pride355:
Porker:
IMO, Webber making room for Vettel equals letting him pass, he just held position. It's his right to do so, Vettel made the move, he has to make sure he ends it safely, he should know his competitor is not obliged to make room when batteling for position. You can't just bully your way passed.
+1 This is exactly what happened. They haven't come to turning point for the left-hand corner and evenif Vettel was in front of Webber, he wasn't front for a whole length of a car. So sudden manouver to the right is not acceptable, IMO. Webber kept his position and he doesn't have to brake to let Vettel pass.
IMO, it is all Vettel's fault. If you made the move, you have to make sure how it ends. You can't just cut the other car once your front wheels pass him..
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This is the point, its not the same when the guy being overtaken is entering a corner and cuts the turn, in spite being overtaken and crashing with the other driver. In that case if you can't make the corner in front anymore you need to let him pass.
But if you are in the straight still, and the other driver gets side by side while in the straight YOU DO NOT HAVE TO STEP ON THE BRAKE! just because he is next to you, half a car in front or behind, you can still keep going straight, in your line, until the corner comes and then after the braking, the right of way will be decided by who is in front in the end and in the good line. Its THEN you let pass, not before while still in the straight.
How many times we have seen overtake attempts and the driver being almost overtaken on the straight still manages to hold the line under braking and aborts the overtake? Webber was on the straight driving straight! he did nothing wrong, since when should a driver move a side while still on the straight? its Vettel that as soon a he got half a car length ahead turned suddenly onto Webber's car, in spite having all the space in the world on his side.
Guess Vettel thought that Webber doesn't deserve a shot at the championship and needs to simply move aside for him (in spite of being outperformed in the last races and behind in the points). Hence Vettel probably thought that Webber would have lifted the throttle in the middle of the straight like a lapped driver under a blue flag and though Webber was already behind him and not side by side still.
I think this was the problem, Vettel thought Webber let him pass and swerved right for a better line into the next corner, he didn't think Webber was going to fight the overtake ( which he had every right to ) And Webber in turn, did not expect for Vettel to swerve into him in the middle of the straight. Does anybody think that Vettel would of done that maneuver if Hamilton was the one he was overtaking?
And seems like the team, since Webber may be substituted next year and their "investment" is Vettel, also thinks Webber should move aside like if he was a lapped driver Difficult situation for Webber in the team, I feel sorry for him, and that is why I'll be cheering for him in the next races, he showed a lot of class after the race as well.
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