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Jan 7, 2010 3:49:30 PM
- Italo
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Jan 7, 2010 3:58:13 PM
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Re: New Cayenne Turbo - rumors
palenimbus:
Power output is same as old model? That is surprising that porsche would do that from a marketing point of view.
According to our sources, power output is the same but fuel consumption and weight are lower. I don't have precise figures but real life fuel consumption should be 10% lower, at higher speeds up to 15%. Weight should be 70-120 kg lower, depending on model and options. The new Cayenne is NOT smaller, trunk space should be even bigger.
Another rumor: the Hybrid will be available from day one, rumored power is up to 380 HP (I suppose this is the total power output, base power output should be aprox. 50 HP lower).
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Jan 8, 2010 12:50:48 PM
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Re: New Cayenne Turbo - rumors
charlieboy:
Hi RC, with the trunk being bigger, will there be a 7 seat option ?
As far as I heard, no. The rear seat will however be more "flexible", whatever this means. 
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Re: New Cayenne Turbo - rumors
RC:
charlieboy:
Hi RC, with the trunk being bigger, will there be a 7 seat option ?
As far as I heard, no. The rear seat will however be more "flexible", whatever this means.
I've read somewhere that the rear seat can be moved 16cm and its back can be adjusted by 6 degrees. Possibly an optional extra at cost.
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Jan 8, 2010 4:43:10 PM
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Re: New Cayenne Turbo - rumors
reginos:
I've read somewhere that the rear seat can be moved 16cm and its back can be adjusted by 6 degrees. Possibly an optional extra at cost.
It also states in the actual AMS that the boot will grow from 550 to 670 liters. That's a serious increase to a serious size! and definitely an additional reason to make this car a family car's choice! 
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Re: New Cayenne Turbo - rumors
But OTOH who does racing on public roads at 250km/h to care about a 1 sec (for example) difference in acceleration between cars, at those speeds?
People in their 20s who are usually inclined to care about and do these things cannot generally afford this type of very fast cars anyway.
IMO above the very adequate performance level which most top cars offer, what counts is the feel of the car on the road and the pleasure you get from owning and being inside your chosen car. Of course practicality and money matter too.
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Re: New Cayenne Turbo - rumors
reginos:
But OTOH who does racing on public roads at 250km/h to care about a 1 sec (for example) difference in acceleration between cars, at those speeds?
People in their 20s who are usually inclined to care about and do these things cannot generally afford this type of very fast cars anyway.
IMO above the very adequate performance level which most top cars offer, what counts is the feel of the car on the road and the pleasure you get from owning and being inside your chosen car. Of course practicality and money matter too.
In Germany, EVERY second counts. 
I'm 44 years old but thanks for the compliment ("people in their 20s..."). 
With a car which hits 200 kph in merely 16 seconds, you would be surprised how often you drive at speeds way over 250 kph. I know, I know, we have traffic jams too and there are also some speed limited parts on German Autobahns, mostly in city areas. Still: performance counts.
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Re: New Cayenne Turbo - rumors
artur777:
but with performance package of 600 hp x5m will be faster once again
this will never end
Of course this will never end. Look at the eternal "competition" M3 vs. 911. I remember how I p.ss.d off a 993 driver on the Autobahn when I got one of the first V6 M3 in Bavaria. This car had 286 HP, this was an extreme jump in HP and performance by that time (I think it was 1993 or 1994). The M3 was around 40000 german marks cheaper than the Porsche and had a slightly better performance than the 272 HP 993. Amazing car and very reliable.
Funny enough, I sold it for a 993 Targa (actually wanted a 968 CS but the local Porsche dealer had a killer deal on a 993 Targa, so I couldn't resist) and had my problems to get used to the Targa, almost returned the car to the dealer because compared to the M3, this was an "oldtimer", I hardly was able to drive it fast (NEVER buy a car without testdriving it 
). Very interesting experience by that time but it also showed me why Porsche had trouble to sell cars and almost went broke.
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Re: New Cayenne Turbo - rumors
The M3 Coupe is a competitor for the 997 Carrera S, not the Carrera. Look at the track times (Hockenheim/Nordschleife).
PDK is a treat, I agree but I doubt that it is faster than BMW's DCT.
The M3 system is made by Getrag, the same company who makes the system for the Ferrari 458 Italia. PDK is made by ZF.
Both systems are pretty fast, I like the auto mode with PDK better than with DCT.
Also don't forget the new M3 GTS which competes with the GT3/GT3 RS.
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Re: New Cayenne Turbo - rumors
RC:
Of course this will never end. Look at the eternal "competition" M3 vs. 911. I remember how I p.ss.d off a 993 driver on the Autobahn when I got one of the first V6 M3 in Bavaria. --
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor 997 Turbo, BMW X5 M (03/2010), BMW M3 Cab DKG, Mini Cooper S JCW
You probably mean in-line 6, right? 
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