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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    Well, looks like an Audi now but I can assure you that the next gen Cayenne backlights do NOT look that way.


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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    RC:

    Well, looks like an Audi now but I can assure you that the next gen Cayenne backlights do NOT look that way.

     

    100% my thoughts - look like an Audi now. Smiley


    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    I hope they get rid of the frowny face in the front.   It reminds me of what Ford did in the late 70's/early 80's.

    YUCK!


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    Frowny face.JPGSmiley face Cayenne.JPG


    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    Much better, Misha!!  Thank you, kindly!


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    Smiley  jkseger .  I am afraid that Panamera was the last Porsche with smiley face and next Porsches , starting with new Cayenne , will all have frowny face - look at this 991 rendering . 

    New 911.JPG


    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    looks like I'll be getting a used one then... when I finally get one that is. 


    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    looks like this front end...


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    not sure why my pic is showing.


    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    Misha011:

    Smiley  jkseger .  I am afraid that Panamera was the last Porsche with smiley face and next Porsches , starting with new Cayenne , will all have frowny face - look at this 991 rendering . 

    New 911.JPG

    1. this rendering is wrong, the 991 will look different.

    2. the "smiley" face of the Panamera continues with the Cayenne 


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    2. the "smiley" face of the Panamera continues with the Cayenne

    ... RC , you mean new Cayenne will have face like this 

    Smiley face Cayenne & Panamera.JPGpanamera smiley.jpg

    ... and NOT like this , right ??

    Frowny face.JPG


    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    You'll be surprised. 


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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    can't wait to see the real thing!!!


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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    RC:
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    2. the "smiley" face of the Panamera continues with the Cayenne 

    That is good news! From the pictures, I dind't really like the "dissatisfied" look of that grille.


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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    This time around , I am giving you a new theory - 'Raccoon'    /  hope to be more accurate  than ' cocoon'  &  Panamera

    misha left.jpg


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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    These are the pictures from AMS magazine.Their impression of the rear lights too.

    They state a weight reduction of 180 kgs (39kgs of which comes from the new doors and 10 from wiring!).

    CO2 reduced by 26% and  fuel consumption by 23%.

    V6 = 300PS

    V8 =400PS

    V8 Turbo = 500PS

    Hybrid: 3 liter  Kompressor V6 333PS + 34kW E-Motor = 380PS and 8.2 l/100km  consumption.

    No mention about transmissions in the article.

    According to the article the above "greener"  technology and the more sporty external appearance are also aimed at increasing the social acceptance of the Cayenne model.

    cayenne new.jpg

    cayenne new 003.jpg


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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    The rear is pretty accurate, the front not quite.

    I also doubt the weight reduction of 180 kg but without ANY options, it may be true.

    Look at the Panamera Turbo and its weight with some of the common options. Ouch.

    The power figures aren't all accurate either but close, a powerful Diesel is also planned.

    CO2 output and fuel consumption reduction is pretty accurate.

    Of course Porsche tries to change the social perception of the Cayenne but I'm not sure they will succeed as long as they use the same name again. The roundly shape may "trick" people into viewing the Cayenne as a smaller and less aggressive SUV but I'm not sure how long this perception will work.

    Porsche just got unlucky with Greenpeace and that dumb german car magazine article.

    I'm curious when Greenpeace and/or a car magazine start a campaign against the X6 M but I'm not worried about the X5M, its design is too tame and too unspectacular to get people occupied with it.


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    Can’t understand how Porsche could design the cayenne front such ugly, even if the pics in AMS are not 100% authentic. There was a great similarity to Hanomag in the 50s ...Smiley

    Unbelievable..Smileyhk627.jpg

     


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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    As per above post by reginos , from AMS , turbo will have 4 strips in centre grill - this mule is to be Cayenne or Cayenne S and for the first time I like more 'face'  on lower models .   ( if my 'x-ray' view under the camo is correct )

    misha left 02.JPG


    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    The new Cayenne looks actually very good. It doesn't really look like a Porsche (the Panamera doesn't look that way either) but it looks very special and "fits" the Panamera. The sportier look seems to be reserved for the 911, Boxster and Cayman.


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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    Any idea when official information will be released?


    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    Gdvw05:

    Any idea when official information will be released?


    Should be any day now. I actually expected the press releace late December but I guess it is going to be January.


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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

     RC,

    please give us some details of new Cayenne - I see you know them


    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    I already gave away more than I should.


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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

     when will the press embargo finish

     

    we all wait to see if new Cayenne Turbo will be a competitor to X5/6 M in terms of performance, perception and price (3P's :-)


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    1. price: well...you know who the winner is here

    2. performance: the Turbo is no real match for the X5 M but close (will be different with the Turbo S)

    3. perception: it takes time, I doubt that the public perception is going to be better with the introduction of a new model, on the contrary


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    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

     The new CTT won't be able to match the XM5? Are you sure about that? The current CTT nearly matches the X5M, the next version must be better.


    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

     Turbo S will be a match not Turbo!

    this is a little bit of difference


    Re: 2011 Cayenne with no camo

    Price - I see, Cayenne will be as usual more expensive

    Performance - glad to see that Turbo S will be a match if not Turbo

    Perception - I hope it will change in 3-4 years because Cayenne is an outstanding SUV car really


     
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