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- easy_rider911
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Oct 22, 2009 5:15:55 PM
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Re: Things to do in your 430
definitely fake, but really funny nonetheless haha.
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Re: Things to do in your 430
Didn't know where to ask this, but here we go... Went the other day for a quick drive in my mate's F430 and pulled over at a petrol station to fill up. I was gobsmacked to see that he put in regular petrol and not premium! When I asked him about it, he told me that premium causes all sorts of problems to the car's ECU. Surely, that cannot be right. F430 owners, please advise!
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Re: Things to do in your 430
REALZEUS:
Didn't know where to ask this, but here we go... Went the other day for a quick drive in my mate's F430 and pulled over at a petrol station to fill up. I was gobsmacked to see that he put in regular petrol and not premium! When I asked him about it, he told me that premium causes all sorts of problems to the car's ECU. Surely, that cannot be right. F430 owners, please advise!
That is nonsense. The car needs premium. The gas entry point reminds the driver as does the manual.
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Re: Things to do in your 430
nberry:
REALZEUS:
Didn't know where to ask this, but here we go... Went the other day for a quick drive in my mate's F430 and pulled over at a petrol station to fill up. I was gobsmacked to see that he put in regular petrol and not premium! When I asked him about it, he told me that premium causes all sorts of problems to the car's ECU. Surely, that cannot be right. F430 owners, please advise!
That is nonsense. The car needs premium. The gas entry point reminds the driver as does the manual.
I thought so, since another 430 owner told me that the car NEEDS premium... The only difference is that in Europe, in contrast to the US, premium is 100 octanes. Could that make any difference?
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Re: Things to do in your 430
REALZEUS:
nberry:
REALZEUS:
Didn't know where to ask this, but here we go... Went the other day for a quick drive in my mate's F430 and pulled over at a petrol station to fill up. I was gobsmacked to see that he put in regular petrol and not premium! When I asked him about it, he told me that premium causes all sorts of problems to the car's ECU. Surely, that cannot be right. F430 owners, please advise!
That is nonsense. The car needs premium. The gas entry point reminds the driver as does the manual.
I thought so, since another 430 owner told me that the car NEEDS premium... The only difference is that in Europe, in contrast to the US, premium is 100 octanes. Could that make any difference?
The car needs 95 octanes, which is called "Super" in Germany for example. It does not need 98 octanes, which is "Super Plus" over here. 
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Re: Things to do in your 430
Thanks Stefan. That is totally different from saying that Super Plus, as you call it in Germany, would cause troubles, right? In the UK, Shell V Power Racing is 100 octanes for example and the owner told me that the car does not like it at all...
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Re: Things to do in your 430
AFAIK, these cars are designed to admit both. While the Super Plus 98 Oct (RON) is recomended by the manufacturer, makers are aware that around the world this is not readily accesible and design the engine for both octanes, 98 and 95.
European 95 Octane (RON) equates I believe to the 90 Octane rating they use in the US, which is dfifferent that the RON rating used in Europe.
The only noticeable difference is a slight peformance increase as well as a slight lower fuel consumption with the Super Plus 98 compared to the Super 95. Myself I always use 98 Super Plus because that is what Porsche recomends for the 997 in its manual (even though you can still use 95 oct) and its what gives the car the best performance. I would not use any rating higher that that either simply because it was not designed for it and may give problems.
Personally I have also noticed that the 98 Oct conserves longer when left sitting like in a barril (like a barril in the garage for the lawn mower, motorbikes, etc), I suppose its due to the additives that they may be better in the 98 Oct 
so I use this Oct for this purspose as well.
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Re: Things to do in your 430
REALZEUS:
Thanks Stefan. That is totally different from saying that Super Plus, as you call it in Germany, would cause troubles, right? In the UK, Shell V Power Racing is 100 octanes for example and the owner told me that the car does not like it at all...
100 octanes won't hurt, but you got no benefit, only less pennies in your pocket. 
Ferrari recommends 95 octanes for the F430, whereas Porsche says 98 octanes. So I guess 95 for the F430 is fine, as 98 for all current Porsche. Newer Ferrari will use 98 as well, but 100 is a total waste of money if you ask me.
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Re: Things to do in your 430
Ben and I put racing fuel I believe 120 octane in his CGT and we did not notice any difference in performance. We took turns driving and could not discern any performance gain. However, it did lighten Ben's wallet considerable. He paid over $20 per gallon when a gallon of premium was around $3.00.
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Re: Things to do in your 430
Hello guys,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the only difference with higher octane gas is that it will take higher compression without detonating by itself (as opposed to being ignited by the spark plug). Considering this (and of course disregarding any extra additive which themselves may have other side benefits), using higher octane than necessary will not give more power.
And from that, you'll also gather that an engine's compression ratio is what will ultimately dictate which octane you must use.
And like Carlos said, engines can handle all octane ratings. I know for Corvettes for example, they will pull ignition timing if it were to detect engine knock (i.e. detonation), so you could use anything from 87 to 100 (US rating) if you want. But only when timing is pulled will you get power loss.
I can only assume all cars have this technology nowadays?
Geoff
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