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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
Gnil:
And the lettering has to be be deleted....it is probably for the Chinese market or other Easter European ones
The large "PORSCHE" logo on Panamera and Cayenne is part of tradition BTW. Not that this makes it more attractive.
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
Gnil:
Can you elaborate ?
I would of been interested in the hybrid too.... as it would be the only way my wife would be ok driving it
How is the size compared to the old cayenne ?
The new Cayenne has more interior room than the old one, just wait until you see it.
I would go for the S because the Hybrid is more expensive, slower (accel, Vmax), technically more challenging (possible issues) and doesn't provide THE huge fuel saving capability I would expect from such a car. If it is true however that Swiss laws may favor Hybrids, get one. Otherwise, I would stay away from it because it doesn't improve performance.
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
reginos:
Gnil:
And the lettering has to be be deleted....it is probably for the Chinese market or other Easter European ones
The large "PORSCHE" logo on Panamera and Cayenne is part of tradition BTW. Not that this makes it more attractive.
Very old tradition which shouldn't have been revived. 
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
RC:
Gnil:
Can you elaborate ?
I would of been interested in the hybrid too.... as it would be the only way my wife would be ok driving it
How is the size compared to the old cayenne ?
The new Cayenne has more interior room than the old one, just wait until you see it.
I would go for the S because the Hybrid is more expensive, slower (accel, Vmax), technically more challenging (possible issues) and doesn't provide THE huge fuel saving capability I would expect from such a car. If it is true however that Swiss laws may favor Hybrids, get one. Otherwise, I would stay away from it because it doesn't improve performance.
I will check it out next week at the Geneva show and compare it to the Touareg... 
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25.02.2010 16:09:21
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
RC:I don't get it: does Porsche have a seperate design team which messes up the rear on the cars (e.g. Panamera) ?!
I also don't get that huge PORSCHE lettering on the rear, it looks horrible.
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I was thinking the exact same thing!
First the 997.2 rear, then the Panamera, and now the Cayenne???
The front is much better than I expected, they did a great job for a SUV, very Panameraish... but that REAR?
And I can see the rear PORSCHE lettering factory delete option being a very popular one 
Also the interior looks like a winner as well, like in the Panamera.
Overall I think it looks better than the first gen Cayenne did in its day. Very sporty looking which is what the firts gen needed. Looks like they did a good job inspite that rear.
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25.02.2010 16:18:51
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
Carlos from Spain:
I was thinking the exact same thing! First the 997.2 rear, then the Panamera, and now the Cayenne???
The front is much better than I expected, they did a great job for a SUV, very Panameraish... but that REAR?
Don´t forget the Boxster and Cayman models, especially on the former the taillights are the worst modification to me. The pronounciation of curved shapes does neither fit the car´s driving character nor the facelifted front appearance.
Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
RC:
I guess Porsche didn't hear the bell...as we say here in Germany.
If a customer like me buys a BMW instead, they should be very very concerned.
Ha
+1 +1 +1 !
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25.02.2010 16:27:53
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
Actually the PORSCHE lettering on the rear stopped in 1974 with the "G" Series (the one with the US bumpers) and was "revived" with the Panamera in 2009 or 35 years later ....
I agree it's ugly but some emerging markets are requesting it and it is difficult to ignore over 1/4 of your unit sales and certainly MUCH MUCH more of your profits !!!! Money talks.
Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
Thanks for the statistics, very very interesting. 
Biggest surprise for me is actually Latin America.
Do you have something similar seperated by models sold ? (911, Cayenne, Panamera, etc.).
Would be great and very insightful.
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
RC:
Thanks for the statistics, very very interesting.
Biggest surprise for me is actually Latin America.
Do you have something similar seperated by models sold ? (911, Cayenne, Panamera, etc.).
Would be great and very insightful.
Indeed very interesting!
Latin America isnt a surprise, think about its sice - 2000 cars are not much compared to the size.
Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
Gnil:
I would of been interested in the hybrid too.... as it would be the only way my wife would be ok driving it
I will check it out next week at the Geneva show and compare it to the Touareg...
High Gnil.
I have the same problem with my wife
But I just made a comparison on the german configurator between the S and the hybrid and saw something that might be a deal breaker : the hybrid has no Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC), nor the Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus (PTV Plus).
Carlos
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
Lars997:
Enzo II:
Manual
Base V6 wheels
I don't get it. Porsche sells their Premium entry cars recently with the most ugly rims imaginable. Think about the standard rims on the Panamera and Panamera S. And now this here, those are VW rims and not Porsche rims!
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
CarlosF:
: the hybrid has no Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC), nor the Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus (PTV Plus).Carlos
and there it goes.... I mean this is the tribute to a car which is nor Fish nor Meat! This are the dynamic drive options - you want to have them in order to make the car really sporty. And as the Hybrid is already overweighted, it would need those options more as any other model!
The hybrid is still beta - basta!
Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
Lars997:
I just read in the configurator that you can have the Porsche Logo in black for 261,- € extra.... HAHA
how stupid you should be
And for 410,- € extra you can have the Porsche and Cayenne letters in all black
For a piece of plastic which you can have on any other car for 5 Bugs!
I should open a workshop and paint the letters black or red or what ever colour you want at half the price!!!
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
IMO the shape of the rear lights is OK to say the least. BUT the colour is very striking and contrast badly with any bodywork colour. They should offer a "Klarglasoptik" option similar to the 911.
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25.02.2010 17:52:42
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25.02.2010 17:58:58
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
21 more pics on Autobild. Just click the images to see
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/porsche-cayenne-ii-in-genf-2010_1131231.html?bild=20&now=72#mmg
I'm not too convinced, couple of weird design cues in the panels..
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25.02.2010 18:04:02
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25.02.2010 18:25:28
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
intouch1:
the rear looks horrendous....and th big porsche lettering makes it even worse.
sorry, not fan and even more happy bout my x6m choice now.
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Ok, the overall design seems to be ok exept of the rear and the turbo mouth.
But now I feel happy twice with my decisions for the X5M.
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
Don´t like the rear lights either but otherwise it looks ok to me, especially the interior is a huge improvement. Rear valance seems to have no paint just like 03-04 cayennes, cheap. Will there be a GTS or a manual stick option for the S? Will be in the market when they have worked out the bugs, probably MY 2012.
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25.02.2010 23:38:30
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Re: New Cayenne - official data and photos
The original Cayenne was marketed as having serious off-road prowess.
Hs that changed with the new models?
Can one lock the differential?
What's the max clearance, etc?
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