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May 16, 2010 6:08:21 PM
May 16, 2010 8:06:53 PM
2010 Nurburgring 24-hour result...
Pos. –– Nr. –– Marke –– Lap –– Lap Time
1 –– 25 –– BMW M3 GT2 –– 154 –– 12:17.344
2 –– 43 –– Ferrari F 430 GTC –– 154 –– 9:33.019
3 –– 97 –– Audi R8 LMS –– 153 –– 9:32.691
4 –– 76 –– BMW Z4 GT3 –– 152 –– 10:37.803
5 –– 102 –– Audi R8 LMS –– 152 –– 10:51.149
6 –– 20 –– Porsche GT3 Cup S –– 151 –– 9:27.493
7 –– 26 –– BMW M3 GT2 –– 150 –– 10:52.452
8 –– 18 –– Porsche GT3 Cup S –– 150 –– 10:41.858
9 –– 69 –– BMW Z4 GT3 –– 149 –– 10:04.650
10 –– 35 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 148 –– 10:05.529
11 –– 14 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 147 –– 9:51.098
12 –– 44 –– Nissan Z 33 –– 145 –– 10:15.261
13 –– 11 –– Porsche 911 GT3 RS –– 145 –– 9:56.683 (Chris Harris / HvS / Patrick Simon / Roland Asch)
14 –– 33 –– Porsche GT3 Cup –– 145 –– 10:01.348
15 –– 133 –– Audi TTS –– 144 –– 10:13.279
16 –– 117 –– Volkswagen Scirocco GT24-CNG –– 143 –– 11:21.086
17 –– 9 –– Porsche GT3 R Hybrid –– 142 –– 8:45.243 (Bergmeister / Lietz / Holzer / Ragginger)
18 –– 28 –– Porsche 997 Cup –– 142 –– 11:53.099
19 –– 50 –– Lexus LF-A –– 142 –– 13:47.310
20 –– 142 –– Opel Astra OPC –– 141 –– 11:04.473
21 –– 88 –– Porsche GT3 Cup S –– 141 –– 9:46.524
22 –– 169 –– BMW Z4 Coupe –– 140 –– 14:34.092
23 –– 141 –– Opel Astra OPC –– 140 –– 11:04.216
24 –– 70 –– Audi RS 4 –– 140 –– 10:57.487
25 –– 137 –– Subaru GRB –– 139 –– 10:06.699
26 –– 96 –– BMW M3 GT4 –– 139 –– 11:44.227
27 –– 106 –– BMW E 46 GTR –– 137 –– 13:56.987
28 –– 61 –– Aston Martin Vantage V8 –– 137 –– 11:14.500
29 –– 48 –– Porsche 997 –– 137 –– 11:08.376
30 –– 42 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 137 –– 9:50.002
31 –– 158 –– Honda S 2000 –– 136 –– 10:42.297
32 –– 146 –– VW Golf –– 136 –– 11:40.637
33 –– 120 –– BMW M3 GT4 –– 134 –– 10:38.765
34 –– 37 –– Porsche 996 GT3 Cup –– 134 –– 11:04.931
35 –– 7 –– Aston Martin Rapide –– 134 –– 14:05.952
36 –– 184 –– Audi A3 –– 133 –– 11:16.215
37 –– 139 –– Seat Leon Supercopa –– 132 –– 12:40.116
38 –– 219 –– BMW E36 M3 –– 132 –– 11:43.412
39 –– 148 –– Subaru Impreza –– 132 –– 16:35.743
40 –– 6 –– Aston Martin V12 Vantage –– 132 –– 13:44.272 (Richard Meaden / Porritt / Mathai / Cate)
41 –– 226 –– BMW M3 –– 131 –– 11:28.621
42 –– 63 –– Chevrolet Corvette –– 131 –– 11:31.680
43 –– 82 –– BMW 135 i –– 131 –– 11:43.845
44 –– 232 –– BMW E46 M3 –– 131 –– 11:59.453
45 –– 162 –– Opel Astra GTC –– 131 –– 11:08.708
46 –– 180 –– BMW Z4 3.0 si –– 131 –– 13:58.997
47 –– 59 –– Aston Martin N24 –– 130 –– 12:42.930
48 –– 90 –– BMW M3 E46 –– 130 –– 13:57.437
49 –– 223 –– BMW Z 85 / DU 51 –– 130 –– 11:47.581
50 –– 183 –– Renault Clio III Cup –– 128 –– 14:01.978
51 –– 201 –– Peugeot RC Z –– 128 –– 11:43.605
52 –– 118 –– Volkswagen Scirocco GT24-CNG –– 128 –– 9:32.410
53 –– 213 –– BMW E 90 –– 128 –– 12:51.373
54 –– 122 –– Volvo Heico HS3 Bioethanol –– 128 –– 13:49.709
55 –– 151 –– Renault Clio –– 128 –– 13:54.251
56 –– 23 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 127 –– 12:10.831
57 –– 86 –– BMW Z4 M-Coupe –– 127 –– 10:42.029
58 –– 87 –– Nissan 350 Z –– 127 –– 26:43.568
59 –– 224 –– BMW E 36 M3 –– 127 –– 12:02.121
60 –– 72 –– Lexus IS F –– 127 –– 10:35.443
61 –– 214 –– Mercedes Benz C 230 –– 126 –– 14:10.690
62 –– 2 –– ABT Audi R8 LMS –– 125 –– 8:47.284
63 –– 205 –– BMW E36 318 IS –– 125 –– 14:36.264
64 –– 218 –– BMW E87 130i –– 125 –– 13:44.866
65 –– 237 –– BMW M3 –– 125 –– 10:58.721
66 –– 125 –– Audi TTS –– 125 –– 12:11.127
67 –– 211 –– BMW 320 iS –– 125 –– 11:14.665
68 –– 167 –– Renault Clio Cup –– 125 –– 12:27.391
69 –– 175 –– Alfa Romeo 147 JTD –– 125 –– 11:42.839
70 –– 164 –– Renault Clio RS III –– 125 –– 12:03.041
71 –– 113 –– BMW 130 i –– 125 –– 11:31.319
72 –– 236 –– Porsche Cayman S –– 125 –– 12:42.904
73 –– 126 –– Ford Mondeo –– 125 –– 13:03.178
74 –– 116 –– Volkswagen Scirocco GT24-CNG –– 124 –– 12:09.000
75 –– 235 –– BMW M3 E46 –– 124 –– 13:46.484
76 –– 212 –– BMW 325 i –– 123 –– 13:16.658
77 –– 233 –– Mercedes Benz SLK 350 –– 123 –– 11:40.768
78 –– 80 –– BMW 330 i –– 123 –– 13:17.555
79 –– 206 –– BMW 318 iS –– 123 –– 14:19.905
80 –– 40 –– Porsche 997 RSR –– 122 –– 9:28.976
81 –– 60 –– Aston Martin Vantage V8 –– 122 –– 11:23.215
82 –– 200 –– Peugeot RC Z –– 122 –– 11:44.184
83 –– 119 –– Seat Supercopa –– 121 –– 12:08.039
84 –– 135 –– Audi A3 –– 121 –– 10:00.571
85 –– 244 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 120 –– 10:57.731
86 –– 243 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 120 –– 10:59.547
87 –– 74 –– Aston Martin N24 –– 120 –– 40:42.843
88 –– 41 –– Porsche 997 GT3 Cup –– 120 –– 11:43.873
89 –– 155 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 120 –– 13:50.246
90 –– 215 –– BMW 325 i E90 –– 119 –– 13:29.300
91 –– 193 –– BMW 330d –– 119 –– 11:57.759
92 –– 246 –– Honda Civic Type-R –– 119 –– 11:11.073
93 –– 220 –– BMW Z4 Coupe –– 118 –– 1:28:03.022
94 –– 225 –– BMW E36 M3 –– 118 –– 12:31.904
95 –– 49 –– Audi R8 –– 117 –– 13:14.171
96 –– 85 –– Porsche 911 –– 116 –– 9:39.399
97 –– 153 –– VW Golf III Kitcar –– 115 –– 12:50.687
98 –– 176 –– BMW 120 d –– 115 –– 14:33.735
99 –– 127 –– Ford Focus ST –– 114 –– 13:48.782
100 –– 129 –– BMW 325 i E92 –– 114 –– 11:56.635
May 17, 2010 7:07:36 AM
Here is a VERY interesting article.
www.autoweek.com/article/20100516/ALMS/100519896
So it looks like it was engine failure that brought the Hybrid to a stop.
This is really not good!
May 17, 2010 7:30:53 AM
Spyderidol:
Here is a VERY interesting article.
www.autoweek.com/article/20100516/ALMS/100519896
So it looks like it was engine failure that brought the Hybrid to a stop.
This is really not good!
unless he uses the "blown engine" term in a very general and wide sense
"Form follows function"
reginos:
ResB:
Great result for the GT3 RS though. 13th I think it was.
That's the car co-driven by Chris Harris. Is it a standard road legal GT3 RS?
Yes, the car is pretty much as you can buy it, other than a special seat (required by FIA), a 20l additional fuel tank and 18" wheels with slicks. PASM remained as far as I know and they were using the steel brake as PCCB would not be allowed.
They drove the car on street tires from Stuttgart to the Nürburgring. It even had its license plates on during the race.
Unbelievable result somewhat aided by the failure of faster cars. The drivers said that car was very comfortable to drive.
May 17, 2010 7:35:15 AM
reginos:
Spyderidol:
Here is a VERY interesting article.
www.autoweek.com/article/20100516/ALMS/100519896
So it looks like it was engine failure that brought the Hybrid to a stop.
This is really not good!
unless he uses the "blown engine" term in a very general and wide sense
No, I have heard that it was engine from other sources too.
We will soon find out when Porsche publishes their PR.
May 17, 2010 7:50:47 AM
Confirmation:
After 22 hours and 15 minutes, the leading orange-and-white 911 GT3 R Hybrid retired with engine damage in the Metzgesfeld passage. “I heard a loud noise at the rear of the car and suddenly the power went,” says Porsche works driver Joerg Bergmeister (Germany) describing the abrupt end of all hopes for victory.
Despite a disappointing race, Chairman of the Board at Porsche AG, Michael Macht, who visited the race on Sunday, came to a positive conclusion: “It wasn’t enough for a win, but the Porsche hybrid technology clearly proved its potential at one of the world’s toughest races. We will continue developing this innovative drive concept. That was certainly not the last race for a Porsche hybrid car.”
Wolfgang Dürheimer, Board Member for Research and Development at Porsche AG, gives an outlook to the future: “The 911 GT3 R Hybrid has proven that highest performance and a unique efficiency don’t exclude each other. The vehicle shows the technological path to racing in the future.” - Porsche
May 17, 2010 8:40:23 AM
In this year´s race a significant amount of competitors have suffered from mechanical failures and accidents, especially those numerous GT3s that have usually been sure contenders for the podium. I applaud Porsche for making the entry for the Hybrid and have been confirmed by the car´s competitiveness.
BMW even repaired the 2nd M3 that crashed during the race and finished on 7th place. Aston Martin finished remarkably well with both the Vantage and Rapide which should certainly boost their reputation. Audi, providing a huge number of potential winners, faired comparatively weak with only two R8 LMS on third and fifth position.
Isn´t it ironic that both Hybrid entries so far, the Gumpert Apollo and the GT3 Hybrid, suffered from failures of the proven combustion engine drivetrain? The former suffered from repeated transmission failures, the later from a blown engine that happens rather seldom on the GT3. In both cases, the electrical drivetrains worked without any flaws.
May 17, 2010 1:36:31 PM
May 17, 2010 5:11:38 PM
Spyderidol:
One last thing: It's good to see that Michael Macht actually went to the race!
The politics are interesting........ the best placed Porsche in 6th powered by RS Tuning didn't even get a visit let alone a well done from anyone official at Porsche apparently......
2009 997 GT2 659PS/827NM DIN
May 17, 2010 5:44:29 PM
May 17, 2010 5:53:13 PM
May 17, 2010 6:01:47 PM
TB993tt:
reginos:
Spyderidol:
Sometimes you have to wander what goes through those executive's minds!
Porsche AG are officially and openly totally against Tuners. So the Corporate Rules dictated this distance.
Are Manthey not also a "tuner" ?
There is Manthey Racing the NBR team and Manthey Motors the tuner.
Perhaps, Porsche use this distinction to do an ostrich given the success of the racing team in the last few years.
"Form follows function"
Can we get the Chassis number of the GT3 RS so that we can help PJ out and make sure he doesn't buy it at some point in the future.
May 18, 2010 4:32:04 PM
2010 Nurburgring 24-hour – Chris Harris comments...
“CHRIS HARRIS: REFLECTING ON THE N24 - THE GT3 RS'S FINEST HOUR”
(18 May 2010)
Not having ever taken Acid, I’m not quite sure if my current state-of-mind can be likened to coming down from a trip, but it must be close.
I’m at that junction where Euphoria subsides and the blues begin. There’s now a void where last week an all-consuming project controlled everything.
That’s the strange thing about motorsport: it’s so tightly contained - both temporally and geographically – and the sport itself is so ubiquitous that today’s victory is, for anyone not directly connected with it, yesterday’s vague memory.
I went to the paddock yesterday morning to collect something and it was already mostly deserted. For someone who never wanted Sunday 16th May 2010 to end, it looked too bare; too empty. Twelve hours earlier it was the centre of my universe; swollen, spilling-over with people and machinery. It’s the most exciting paddock in the world – as befits the best race in the world.
Of course you’re going to get a sizeable story in EVO soon, and a video too, so now isn’t the time to drop into minute detail of the event. But I’m just here wondering if my understanding of motorsport might just have altered over the past week.
A few hours before we crossed the line in the Eiffel, Mark Webber won the Monaco Grand Prix – and he deserved the victory. But he did it in a machine that doesn’t look like a car, in a team whose real business is energy drinks, powered by an engine made by a French car company whose everyday wares couldn’t be further removed from Formula One.
Manufacturer Motorsport exists to sell cars – whether by increased exposure or engineering development – and I’m still not convinced, for example, that Mercedes sells any more cars because it is entered into the F1 championship.
Perhaps Porsche won’t sell any more 911s on the back of this past weekend – who knows? But as a demonstration of what works racing should be about - race on Sunday; sell on Monday – it was stunning. More meaningful for me as a car enthusiast than the strange world of double-diffusers, or using the back of your left hand to cover a vent that stalls a rear wing. Perhaps Fduct is actually a metaphor for the state of the sport?
Porsche drove a street car to the world’s toughest race, vastly exceeded any expectations over 150 hard laps of the Nordschleife, and then drove it home again.
It was many things to many people: special, notable, interesting, emotional, testing and, at times, scary. But most of all, it was tangible.
2010-Nurburgring-24hr_Chris-Harris_Article-07
May 18, 2010 6:22:56 PM
Looking forward to the EVO article. However, still no WR and HVS lap time comparison.
May 20, 2010 3:18:53 PM
Please take this with a pinch of salt....but if its true
www.autoblog.com/2010/05/20/report-porsche-918-spyder-to-contest-2011-nurburgring-24/
May 20, 2010 5:42:35 PM
May 20, 2010 5:54:51 PM
I think that because of it's innovative hybrid technology , it will be allowed to race.
Anyway , as I said before, we need to take this with a pinch of salt.
Now check this out: