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Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
Wow, the car looks great 
After a long time of waiting take my sincere congratulations.
The black grill looks way better as I ever thought.
I'm seriously consider to install it on mine.
But maybe it suits better to the black colour as to the carbonblack? 
Have a good time with this wonderful car.
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Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
Rossi:
Great looking car, RC.
Better than I though all in black.
Me think so, black grills look better than I thought
Enjoy the beast in good health Christian 
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ONUR 
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Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
Love that front grill! I might look into that for our car too, although I am not sure if it will look good on our blue car.
Congrats RC! Enjoy your new car in good health. You will love it as much as we do ours. My 2 year old's favourite phrase when he is in the car is "Go fast fast". He just loves it when I accelerate hard in this car. 
Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
Great to hear you are back home safe and that the car came out exactly as optioned.
I agree with comments above the black grill gives the car a lot more character then i expected, great call on that. Can't wait for you review ! but get some rest first
Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
Here are two interior pics, the leather color (criollo brown) is actually a dark brown but the color in the photos isn't 100% accurate, it should be slightly darker (not much though) and less "red-ish". Looks very nice with the black exterior in my opinion.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M (April 9th, 2010), BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
RC:
Here are two interior pics, the leather color (criollo brown) is actually a dark brown but the color in the photos isn't 100% accurate, it should be slightly darker (not much though) and less "red-ish". Looks very nice with the black exterior in my opinion.
I thought leather dash was standard..
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ONUR
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07 997 Carrera S / 05 M3 Coupe / 03 M3 Coupe / 96 M3 Coupe EVO (ALL BUT HISTORY)
Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M (April 9th, 2010), BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Apr 11, 2010 3:38:39 AM
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Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
pride355:
RC:
Here are two interior pics, the leather color (criollo brown) is actually a dark brown but the color in the photos isn't 100% accurate, it should be slightly darker (not much though) and less "red-ish". Looks very nice with the black exterior in my opinion.
I thought leather dash was standard..
IMHO i think the standard dash suits better the M versions than the leather one.
BTW the interior color looks great RC, its already very classy, and the way you describe it "a bit darker brown" could only be better.
Apr 11, 2010 11:36:46 AM
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Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
Unfortunately I already found something annoying: the brake dive when braking, it is too strong in my opinion. It feels better when I brake less harsh and more "linear" but it is still there and it is annoying. Any X5M/X6M driver with the same experience ?
The worst thing is actually that the brake dive happens and then the chassis returns back to it's regular position, giving you the opposite effect of a dive immediately after the brake dive.
So your body moves slightly forward and then back in the opposite direction but it is a strong feel, not the normal feeling you get when you brake and come to a stop.
It is difficult for me to explain but it is definitely very annoying.
Fuel consumption: I really drive very very slow, I almost never rev above 4000 rpm and I press the throttle halfway through, not more but I always drive in "M" mode. The fuel consumption so far is exactly 20 l / 100 km. I know the car is new but I start to wonder how some people got 16 l and less. 
The HiFi High End Individual System is OK but not what I expected from this kind of price tag. The Burmester system on the Panamera is definitely better sound-wise.
Finally, the exhaust sound is LOUD (not so much in the interior but my wife and some friends told me that it is definitely very loud from the outside of the car) but not even close to what I would want to hear on a SUV. Maybe it is me but it sounds like tuned up 4-cylinder Turbo engine and in fact, the 6-cyl Turbo Diesel I drove in the X6 35d sounded not much different, even if less loud. My point is: dammit, BMW M department, give the X5/X6M a more decent and sporty sound. This cannot be it. 
Don't get me wrong, guys...these are actually the only complaints so far, the car drives great and I love the drive feel.
More in a detailled driving report soon.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M (April 9th, 2010), BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
RC:
Unfortunately I already found something annoying: the brake dive when braking, it is too strong in my opinion. It feels better when I brake less harsh and more "linear" but it is still there and it is annoying. Any X5M/X6M driver with the same experience ?
I don't think it's so much an X5M problem as a problem a driver has when he goes from a Porsche to most other types of car, and I put it down to the different "philosophies" of the car manufacturers concerned.
My theory is that Porsche cars have "harder" brake friction material than most cars do, and that Porsche has specced such materials because they resist fading better than softer pads and also allow better brake modulation during spirited driving than softer "sudden death" friction materials. The harder pads require more pedal pressure to achieve the same braking effect, but this means that the driver has more control over the braking effect by varying the pedal force over a larger range.
I've often given my wife cause for complaint when I drive her car, because I have tended to "overbrake" it initially, resulting in her being reminded of what a seat belt is good for. I find the same thing with rental cars.
My guess is most car manufacturers go for the softer materials for their better anti-squeal properties, as well as because they know that many drivers would otherwise be "Incapable" of doing a real emergency stop even in a real emergency situation. Many drivers seem to have a mental block against really putting the middle pedal to the metal when necessary.
Does anyone else find the same thing, or do I just have an over-active imagination? 
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Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
fritz:
RC:
Unfortunately I already found something annoying: the brake dive when braking, it is too strong in my opinion. It feels better when I brake less harsh and more "linear" but it is still there and it is annoying. Any X5M/X6M driver with the same experience ?
I don't think it's so much an X5M problem as a problem a driver has when he goes from a Porsche to most other types of car, and I put it down to the different "philosophies" of the car manufacturers concerned.
Fritz,
unless I am mistaken he referred to the pitch under braking (nickmoment), resulting in the front to dive. That would be caused by... ah well, I don´t need to tell you. 
Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
Hey RC, I knows it's too early but what are your plans for winter wheel and tires?
Something from the BMW or you are looking elsewhere?
What would BMW give you had you spec-ed winter tires?
I was trying to find sizes for the M in 20" and I found none. I am leaning towards getting a set of 215 in grey for summer and keeping the 300M for winter.
Re: Finally...my X5 M is on the ship...or not ?
Ferdie:
fritz:
RC:
Unfortunately I already found something annoying: the brake dive when braking, it is too strong in my opinion. It feels better when I brake less harsh and more "linear" but it is still there and it is annoying. Any X5M/X6M driver with the same experience ?
I don't think it's so much an X5M problem as a problem a driver has when he goes from a Porsche to most other types of car, and I put it down to the different "philosophies" of the car manufacturers concerned.
Fritz,unless I am mistaken he referred to the pitch under braking (nickmoment), resulting in the front to dive. That would be caused by... ah well, I don´t need to tell you.
I also thought initially that RC was just referring to insufficient ant-dive suspension geometry, but then I thought his real complaint was the dive resulting from his "normal" pedal pressure resulting in more deceleration than he bargained for, see: " It feels better when I brake less harsh and more "linear"".
Less harsh, more linear = better modulated?
Even cars with anti-dive built in still pitch forward when braked, and I suspect that eliminating it to too great an extent might cause other problems?
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