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Re: PDK Button reverse
(Old topic that has been beaten to death, but I can't resist...)
These PDK buttons have got to be the most misunderstood and unjustly maligned design of all ages. Here's a design that relies on a natural analogy and provides an obvious mnemonic, a design that uses a unified mnemonic across the steering wheel controls and the shift lever, and makes it possible to use the same motion regardless of steering wheel angle. And yet, people keep complaining about it and asking for what is, in my opinion, an inferior design.
The mnemonic is simple: forward for faster (i.e., upshift), back for slower (downshift). Whether your fingers find the left or right button, or whether you grab the console shifter, it's the same.
Whenever I drive my brother's M5, I find the steering wheel mounted paddles problematic any time there is significant steering wheel angle. To those who will argue that racing cars use such paddles, it's an apples to oranges comparison, given how little the steering wheel turns on an F1 car, e.g.
The only problem I find with the buttons is their plasticky hollow feel, compared to the M5's or other paddles I've tried
Column-mounted paddles may be superior, but I would take the buttons over the M or Turbo paddles any day.
Re: PDK Button reverse
Don't see what's so natural about forward for upshift and backwards for downshifts.
Just the opposite would be more natural, especially on the stick shifter.
There's a reason racing sequential boxes are push to downshift, pull to upshift boxes...
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RC:
Push = downshift, Pull = upshift...the most natural to me. Unfortunately some car manufacturers seem to see that different.
Right!
Also, when you accelerate - you like more to pull to shift up, when braking it is more natural to push to downshift. What Porsche has thought about his configuration 
The same to Panameras hand break button 
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The best solution for this would be to introduce a new menu option in the PCM so that the user can select either mode in the individual memory. I know that there are +/- instructions on both the buttons and on the stick, but who cares 
Anyhow, as pointed out in other threads, I prefer the way it is implemented and would thought that the opposite would be counter intuitive. But i'm not a former racedriver so I'm not used to what's supposed to be "right" from a racing perspective 
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Current: 997.2 C2S Meteorgrey/Black - PDK, PSE, LSD, SportChrono, Nav, Bose, etc.
Sold: 997C2S Black/Black - PSE, Adaptives, PCCB, -20mm/LSD, Short-shifter, SportChrono, Nav, BOSE, etc.
Re: PDK Button reverse
Lukas:Anyhow, as pointed out in other threads, I prefer the way it is implemented and would thought that the opposite would be counter intuitive. But i'm not a former racedriver so I'm not used to what's supposed to be "right" from a racing perspective
Actually Lukas, you don't have to have racing experience to understand the logic of the standard racing 'box configuration (push = downshift, pull = upshift).
It's a question of natural body and car movement. If you're hard on the brakes (presumably that's when you'd want to downshift), it makes sense to move your arm in the same direction and downshift by pushing forwards. Conversely, as you accelerate out of a corner, the weight transfer is towards the rear so it makes just as much sense to pull on the lever to shift up.
Admittedly, it is easier to "get" if you have some racing experience, but the underlying logic works just as well for the road as it does for the track.
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997.1 cab C2S with ceramics!
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How do you then explain ordinary paddles wher u pull your right hand for upshift and left hand for downshift? This would then not follow the natural body movement according to your reasoning 
I think this is a matter of what you're getting used to and personal preferences. it's like using a mac-mouse vs a pc-mouse, playing a First-Person-Shooter game where you direct your movements of your character via the mouse. Some prefer to invert the mouse-movements and some don't.
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Current: 997.2 C2S Meteorgrey/Black - PDK, PSE, LSD, SportChrono, Nav, Bose, etc.
Sold: 997C2S Black/Black - PSE, Adaptives, PCCB, -20mm/LSD, Short-shifter, SportChrono, Nav, BOSE, etc.
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That makes sense 
... I however never use the stick for shifting and prefer the buttons/paddles, but for the stick I agree with the laws of physics
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Current: 997.2 C2S Meteorgrey/Black - PDK, PSE, LSD, SportChrono, Nav, Bose, etc.
Sold: 997C2S Black/Black - PSE, Adaptives, PCCB, -20mm/LSD, Short-shifter, SportChrono, Nav, BOSE, etc.
Re: PDK Button reverse
Lukas:
The best solution for this would be to introduce a new menu option in the PCM so that the user can select either mode in the individual memory. I know that there are +/- instructions on both the buttons and on the stick, but who cares
Thx this is what I'm looking for.
Specifically, Can it be programmable by the Porsche shop?
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