SciFrog:
Years later, I still don't get the Cayman...
You'll get it if you reverse the order:
Mid Engined Porsche sports car unbeatable at its price, punching above its weight - Cayman
also available as a convertible - Boxster!! We got confused because the Boxster launched first..
Also, you'll immediately get it if you drive one!!
Put that down to the "brilliance" of the marketing dept! First launch the new 987 Boxster, which they know is fabulous, establish its credentials, and then launch the stiffer, more sorted, slightly higher engine capacity Coupe! But that will cost Sir a premium, since it is more powerful and better to drive than our current mid-engined offering, the Boxster! Then after the dust settles, slam in the 3.4l engine in the Boxster when no one was looking, and laugh all the way to the bank!!
Incidentally, I got caught out by all this marketing coup - I bought the 3.2 987 Boxster in 2006, just as the Cayman was being launched, as I wanted a convertible, and then 6 months into its ownership, I found out that the new versions of the Boxster now come with the same 3.4 engine as the Cayman.
So I agree with you about feeling that it's all a bit contrived.
KresoF1:
Double Porsche Supertest...
Cayman S PDK
Ring 8:17min
Hockenheim 1.14,2min
Boxster S PDK
Ring 8:18min
Hockenheim 1.15,0min
Both cars on street tires.
Did they also try a version with 6-spd manual for comparison? What were the times for the last version of the Box/Cay?
Thanks!
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs). Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550 Maranello
Did they also try a version with 6-spd manual for comparison? What were the times for the last version of the Box/Cay?
Thanks!
That would be most interesting to test: what effect does PDK have on the lap times. Still slightly negative (I would assume) - or already positive
Markus,
Sport Auto tested two examples of Cayman S with PDK already and one example with manual gearbox. All other options were the same: LSD, PASM, SC and 19" wheels.
First example of Cayman S PDK Hockenheim time was 1.13,9min, second one achieved 1.14,2min on slightly different ambinet temperature.
Manual Cayman S achieved 1.14,3min on conditions that were almost the same as on first Cayman S PDK test.
According to Sport Auto on Hockenheim PDK version is from 0.2s-0.5s faster then manual depending on ambient conditions. We can assume that difference on Nordschleife is actually bigger(IMHO PDK is about 5s faster)...
KresoF1:
Markus,
Sport Auto tested two examples of Cayman S with PDK already and one example with manual gearbox. All other options were the same: LSD, PASM, SC and 19" wheels.
First example of Cayman S PDK Hockenheim time was 1.13,9min, second one achieved 1.14,2min on slightly different ambinet temperature.
Manual Cayman S achieved 1.14,3min on conditions that were almost the same as on first Cayman S PDK test.
According to Sport Auto on Hockenheim PDK version is from 0.2s-0.5s faster then manual depending on ambient conditions. We can assume that difference on Nordschleife is actually bigger(IMHO PDK is about 5s faster)...
Kreso, that would actually be good news! If PDK was on the same level (or even slightly more efficient) than manual that would be a major step forward Also, Reginos is right: a less professional driver should be slower without PDK if even SportAuto just matches PDK results with a manual car (or even falls short of that)
reginos:
I would also assume that if the driver is not professional or at least very expert, the difference would be greater in favour of the PDK car.
I agree.
ONUR
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