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Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
MKSGR:
KresoF1:
Order code X80 397kw/540ps
Price: 16695,70€ with Mwst.
Available: 09/2010
Must order PCCBs and Sport Chrono Turbo with X80.
Also new for MY11 new exterior color Luxorbeige Metallic.
Not cheap...
Understatement of the week... 
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Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
Porker:What's been changed? I hope the price comprises the PCCB's. Otherwise it means 25k Euro's for an additional 40hp?
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Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
PTV Plus is also available (optional). It should improve handling substantially.
Btw: the same power kit will be very likely available for the Cayenne Turbo next year.
I also heard that 0-200 kph performance improves by almost two seconds with the powerkit due to a new PDK programming too. Time will tell...the Panamera Turbo PK X80 will be a very fast limousine.
I'm very curious about the 0-200 kph performance of the new M5. Rumors indicate "below 13 seconds". Would be similar to the Panamera Turbo PK I guess.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
nick1:
I wonder how much of the New Technology we will See in the 991.
Torque vectoring will be definitely available on the 991. Otherwise, I'm not sure what "new technology" you mean. 
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
RC:
nick1:
I wonder how much of the New Technology we will See in the 991.
Torque vectoring will be definitely available on the 991. Otherwise, I'm not sure what "new technology" you mean.
I expect a lot of emissions and fuel consumption tech, from powertrain (e.g. energy regeneration) , tyres, aerodynamics etc.
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Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
KresoF1:
Order code X80 397kw/540ps
Price: 16695,70€ with Mwst.
Available: 09/2010
Must order PCCBs and Sport Chrono Turbo with X80.
Also new for MY11 new exterior color Luxorbeige Metallic.
So we should guess that the future Panamera Turbo S and Cayenne Turbo S will have more then 550bhp... and probably they will not be on the market so soon (maybe in the middle life cycle of this two - Panamera and Cayenne)... if not what´s the point for this powerkit
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
Raz (NC):
RC,
Do you know the difference between PTV (which is standard on the panamera turbo correct?) and PTV Plus?
PTV Plus optimises steering behaviour by intervening in the brakes on the inner rear wheel in a bend and generating an additional rotational force acting in the same direction as the steering wheel. The result is even more direct and dynamic steering when entering a bend – and at the same time PTV Plus, in conjunction with the rear axle differential, improves traction on the rear wheels when accelerating out of a bend on the road.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
pjd:
... if not what´s the point for this powerkit
The "point" is very simple: to make money with a feature which costs Porsche almost nothing since not many parts are different (if any, probably just the software) and the powerkit was part of the initial development of the turbo engine.
Panamera Turbo S and Cayenne Turbo S will very likely get 550 HP, like you mentioned but it is too early to tell. It depends on the competition and the facelift.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
Does anyone know when they will start building 2011 turbos? I had a May build date for a 2011 Panamera turbo and have been told by the dealer that the only car Porsche is building now is the new 6 cylinder model. They don't seem to know when the 8 cylinder models will go back into production for the USA so my build date is slipping away.
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
nick1:
RC:
nick1:
I wonder how much of the New Technology we will See in the 991.
Torque vectoring will be definitely available on the 991. Otherwise, I'm not sure what "new technology" you mean.
things like brake energy recuperation and such...
Yes but why would this be important ? This is actually only of value for the marketing department because with my driving style, fuel consumption will always be high. 
Take my current BMW X5 M family car, some people are reporting fuel consumption values around 16-17 liters / 100 km but I never got under 20 liters / 100 km. I don't buy a sports car or a powerful truck and don't take advantage of it's capabilities. Doesn't make sense.
When somebody asks me "how much fuel does your 997 Turbo eat up", I usually ignore him. Really? On a 150000 EUR car, you care about fuel consumption?!
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
RC:
When somebody asks me "how much fuel does your 997 Turbo eat up", I usually ignore him. Really? On a 150000 EUR car, you care about fuel consumption?!
I don't care about it, but it is nice to know.
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The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
I see your point - but then: if you drive around 50.000km per year a difference in fuel consumption of around 5l/100km results in a cost saving of approx. 3500 Euros p.a. (assuming German fuel prices). If such reduction in fuel consumption comes at no cost in terms of "fun" I happily take the cost advantage 
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
RC:
nick1:
RC:
nick1:
I wonder how much of the New Technology we will See in the 991.
Torque vectoring will be definitely available on the 991. Otherwise, I'm not sure what "new technology" you mean.
things like brake energy recuperation and such...
Yes but why would this be important ? This is actually only of value for the marketing department because with my driving style, fuel consumption will always be high.
Take my current BMW X5 M family car, some people are reporting fuel consumption values around 16-17 liters / 100 km but I never got under 20 liters / 100 km. I don't buy a sports car or a powerful truck and don't take advantage of it's capabilities. Doesn't make sense.
When somebody asks me "how much fuel does your 997 Turbo eat up", I usually ignore him. Really? On a 150000 EUR car, you care about fuel consumption?!
--RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
i am not actually concerned about fuel consumption, the brake recuperation technology was just an example, i also was thinking about active aerodynamics (a la 458).
i would just like to see more new technology and not just new head- and rearlights with the 991
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
nick1:
RC:
nick1:
RC:
nick1:
I wonder how much of the New Technology we will See in the 991.
Torque vectoring will be definitely available on the 991. Otherwise, I'm not sure what "new technology" you mean.
things like brake energy recuperation and such...
Yes but why would this be important ? This is actually only of value for the marketing department because with my driving style, fuel consumption will always be high.
Take my current BMW X5 M family car, some people are reporting fuel consumption values around 16-17 liters / 100 km but I never got under 20 liters / 100 km. I don't buy a sports car or a powerful truck and don't take advantage of it's capabilities. Doesn't make sense.
When somebody asks me "how much fuel does your 997 Turbo eat up", I usually ignore him. Really? On a 150000 EUR car, you care about fuel consumption?!
--RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
i am not actually concerned about fuel consumption, the brake recuperation technology was just an example, i also was thinking about active aerodynamics (a la 458).i would just like to see more new technology and not just new head- and rearlights with the 991
Except for two little flaps at the front there is not much active aerodynacs at a 458.
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The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
MKSGR:
I see your point - but then: if you drive around 50.000km per year a difference in fuel consumption of around 5l/100km results in a cost saving of approx. 3500 Euros p.a. (assuming German fuel prices). If such reduction in fuel consumption comes at no cost in terms of "fun" I happily take the cost advantage
Our "common" friend drives 60000 km per year...now in a Ferrari 599. Fuel consumption is around 30-35 liters / 100 km...average, since he always uses the power of this car.
In the past, he was driving a BMW 7 series Diesel to save on fuel but I guess he realized that you can't replace driving fun by thinking about fuel expenses. 
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
RC:
MKSGR:
I see your point - but then: if you drive around 50.000km per year a difference in fuel consumption of around 5l/100km results in a cost saving of approx. 3500 Euros p.a. (assuming German fuel prices). If such reduction in fuel consumption comes at no cost in terms of "fun" I happily take the cost advantage
Our "common" friend drives 60000 km per year...now in a Ferrari 599. Fuel consumption is around 30-35 liters / 100 km...average, since he always uses the power of this car.
In the past, he was driving a BMW 7 series Diesel to save on fuel but I guess he realized that you can't replace driving fun by thinking about fuel expenses.
Our friend should go and get a GT2 or GT2 RS. He could then be even faster and still have an average fuel consumption of just 14-15l/100km 
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
You forgot he owns a Carrera GT too ?! 
He told me about that amazing GT3 RSR with over 800 HP he "met" at a driver event, sounds like an incredible car.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M, BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Re: Porsche Power Kit for Panamera Turbo
RC:
You forgot he owns a Carrera GT too ?!
He told me about that amazing GT3 RSR with over 800 HP he "met" at a driver event, sounds like an incredible car.
I assume the 800 HP GT3 RSR is twin turbo? If not what have they done to make an NA engine that powerful!? 
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