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    Porsche 911 Turbo PDK vs 911 Turbo manual MkI

    The PDK pulls out a huge gap every time the manual car changes gear (as expected):

    What they're saying at the end of the run is:

    "It's f**ing fast"

    "You made perfect gear changes"

    "It's hard to change gears manually faster than that thing"

    "It seems to keep the boost up in a different way"


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    Re: Porsche 911 Turbo PDK vs 911 Turbo manual MkI

    No doubt PDK is much more efficient - but also the 997.2 TT PDK has various improvements too over the 997.1 TT - not least 20 extra PS (500PS vs 480PS)

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    Re: Porsche 911 Turbo PDK vs 911 Turbo manual MkI

    It can't be only the gear changes, the PDK-Turbo literally walks away from the 997.1 TT...


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    It's not only the gearchangens, the mk2 would still win with its more powerful engine. What I wanted to show with the video was the big jump ahead the PDK does every time the manual changes gear.


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    Re: Porsche 911 Turbo PDK vs 911 Turbo manual MkI

     Manual is showing its age and inability to keep up with technology. The result would have been similar even if they had identical hp.


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    Is there anyone here who still believe the 997.1TT to be faster to 0-300Kph than the 997.2TT  Smiley

    J.Seven


    Re: Porsche 911 Turbo PDK vs 911 Turbo manual MkI

    J.Seven:

    Is there anyone here who still believe the 997.1TT to be faster to 0-300Kph than the 997.2TT  Smiley

    J.Seven


    this is what i was trying to say a long long time ago...

     

    NO WAY HOW COMPARE THE PDK vs MANUAL Mk1

    like i always said.. from  0 to 300km/h the PDK must be 3-4sec FASTER!


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    another exemple 997TT MK1 + chip vs 997TT PDK MK2 + chip, no chances for the 997TT MK1

     


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    That the PDK, as boring as it is around town , provides an overwhelming acceleration advantage is now old news; the PDK Turbo will kill just about any other car on the road. What would pique my interest is a test that eliminates the PDK variable, meaning 997.1 manual versus 997.2 manual.

    I don't follow this type of information so really don't know. For the speed and acceleration experts of this forum:
    1. What trustworthy acceleration tests have been done with 997.2 manual, and what does it show in comparison to 997.1 manual?
    2. 'ring time is rumored to be 10 second faster with 997.2 PDK vs. 997.1 manual. Has there been a test of 997.2 manual?

     


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    Re: Porsche 911 Turbo PDK vs 911 Turbo manual MkI

    Is there a video comparing... 997.1 manual versus 997.2 manual?

     


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    If the 997.2 manual has 20 more hp, the results should be the same but the difference smaller assuming equally talented drivers.


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    Re: Porsche 911 Turbo PDK vs 911 Turbo manual MkI

    nberry:

     

    If the 997.2 manual has 20 more hp, the results should be the same but the difference smaller assuming equally talented drivers.

    well its not only 20hp... tuners tested both in same dyno, and the 997.2  did  40WHP MORE THAN THE 997.1...
     

     

    997.1=400whp

    997.2 440whp

    actually this thing is putting something like 520-525HP Smiley


    Re: Porsche 911 Turbo PDK vs 911 Turbo manual MkI

    cannga:

    That the PDK, as boring as it is around town , provides an overwhelming acceleration advantage is now old news; the PDK Turbo will kill just about any other car on the road. What would pique my interest is a test that eliminates the PDK variable, meaning 997.1 manual versus 997.2 manual.

    I don't follow this type of information so really don't know. For the speed and acceleration experts of this forum:
    1. What trustworthy acceleration tests have been done with 997.2 manual, and what does it show in comparison to 997.1 manual?
    2. 'ring time is rumored to be 10 second faster with 997.2 PDK vs. 997.1 manual. Has there been a test of 997.2 manual?

     

     

    I like the way you put that: "eliminate the PDK variable".

    Nobody's denying the PDK's efficiency and quality. But just how satisfying are these types of transmission over the long run? To me, the PDK's still an auto box. After 10 minutes of playing around with it, you end up putting it in Drive and leaving it there. That means you don't get the tactile pleasure that only a manual can give.

    The only paddle-shifter box that I've ever tried that was more exciting to drive than a manual was Ferrari's pre-458-dual-clutch F1 automated manual. The gear-changes on those things (Modena and even more so F430) are incredibly satisfying. Too bad those boxes eat through clutches so quickly.


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