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May 3, 2010 6:36:14 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: Crash

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Crash:

MKSGR:

Crash:

trip:

KresoF1:

I can confirm the number that Stefan posted.

Price will be huge, specially with some options.

Interior is a la 997.2 GT3RS...

Weight is without any option. So, NO Navi or any sound system for example.

Also... According to my info 997.2 GT3RS is the sportscar for KENNER. Or for very, very skilled sportscar driver.

Do you mean the 997.2 GT2RS is the sportscar for KENNER?

More or less a car for experts and enthusiasts.

Honestly, I am most interested in whether the car is also approved for winter tires

P.S.: According to SportAuto the GT3RS is even more comfortable - no joke... - than the regular GT3. The perfect daily driver

Is the GT3RS approved for winter tyres? Interesting to find that it is more comfortable than the basic GT3.

Hopefully, somebody at my dealer can tell me the answers... I am most curious. Also, of course, about the possible confirmation of the other rumoured "facts" we discuss above... Smiley

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May 3, 2010 6:44:48 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Markus, about 620ps... Competitors are VERY good lately. That is the answer why full 620ps.

Porsche knows what kind of time 458 can do on the Ring. They also know what amazing time McLaren MP4-12C achieved lately on the Ring(that white VP8 car)... Even R8 GT is very, very fast on the Ring.

So, full 620ps was needed. Just, as I said before it is the car for kenner...

BTW,997.2 GT2RS interior is way too ascetic for my taste. When you see the pics you will know why.

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May 3, 2010 6:49:35 PM

Spyderidol: Rennteam Master; Loc: Mozambique; Posts: 5807, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 25, 2007; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Oh boy! Arakis is going to have a sht fit!

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May 3, 2010 6:52:54 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: 997 GT2 RS

KresoF1:

BTW,997.2 GT2RS interior is way too ascetic for my taste. When you see the pics you will know why.

That's how we like it Smiley

BTW, you are probably right about the competitive pressure: today a big step is needed to re-establish an adequate leadership position Smiley Still, I am VERY surprised that Porsche might indeed sell a car like this. Honestly, this car (if the specs are correct) will be revolutionary Smiley

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May 3, 2010 6:55:36 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 997 GT2 RS

BTW, Markus German price with Mwst is around 237405€... When you add some options you can land at 250K € level...

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May 3, 2010 6:57:56 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: 997 GT2 RS

KresoF1:

BTW, Markus German price with Mwst is around 237405€... When you add some options you can land at 250K € level...

Could be cheaper, indeed. However, if you think about the performance (again assuming the specs are right). No other car will offer that level of performance at a similar price tag. Also, the car comes in 100% stealth optic - if ordered in black rarely anybody will know what kind of car this is... With full warranty and everything. Perfect tool for everyday and fastest on any track Smiley

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May 3, 2010 6:59:35 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Kreso, is the interior more extreme than that of the GT3 RS? I think the GT3RS interior is quite OK. Just the essentials...

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May 3, 2010 7:01:09 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: 997 GT2 RS

KresoF1:

So, full 620ps was needed. Just, as I said before it is the car for kenner...

By Kenner you mean top expert, I presume?

If that is the case it could develop a reputation of a "widow maker" especially if the mid-engined rivals are more user friendly on the NBR track and elsewhere.

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"Form follows function"

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May 3, 2010 7:04:45 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 997 GT2 RS

MKSGR:

Kreso, is the interior more extreme than that of the GT3 RS? I think the GT3RS interior is quite OK. Just the essentials...

Markus,

Interior is a la GT3 RS. If you like this... Smiley

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May 3, 2010 7:05:49 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: 997 GT2 RS

KresoF1:

MKSGR:

Kreso, is the interior more extreme than that of the GT3 RS? I think the GT3RS interior is quite OK. Just the essentials...

Markus,

Interior is a la GT3 RS. If you like this...

Well, I agree that this kind of interior shows all facets of plastic available on the market today Smiley A BASF employee will love that look... But then: it is functional and light weight Smiley

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May 3, 2010 7:06:58 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: reginos

Re: 997 GT2 RS

reginos:

KresoF1:

So, full 620ps was needed. Just, as I said before it is the car for kenner...

By Kenner you mean top expert, I presume?

If that is the case it could develop a reputation of a "widow maker" especially if the mid-engined rivals are more user friendly on the NBR track and elsewhere.

Yes, top expert driver.

And I agree with you about Mezger and manual only. It is a car for even more individual buyer then Audi R8 GT(which is with same options about 50K € cheaper)...

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May 3, 2010 7:27:59 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: KresoF1

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Well it is almost established that Porsche in the past always witheld some performance in their cars because they could. Now they need to step up and they have, look at the improvements of all the 997.2...

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May 3, 2010 7:44:14 PM

BiTurbo: Rennteam Master; Loc: X , United States; Posts: 3252, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2006; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: 997 GT2 RS

To GT2 owners: would you replace the MK1 GT2 for GT2 RS ? or add the RS to the stable ?

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May 3, 2010 7:46:56 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: BiTurbo

Re: 997 GT2 RS

BiTurbo:

To GT2 owners: would you replace the MK1 GT2 for GT2 RS ? or add the RS to the stable ?

Personally, I would just replace Mk1. Mk2 seems to be the perfect substitute Smiley

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May 3, 2010 7:52:22 PM

Spyderidol: Rennteam Master; Loc: Mozambique; Posts: 5807, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 25, 2007; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 997 GT2 RS

This car will be historic.

In years to come we will reminisce about this car.

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May 3, 2010 8:06:30 PM

BiTurbo: Rennteam Master; Loc: X , United States; Posts: 3252, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2006; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 997 GT2 RS

MKSGR:

BiTurbo:

To GT2 owners: would you replace the MK1 GT2 for GT2 RS ? or add the RS to the stable ?

Personally, I would just replace Mk1. Mk2 seems to be the perfect substitute

I'm interested in the options list, what can be added and what not

For instance, the front axle lift system means a lot to me while backing out the car, I have to turn the steering wheel fully to the right to avoid rubbing the front lip (it happened the first 2 days)

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May 3, 2010 8:51:18 PM

Leblanc: Junior; Loc: Porto , Portugal; Posts: 136, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 4, 2009; Reply to: BiTurbo

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Wow..Porsche it´s not kidding...RESPECT REQUIRED!

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May 3, 2010 8:51:22 PM

Turbocharger: Junior; Loc: Doha , Qatar; Posts: 73, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 10, 2007; Reply to: BiTurbo

Re: 997 GT2 RS

BiTurbo:

To GT2 owners: would you replace the MK1 GT2 for GT2 RS ? or add the RS to the stable ?

there is no keep the MK1 GT2 if this info is right Smiley
90hp more, 90kg less Smiley

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May 3, 2010 9:15:53 PM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12681, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Turbocharger

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Maybe we will know more already tomorrow, since press embargo might end earlier than expected.

BTW, 0 to 200 kph could be less than 9 seconds, gentlemen.

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May 3, 2010 9:17:21 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: Rossi

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Rossi:

Maybe we will know more already tomorrow, since press embargo might end earlier than expected.

BTW, 0 to 200 kph in less than 9 seconds, gentlemen.

Given the rather "normal" 0-100kph time 100-200 will be quite quick then Smiley

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May 3, 2010 9:33:16 PM

ale75: Junior; Loc: piacenza-italy; Posts: 70, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 10, 2005; Reply to: Rossi

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Rossi:

Maybe we will know more already tomorrow, since press embargo might end earlier than expected.

BTW, 0 to 200 kph could be less than 9 seconds, gentlemen.

and 0-300kph close 20seconds Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

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May 3, 2010 9:39:32 PM

TB993tt: Rennteam Pro; Loc: manchester , United Kingdom; Posts: 2280, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 22, 2002; Reply to: ale75

Re: 997 GT2 RS

ale75:

and 0-300kph close 20seconds

did we say 620PS or 720 Smiley

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May 3, 2010 10:00:31 PM

GT: Senior; Loc: london , United Kingdom; Posts: 618, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 14, 2006; Reply to: TB993tt

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Lol Tobby, I had actually starting writing sth along these lines too! For sub 9sec to 200 and sub 20 second to 300 with manual box you need A LOT of juice.. But nevertheless 620 factory hp is mighty impressive. Can't wait to see how they got that in terms of cooling, turbos, intake and as you said exhaust flow. This car might become a classic..

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May 3, 2010 10:46:30 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21152, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 997 GT2 RS

MKSGR:

Gnil:

ale75:

MKSGR:

Some rumours spread on the net indicate a 0-200 of slightly below 10s and a 0-300 of about 25s. Should be correct IF the car indeed had 620hp (which I still doubt very, very much). With the shorter gearing (top speed unchanged compared to GT2 Mk1) the above acceleration numbers could be correct

From Lepzig

300 will made

90kg less than 997.1GT2

0-100 3.2

620HP

0-200 BELOW 10S ...not slighty below

0-300 Below 25s --not slighty below

much carbonfibre

If those numbers are confirmed , Porsche hit hard and wanted to make a point.

Finally a car that might be even faster than the Nissan GTR

Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

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May 3, 2010 10:50:34 PM

NelsonF: Junior; Loc: California , United States; Posts: 91, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 5, 2007; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: 997 GT2 RS

997.2 GT2 RS launched in Leipzig

Launched to VIPs this weekend
Look at the size of those intakes!

300 units limited edition

90kg less than 997.1 GT2

0-100 km 3.2

620HP

0-200 well below 10s

0-300 well below 25s

Ring rumoured at 7.22

Interior a la 997.2 RS

Details on general release 14th May

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May 3, 2010 11:01:00 PM

mv: Senior; Loc:; Posts: 519, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 8, 2004; Reply to: Rossi

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Rossi:

Maybe we will know more already tomorrow, since press embargo might end earlier than expected.

BTW, 0 to 200 kph could be less than 9 seconds, gentlemen.

Do you really believe it ? Sportec and 9ff GT2 with 750/800hp does it above 9s. I know that Porsche hp is usually stronger than tuners, but anyway....

3,2s and under 10s for 0-100/0-200 is already crazy for a RWD non-PDK car.

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May 4, 2010 4:37:58 AM

hesperus: Junior; Loc: Philippines; Posts: 110, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 28, 2004; Reply to: mv

Re: 997 GT2 RS

the above info is correct.

i also have seen detailed pictures of the car in the photo above.

unfortunately i cannot post them, out of respect to my source. however, i will describe some details you cannot see from the above picture:

- the hood (luggage compartment cover) is carbon, and on the launch car, is unpainted

- the front splitter is as we saw in early spy shots and has something that look like "teeth" in the center section. it is very deep, and is in carbon

- the lower part of the rear bumper is in black, all along the lower edge below the exhaust tips

- the interior is a little bit "ricey" in my opinion, at least on this car. it is black, alcantara everywhere, but with RED accents on the steering wheel, shifter, door handles, center console and arm rests.

- the wheels are in gold (as you can see in the picture above)

- there is a tiny "GT2RS" script behind the front wheels. much much smaller than the script on the GT3RS

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May 4, 2010 5:36:10 AM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8054, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: hesperus

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Thanks for the details, car seems magnificent.

It looks to me that the intakes are not larger, just without the central fin removed and painted all grey (or carbon fibre).

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May 4, 2010 5:37:51 AM

Spyderidol: Rennteam Master; Loc: Mozambique; Posts: 5807, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 25, 2007; Reply to: Joost

Re: 997 GT2 RS

You are correct. They are not necessarily larger (wider or longer) but they are most certainly more "open".

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May 4, 2010 5:42:49 AM

Super Darius: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Italy-Como , Italy; Posts: 4084, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 7, 2002; Reply to: Spyderidol

Re: 997 GT2 RS

Thanks Piech! hahahha

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