IMO, without a modern DFI and PDK it won't be a technology tour de force to rival 458 italia, SLS etc.
It will be just another ultra fast car for the track specialists.
I'll be very disappointed if Porsche stick to the stone age with the Metzger engine and a 6- speed manual. The game has moved on by competitors.
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"Form follows function"
reginos:
IMO, without a modern DFI and PDK it won't be a technology tour de force to rival 458 italia, SLS etc.
It will be just another ultra fast car for the track specialists.
I'll be very disappointed if Porsche stick to the stone age with the Metzger engine and a 6- speed manual. The game has moved on by competitors.
--"Form follows function"
Believe me, if this car has indeed 600hp (or even more) it will kill everything out there including the 458 Scuderia and the new McLaren. Just look at the improved lap times from GT3 to GT3 RS this major jump in terms of performance was achieved with only a minor hp upgrade (major improvements beeing shorter gearing, wider front tires, new tire mix, new suspension setup). If you take these mods and then add another 70, 80 or 90hp (!) (compared to GT2 Mk2) the result will be mind blowing Of course, also adding PDK would bring another significant performance increase. But Porsche needs some headroom for the next generations of the 911
Some rumours spread on the net indicate a 0-200 of slightly below 10s and a 0-300 of about 25s. Should be correct IF the car indeed had 620hp (which I still doubt very, very much). With the shorter gearing (top speed unchanged compared to GT2 Mk1) the above acceleration numbers could be correct
MKSGR:
Some rumours spread on the net indicate a 0-200 of slightly below 10s and a 0-300 of about 25s. Should be correct IF the car indeed had 620hp (which I still doubt very, very much). With the shorter gearing (top speed unchanged compared to GT2 Mk1) the above acceleration numbers could be correct
From Lepzig
300 will made
90kg less than 997.1GT2
0-100 3.2
620HP
0-200 BELOW 10S ...not slighty below
0-300 Below 25s --not slighty below
much carbonfibre
ale75:
MKSGR:
Some rumours spread on the net indicate a 0-200 of slightly below 10s and a 0-300 of about 25s. Should be correct IF the car indeed had 620hp (which I still doubt very, very much). With the shorter gearing (top speed unchanged compared to GT2 Mk1) the above acceleration numbers could be correct
From Lepzig300 will made
90kg less than 997.1GT2
0-100 3.2
620HP
0-200 BELOW 10S ...not slighty below
0-300 Below 25s --not slighty below
much carbonfibre
If those numbers are confirmed , Porsche hit hard and wanted to make a point.
997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm
Gnil:
ale75:
MKSGR:
Some rumours spread on the net indicate a 0-200 of slightly below 10s and a 0-300 of about 25s. Should be correct IF the car indeed had 620hp (which I still doubt very, very much). With the shorter gearing (top speed unchanged compared to GT2 Mk1) the above acceleration numbers could be correct
From Lepzig300 will made
90kg less than 997.1GT2
0-100 3.2
620HP
0-200 BELOW 10S ...not slighty below
0-300 Below 25s --not slighty below
much carbonfibre
If those numbers are confirmed , Porsche hit hard and wanted to make a point.
Finally a car that might be even faster than the Nissan GTR
ale75:
MKSGR:
Some rumours spread on the net indicate a 0-200 of slightly below 10s and a 0-300 of about 25s. Should be correct IF the car indeed had 620hp (which I still doubt very, very much). With the shorter gearing (top speed unchanged compared to GT2 Mk1) the above acceleration numbers could be correct
From Lepzig300 will made
90kg less than 997.1GT2
0-100 3.2
620HP
0-200 BELOW 10S ...not slighty below
0-300 Below 25s --not slighty below
much carbonfibre
Hmmmm Still cannot believe it. Too good to be true
Gnil:
ale75:
MKSGR:
Some rumours spread on the net indicate a 0-200 of slightly below 10s and a 0-300 of about 25s. Should be correct IF the car indeed had 620hp (which I still doubt very, very much). With the shorter gearing (top speed unchanged compared to GT2 Mk1) the above acceleration numbers could be correct
From Lepzig300 will made
90kg less than 997.1GT2
0-100 3.2
620HP
0-200 BELOW 10S ...not slighty below
0-300 Below 25s --not slighty below
much carbonfibre
If those numbers are confirmed , Porsche hit hard and wanted to make a point.
987 Boxster S, Arctic Silver with 'Martini Racing' Livery, H&R Monotube Coil-Overs, H&R Anti Roll Bars, Strut Brace, FVD ECU, BMC Air Filter, Sachs Racing Clutch, Single-Mass Flywheel, Recaro Racing Shells, PSE.
997 Carrera 4S, Guards Red, Bilstein PSS10 Damptronic, H&R Anti Roll Bars, IPD Plenum, Dension Gateway 500, PSE.
MKSGR:
Gnil:
ale75:
MKSGR:
Some rumours spread on the net indicate a 0-200 of slightly below 10s and a 0-300 of about 25s. Should be correct IF the car indeed had 620hp (which I still doubt very, very much). With the shorter gearing (top speed unchanged compared to GT2 Mk1) the above acceleration numbers could be correct
From Lepzig300 will made
90kg less than 997.1GT2
0-100 3.2
620HP
0-200 BELOW 10S ...not slighty below
0-300 Below 25s --not slighty below
much carbonfibre
If those numbers are confirmed , Porsche hit hard and wanted to make a point.Finally a car that might be even faster than the Nissan GTR
Exactly !!! They got fed up of seing the Gt2 being compared to the Datsun... I guess Nissan made a point too
997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm
May 3, 2010 4:12:49 PM
Many thanks for first pics and info
Those intercooler air intakes look interesting, the intercooling was a bit of a problem for getting more power, these look like a functional solution for greater volume of air flow across the intercoolers = 620 reliable hp.......
90kg saving is very impressive, can't wait for final details....
What are people's thoughts on that rear wing, is it the same as the regular GT2
2009 997 GT2 659PS/827NM DIN
MKSGR:
How did they manage to reduce the weight by 90kg. That is nearly as mysterious as the (hopefully real...) hp figure of 620...
So they will be quoting 1350kg presumably ?
Weight savings :
New centrelock wheels save ~12kg
there was talk of a carbon roof skin ~6kg
carbon doors and hood ~15kg
Carrera GT seats ~10kg
No PCM 3 ~10kg
Even less sound deadening ~10kg
add in roll cage +15kg
Rudimentary door trims ~6kg
Plexiglass rear and side glass ~6kg
Single mass flywheel ~4kg
That is 64kg net saving..... now I am struggling
Anyone feel free to correct or add to the above guesstimates
2009 997 GT2 659PS/827NM DIN
TB993tt:
MKSGR:
How did they manage to reduce the weight by 90kg. That is nearly as mysterious as the (hopefully real...) hp figure of 620...
So they will be quoting 1350kg presumably ?
Weight savings :
New centrelock wheels save ~12kg
there was talk of a carbon roof skin ~6kg
carbon doors and hood ~15kg
Carrera GT seats ~10kg
No PCM 3 ~10kg
Even less sound deadening ~10kg
add in roll cage +15kg
Rudimentary door trims ~6kg
Plexiglass rear and side glass ~6kg
Single mass flywheel ~4kg
That is 64kg net saving..... now I am struggling
Anyone feel free to correct or add to the above guesstimates
Maybe the quote the weight with a small (optional) 67l tank?
TB993tt:
MKSGR:
How did they manage to reduce the weight by 90kg. That is nearly as mysterious as the (hopefully real...) hp figure of 620...
So they will be quoting 1350kg presumably ?
Weight savings :
New centrelock wheels save ~12kg
there was talk of a carbon roof skin ~6kg
carbon doors and hood ~15kg
Carrera GT seats ~10kg
No PCM 3 ~10kg
Even less sound deadening ~10kg
add in roll cage +15kg
Rudimentary door trims ~6kg
Plexiglass rear and side glass ~6kg
Single mass flywheel ~4kg
That is 64kg net saving..... now I am struggling
Anyone feel free to correct or add to the above guesstimates
The gap might be closed by the delete air conditioning I think PCM and air conditioning are key options. That might then imply a net weight reduction of about 40kg - not bad though
I can confirm the number that Stefan posted.
Price will be huge, specially with some options.
Interior is a la 997.2 GT3RS...
Weight is without any option. So, NO Navi or any sound system for example.
Also... According to my info 997.2 GT3RS is the sportscar for KENNER. Or for very, very skilled sportscar driver.
KresoF1:
I can confirm the number that Stefan posted.
Price will be huge, specially with some options.
Interior is a la 997.2 GT3RS...
Weight is without any option. So, NO Navi or any sound system for example.
Also... According to my info 997.2 GT3RS is the sportscar for KENNER. Or for very, very skilled sportscar driver.
Do you mean the 997.2 GT2RS is the sportscar for KENNER?
trip:
KresoF1:
I can confirm the number that Stefan posted.
Price will be huge, specially with some options.
Interior is a la 997.2 GT3RS...
Weight is without any option. So, NO Navi or any sound system for example.
Also... According to my info 997.2 GT3RS is the sportscar for KENNER. Or for very, very skilled sportscar driver.
Do you mean the 997.2 GT2RS is the sportscar for KENNER?
More or less a car for experts and enthusiasts.
Crash:
trip:
KresoF1:
I can confirm the number that Stefan posted.
Price will be huge, specially with some options.
Interior is a la 997.2 GT3RS...
Weight is without any option. So, NO Navi or any sound system for example.
Also... According to my info 997.2 GT3RS is the sportscar for KENNER. Or for very, very skilled sportscar driver.
Do you mean the 997.2 GT2RS is the sportscar for KENNER?More or less a car for experts and enthusiasts.
Honestly, I am most interested in whether the car is also approved for winter tires
P.S.: According to SportAuto the GT3RS is even more comfortable - no joke... - than the regular GT3. The perfect daily driver
KresoF1:
Price will be huge, specially with some options.
Interior is a la 997.2 GT3RS...
If you check out the GT3RS there are not that many options available. Might well be that the GT2 just needs some 10k in options to be a perfect allrounder: PCM, sound, phone and some small items. Not much more
MKSGR:
Crash:
trip:
KresoF1:
I can confirm the number that Stefan posted.
Price will be huge, specially with some options.
Interior is a la 997.2 GT3RS...
Weight is without any option. So, NO Navi or any sound system for example.
Also... According to my info 997.2 GT3RS is the sportscar for KENNER. Or for very, very skilled sportscar driver.
Do you mean the 997.2 GT2RS is the sportscar for KENNER?More or less a car for experts and enthusiasts.
Honestly, I am most interested in whether the car is also approved for winter tires
P.S.: According to SportAuto the GT3RS is even more comfortable - no joke... - than the regular GT3. The perfect daily driver
Is the GT3RS approved for winter tyres? Interesting to find that it is more comfortable than the basic GT3.