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    Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    For quite some time, I have admired the newer LED taillights now offered on 2010 Turbos and was hoping to be able to make the conversion on mine. I wanted to wait until someone has already made the swap on their 2007-2009 Turbos successfully. When erazer72 (Ethan) posted that his team was able to do it successfully on a 2009 Turbo, I decided to move forward with the project. Ethan and I corresponded a few times about getting the parts needed. I had the guys at Motoring Unlimited in Issaquah, WA do the job for me. They were very thorough and persistent in getting everything installed correctly and working properly. I'd highly recommend using those guys if you're up here in the Northwest. The guys working there are Porsche technicians. Following Ethan's post here (http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/997-996-turbo/40303-offering-help-997-2-led-swap.html), we thought the swap would be relatively straightforward. As we did the installation, we found out that there were quite a few more hurdles to the swap than we originally thought. I'll elaborate a bit further as I explain the steps involved in making the switchover. 
     
    The parts needed are:
    Exhaust surrounds (left & right, 997-505-651-02-01C and 997-505-652-02-01C)
    LED taillights (left & right, 997-631-413-02 and 997-631-414-03)
     
    There are actually two bumpers, one with the parking sensor holes and one without:
     
    Mine has the parking sensors so I got this one:
    997-505-941-10 (For some reason this one costs about $100 dollars more)
    Without parking sensor holes
    997-0505-941-09
     
    Bumper support bracket (997-505-641-03)
    Front & rear control units (I'll explain this later too)
    Front (997-618-513-01)
    Rear (997-618-260-08)
     
    Taillights and exhaust surrounds 
     
     
    Comparing the old vs new taillights
     
     
    Taillights (left & right, 997-631-413-02 and 997-631-414-03)
     
    Compare the old taillights with the new. There's no exposed wiring on the new one
     
    New bumper has a different cutout for the new taillights
     
    Bumper support bracket since two of the screwholes are in different places on the new bumper compared to the older bumper 
     
    The support bracket comes in black but you really won't be able to tell since it's mostly covered by the bumper
     
    Some of the parts ready to go
     
    New bumper all ready to go
     
    Getting my Turbo ready for the installation
     
    They also took the time to check my tires and clean up my suspension components. These guys are very thorough!
     
    I need new tires soon
     
    The insides were VERY dirty. They cleaned that up for me
     
    The last time I'll see this bumper on my car
     
     
    Removing my old bumper
     
    No bumper
     
     
    Test fitting the new taillight
     
    Nice to see what's behind the bumper. The intercooler! Cool!
     
     
    Taking the components off the old bumper
     
    New vs old bumper
     
    It was at this point that Jake realized that the sensor bracket on my old bumper was different than the new one
     
     
    Old sensor bracket
     
    New sensor bracket
     
    It appeared that Porsche changed the sensor to use a longer type and it would not work with my old sensors which was a bit too big for the bracket
     
    We had to decide what to do. Either order new sensors or try to swap the brackets from the old to the new. We decided to swap the brackets. We took the old brackets off.
     
    Using epoxy resin, we put the brackets on the new bumper
     
    Perfect fit
     
     
    Removing the bumperettes
     
    Installing the bumperettes on the new bumper
     
    The old tntercooler trim had to be removed too
     
    All the pieces holding the trim piece
     
     
    The new exhaust surround is quite a bit larger than the old one but it fit perfectly with my TechArt tips
     
    A little bit of plastic tabbing had to be cut from the LED taillights to work with the wiring harness
     
     
    Removing the lower trim piece
     
     
    Old bumper
     
    New bumper is almost ready to be put on
     
    Front trunk is where the front control unit is.
     
    We had to remove most of the trim pieces to reach the unit. In Ethan's original posting, he mentions that it was necessary to swap the #14 to 34 and 6 to 21 pins in the black connector of the front control unit. As we discovered when things were put back together, there things weren't working the way they should be. There was no option in the PIWIS to turn the LED mode on. The rear LED taillights were blinking fast, and the left driving lights were not coming on at all. Our guess was that it was because my 2007 Turbo had an older control unit. We then ordered the front control unit from the 2009 Turbo and installed it. At this point, the LED option showed up but things were still not working correctly. We then ordered the rear control unit from the 2009 Turbo too. We also swapped the the pins for the front from #11 to 36 because Ethan says it'd be necessary to do that if the lights were flashing fast. The rears were swapped from #42 to 31. So, if you have a 2007 or even a 2008, it might be necessary to get the newer control units. You'll know for sure by looking at the part numbers on both control units. Once we got both front and rear control units installed, the LED option was showing up in the PIWIS but the lights were still not 
    working correctly. The front turn signals weren't even working at all. We then switched the pins for the front control unit back to the way it was before and but left the rear control units the way they were as specified in Ethan's original posting and everything was finally working correctly!
     
    PIWIS setup
     
     
    Rear control unit is under the driver's seat on my 2007 Turbo. Not sure if it's in a different places in other model years
     
     
    Working on the connectors
     
     
    Installing the parking sensors
     
    Installing the lower trim piece
     
     
    When we installed the new bumper. We discovered that the exhaust shield opening was too small because of the smaller exhaust 
     
    surrounds on the old bumper. We had to trim the shielding a bit for the new one to fit in place as a result.
     
    Taking the bumper off again
     
    Reattaching the bumper after trimming the exhaust shield
     
    Missing the taillight
     
    The discarded bumper bracket
     
    Once on, it looked absolutely gorgeous!
     
    This is the way it should have looked all along!
     
     
    Programming the new control modules to accept the LED taillights is necessary too
     
    Finishing things up
     
    Exhaust tips looks good!
     
    Once we got the wiring and programming all sorted out, everything finally was working!
     
    Brake lights
     
    My car looks really good with the new bumper and taillights!
     
    Home at last
     
    LEDs up close
     
    Turn signals work too
     
    In closing, I'd like to say that I'm very happy with the end results of this whole thing. It took four days to get it done mainly because we kept having to overnight parts from the dealership to make everything work properly. I hope that this has been helpful for you guys and gives those of you on the fence on making the changes, reason to make the jump. In all, this whole thing cost me about $3000 in parts, painting, labor, etc.
     
    I'll do a photoshoot of my car with the new LED taillights soon.

    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Thanks Jason,really good write up!I think if someone is interested,can't go wrong with this "how to"!

     


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

     Great write up!  


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    I love the result, but I would never have had the courage to put in all this effort for a relatively minor change.

    Wouldn't this have been a chance to order a Euro-bumper, so you could get rid of the bumperettes?


    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Beautiful result and a very interesting write-up. Glad to hear from you again Jason


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

     Although I don't post much, that doesn't mean I don't miss you folks. I try to pop in every now and then. 

    Porker, I did consider getting the Euro bumperettes but it would have looked a bit odd with the smaller license plate and nothing on either side I thought. I'm happy with the end results as you all can see. 


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

     Thats a great way to refresh the image of your car. do you think a mod like this would have any impact on the resale value of the car? either positive or negative?

    Great pictures as always, even repair shots are well done 


    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Great pics as usual, welcome back!


    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

     Thanks..but I still don't plan to come back too often. I find this new interface still too confusing. It took me 5 minutes to figure out where the "new thread" button! 


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

     Looks great Jason! I too like the new tail lights much better. 


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Hey Jason,


    Good to see you back posting pics of your beauty. Great writeup and classy mod for sure, what a difference it is. Cannot wait for your new images!! 

    Take care.


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    indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine..  I happen to like both :) 


    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    atomic80:

    Although I don't post much, that doesn't mean I don't miss you folks. I try to pop in every now and then. 


    Good to hear from you again, Jason! Smiley

    And great writeup, I really enjoyed this thread. Smiley
     


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    atomic80:

     Thanks..but I still don't plan to come back too often. I find this new interface still too confusing. It took me 5 minutes to figure out where the "new thread" button! 


    The more you use it, the easier it gets. Smiley
     


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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.


    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    atomic80:
    Old bumper
     
     

    Hi Jason, nice to see you around again, been missing you.

     

    Gotta love a shop a pallet of beer sitting around


    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    ^ Good catch.


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Wow nice to hear from you Jason! I wish we had your post when we were doing my LED lights 2 months ago! If I understood correctly you managed to put the 2010 parking sensors? We ended up putting the 2007 sensors on the new bumper and works well now! The 2010 did not work with the old ecu.. Its certainly a nice mod and makes the look look a lot fresher. I ended up also getting the vents in the front for a complete 2010 look. I recommend them and they are a straightforward mod and not too expensive.

    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Wow, great photo description...absolutely marvelous. Thanks a lot !  

    Welcome back, we missed you. 


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    Hey Jason,

    Very nice and informative thread, and I got to say, your pictures, even those of the most trivial subjects, seem te be always of high quality... makes me realize I got a lot to learn still!

    Nice to be hearing from you every now and then on the forum, your presence is dearly missed!

    -Joost-


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Thanks for the effort to describe the entire procedure, was a joy to read! Great to see you back, as well.


    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Yes we missed you! 


    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    WoW Jason !!! Insane look, its just perfect now !!! ...I saw some photos of your car, and was even doubting if you upgraded to the mk2 ....

    Awesome pics, that shop is more clean than many houses !!!!


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Thanks for taking the effort Jason! GREAT  Documentation!

    I was already long interested to see what is needed to do to change those ugly rear lights to the splendid new ones!

    But I'm kind of shocked to read that next to bumper and lights you also need to change the control unit. This is enormous!

    Thanks mate - and this was the right decision to do. The car looks amazing this color is the best to go for a sporty looking Turbo. And with the new rear the car looks 1 Million times better!


    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

     Thank you everyone! It feels good to be back although I'm still unsure about actually coming back because honestly the site is a bit slow for me even using Google Chrome. I find this site a bit confusing which is why I left in the first place. I know I should give it another try and maybe I will because having you folks around is what makes it all worthwhile!

    Here's another picture of the Cobalt twins together to show the differences between our taillights. Old vs new. I've already asked if he plans to make th upgrade and no, he doesn't.


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    atomic80:

     

     

    The car looks lightyears newer!


    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Sure looks better the "new" look..

    i will think about a few...


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    997 TT, what a car/che'mmmmmaghena!!!

    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Looks gorgeous  The 2nd generation tail lights really do look sharper and more up to date - and the side by side comparison really brings out the difference I especially love how they look at night.

    Although it was quite an involved job to undertake, since I assume you plan to keep the 997.1 TT, I think you made a good move doing the upgrade `


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

     Yes, I do plan to keep the Turbo for as long as I can even with the forthcoming F-car "upgrade." 


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    Nice write up.  Beautiful baby!


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    Re: Swapping the 997.1TT taillights to the newer 997.2TT LED taillights on my Turbo!

    atomic80:


     


    Such a great pic. Smiley
     


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