (January build) at:
Porsche of Hilton Head
107 Drivers Way
Hardeeville, SC 29927
Main 843-208-3300
Fax 843-208-5008
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The price of anything is the amount of life you exchange for it. Henry David Thoreau
Just had an apologetic dealer on the phone saying it's unlikely my GTS will be ready for the December pick-up they had anticipated...
I ordered the car over 2 months ago and apparently the build hasn't even started yet...
"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."